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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 26-07-2012 16:18
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Smal wrote:
nah, Pate isn't allowed to race GTs anymore. He'd just win them all [/Bushwackers]
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| Bookie |
Posted on 26-07-2012 17:55
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Imagine the train that they could have if they decided to go all in for the mountains in one race.
Thomas
Boasson Hagen
Nordhaug
Henao
Porte
Uran
Brajkovic
Wiggins
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This is seriously scary.
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| alex valceanu |
Posted on 26-07-2012 18:20
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No Rogers ? Is he leaving ?( sry i didnt hear anything about Rogers ) |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-07-2012 19:30
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Even now they have:
Wiggins
froome
Rogers
Porte
Uran
Henao
Sivtsov
Boasson Hagen
Pate
Replace Pate or Boasson Hagen with Brajkovic and cycling is over.
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| emre99 |
Posted on 26-07-2012 19:39
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Even now they have:
Wiggins
froome
Rogers
Porte
Uran
Henao
Sivtsov
Boasson Hagen
Pate
Replace Pate or Boasson Hagen with Brajkovic and cycling is over.
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| lorymuse |
Posted on 26-07-2012 19:43
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Gianluca Brambilla may leave Colnago after his 13th place at giro, he has received some offers from 4 WT team but he can extend his contract with Colnago as well. One of the interested teams could be liquigas.
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 26-07-2012 19:51
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Would love to see a rider like Gianluca Brambilla go to WT team. Liquigas seems like a probable destination with Nibali, and other strong domestique climbers leaving. He did very good in the Giro and should develope nicely as he is only 24 years old. |
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| lorymuse |
Posted on 26-07-2012 19:54
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Montolivo wrote:
Would love to see a rider like Gianluca Brambilla go to WT team. Liquigas seems like a probable destination with Nibali, and other strong domestique climbers leaving. He did very good in the Giro and should develope nicely as he is only 24 years old.
I totally agree!! he's young, strong and with a lot of potential as Nibali will carry with him also Vanotti and another rider that i don't remember, this will be the first sign that Liquigas wants to build a new stronger team |
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 26-07-2012 21:01
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Think the second one is Agnoli, but also Szmyd are leaving. Definitely a good signing for Liquigas if they get him as they would need another GC contender for next year. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 26-07-2012 22:58
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Even now they have:
Wiggins
froome
Rogers
Porte
Uran
Henao
Sivtsov
Boasson Hagen
Pate
Replace Pate or Boasson Hagen with Brajkovic and cycling is over.
I already hate that team |
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 26-07-2012 23:34
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Was sports even leader at Algarve, or did he just get lucky enough to gain some seconds and beat his only competitor, Brad Wiggins?
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 26-07-2012 23:36
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Teddy The Creator wrote:
Was sports even leader at Algarve, or did he just get lucky enough to gain some seconds and beat his only competitor, Brad Wiggins?
Not too sure but i think Wiggins said the team supported Porte in the race |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 26-07-2012 23:36
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Teddy The Creator wrote:
Was sports even leader at Algarve, or did he just get lucky enough to gain some seconds and beat his only competitor, Brad Wiggins?
Phone auto-correct, I guess?
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| Smal |
Posted on 27-07-2012 00:24
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It's his new nickname  .
From what I remember Porte wasn't initially given leadership for Algarve, but they switched leadership duties to him during the race because he must've gotten himself into a better position to win somehow. Could've remembered it entirely wrong however. |
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 27-07-2012 00:30
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cio93 wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Was sports even leader at Algarve, or did he just get lucky enough to gain some seconds and beat his only competitor, Brad Wiggins?
Phone auto-correct, I guess?
You''re onto it. Richie "Sports" Porte.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 27-07-2012 10:13
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
That would be fantastic move for Brajkovic. Sky is excatly the team he needs to become great. Would be great signing for Sky as they could turn him into proper GC conteder.
Appollonio leaving was obvious, didn't get chances at bigger races - and doesn't produce at the smaller ones too. Sky saw Appo 2 years ago as much bigger talent that he is ( looking so far ) . AG2R is a good move for him.
You've said this about everyone who has been even remotely tied to Sky. There is no way they could turn him into a GT contender because he wouldn't get leadership or even freedom to ride for himself.
Same was said about Porte. Why would he go to Sky ? He wouln't have any chances to lead in races..blahblahblah... However Porte wasn't as big name as Janez is - but going to Sky can help him.
Brajkovic in 2010 was seen as one of best climbing talents there is. Now not so He went to Astana as he would lead in more races - but he didn't improve one inch from 2010 looking at 2012 in his climbing skills...
Going to Sky can be good choice for him - especially rider like Brajkovic.
Going to a smaller team where he'll lead in more races is not always the best option for a rider - especially for Brajkovic in my view.
Yeah, I meant Rohan Denis
Yeah, Hunt should be retiring this year on next. Likely to leave Sky too and possibly join Endura or some other British team to end his career.
You really just want everyone to join Sky. Now please, tell me where Porte has had leadership with Sky.
And you really hate Sky 
He was designed to lead at Algarve and he did. Wiggins worked for him there Teddy before the final climb and Sky went all the way to help Porte win.
However you're missing the point here baseballlover - Porte came to Sky as decent climber but now improved a lot. He said he will want to lead at Giro in 2013 and so tjhis year was good beginning for him at Sky. He's improved climber and can go on and improve further.
Brajkovic didn't improve his climbing level from 2010 really. At Sky he will very likely do and improve as a cyclist as a whole. If he will show how good he is - he will get chances to lead but at Sky I am sure he will improve - whereas at Astana 2012 I didn't see much improvment from his 2010 season.
For Brajkovic it's no about leading the races - but improving his climbing for now so one day he can challenge for GT's and win them - back few years ago people talked about him winning a GT. Now... not so Maybe Sky is a team that can lead him and improve him as a cyclist, something that Astana or other teams coudln't quite do.
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 27-07-2012 10:23
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I see what you're getting at about Porte, he was a so-so climber and a strong time-triallist, and with the "advanced methods" () of Sky he became a stronger climber.
I'm super happy he's at Sky since he's my favourite rider and if he can lead them at 2013 Giro with the type of form he showed in Le Tour then he can get a great result.
I think though, that Brajkovic has just about reached his limit as a climber. If he led a team-like Radioshack ( - Schlecks obvs) then he can ride out his career getting consistent top-10 results at GTs and maybe a podium at Giro/Vuelta. If he joins Sky, he may improve via "advanced methods" but if he doesn't, than he'll waste years working for the more experienced Sky members.
Improvement isn't the issue, the issue is getting a spot on the team.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 27-07-2012 10:39
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Teddy The Creator wrote:
I see what you're getting at about Porte, he was a so-so climber and a strong time-triallist, and with the "advanced methods" ( ) of Sky he became a stronger climber.
I'm super happy he's at Sky since he's my favourite rider and if he can lead them at 2013 Giro with the type of form he showed in Le Tour then he can get a great result.
I think though, that Brajkovic has just about reached his limit as a climber. If he led a team-like Radioshack ( - Schlecks obvs) then he can ride out his career getting consistent top-10 results at GTs and maybe a podium at Giro/Vuelta. If he joins Sky, he may improve via "advanced methods" but if he doesn't, than he'll waste years working for the more experienced Sky members.
Improvement isn't the issue, the issue is getting a spot on the team.
Disagreed. If Rogers can improve at Sky - so will Janez.
*cue baseballlover and others talking about this sentance and training methods*
If he improves - he will lead in races. If he won't, he will be a domestique - but a very good one. However if he will improve ( and he will ) - he will get those opportunities.
In other teams like Astana - he lead in many races. But he never was really contedning for big places, just some Top 10's who people will fogert in few years. Is that really great ?
Not better try something new wchich if suceeds can make him much better cyclist then he is now ?
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 27-07-2012 10:49
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It is easy. You are shite GC rider? Go to Sky and you will win one in a few years, because other teams dont know how to cycle or prepare for the race 
Alakagom wrote:
Not better try something new wchich if suceeds can make him much better cyclist then he is now ?
Something new, yeahh.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 27-07-2012 10:51
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| litllemagnum |
Posted on 27-07-2012 11:14
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Alakagom wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
I see what you're getting at about Porte, he was a so-so climber and a strong time-triallist, and with the "advanced methods" ( ) of Sky he became a stronger climber.
I'm super happy he's at Sky since he's my favourite rider and if he can lead them at 2013 Giro with the type of form he showed in Le Tour then he can get a great result.
I think though, that Brajkovic has just about reached his limit as a climber. If he led a team-like Radioshack ( - Schlecks obvs) then he can ride out his career getting consistent top-10 results at GTs and maybe a podium at Giro/Vuelta. If he joins Sky, he may improve via "advanced methods" but if he doesn't, than he'll waste years working for the more experienced Sky members.
Improvement isn't the issue, the issue is getting a spot on the team.
Disagreed. If Rogers can improve at Sky - so will Janez.
*cue baseballlover and others talking about this sentance and training methods*
If he improves - he will lead in races. If he won't, he will be a domestique - but a very good one. However if he will improve ( and he will ) - he will get those opportunities.
In other teams like Astana - he lead in many races. But he never was really contedning for big places, just some Top 10's who people will fogert in few years. Is that really great ?
Not better try something new wchich if suceeds can make him much better cyclist then he is now ?
If Contador would go to Sky, do you think he'll improve? Brajkovic 'failed' to improve his climbing skills in two years according to you. Then you say he will improve at Sky(if he goes there). Does that mean the other teams are stupid and don't know how to train their riders? Or that Brajkovic reached his limit and can't improve anymore in a natural way? I'm not saying that if he goes to Sky and improves that he's doping by the way.
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