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EPIC - Offseason RENEWALS and DRAFT
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 22-12-2014 22:22
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I shall soon see whether or not my transfer plans are remotely possible with the renewals and budget available to me.
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 22-12-2014 22:22
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No TMM I think he wanted you to drop Pinot, just don't renew his contract (or at least I want you to do that). 
"What done is, is one." - Benji Naesen
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 22-12-2014 22:31
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SERIOUS POST. Zero jokes included. All following content is seriously meant and should be treated as such.
@Silvio - I don't know what your problem is with me. If it's that serious that you feel compelled to make multiple passive-agressive posts about it please drop me a PM. I also feel that if Cycleman feels hurt by me he can always PM me himself or just say so somewhere.
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 22-12-2014 22:33
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passive-aggressive
zero jokes included, but what does this mean?
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 22-12-2014 22:35
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Not wanting to get too far away from actual Off-Season discussion:
"Passive-aggressive behavior is the indirect expression of hostility"
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 22-12-2014 22:40
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Not wanting to get too far away from actual Off-Season discussion:
"Passive-aggressive behavior is the indirect expression of hostility"
ah, ok.
"What done is, is one." - Benji Naesen
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| Smowz |
Posted on 23-12-2014 08:01
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Don't know where to put this:
Is it possible for my own team (Caja Rural) to sign my own rider (Robert Plant)?
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 23-12-2014 08:12
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Edit: Realised you meant custom rider. In which case it is not possible.
Edited by Luis Leon Sanchez on 23-12-2014 08:17
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| The Hobbit |
Posted on 23-12-2014 08:12
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Smowz wrote:
Don't know where to put this:
Is it possible for my own team (Caja Rural) to sign my own rider (Robert Plant)?
No that is not allowed. Sorry  |
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| Cycleman123 |
Posted on 23-12-2014 08:18
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Not allowed
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 23-12-2014 09:32
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Here are the budgets for the renewals. Important: this is excluding small punishments for the natural progress round and compensations for removed doper riders. I'll add those once we can close that chapter, but the difference won't be more then 10000 either way.
And Drapac doesn't need to do renewals, as this is their first year.
Should the budget be insufficient for too many of you, I might add more money at some point during the transfers.
| 1 | Sky | 600000 | | 2 | Movistar | 550000 | | 3 | Belkin | 510000 | | 4 | BMC | 475000 | | 5 | Omega Pharma | 445000 | | 6 | Astana | 415000 | | 7 | Cannondale | 390000 | | 8 | RadioShack | 365000 | | 9 | Katusha | 340000 | | 10 | Europcar | 315000 | | 11 | Garmin | 295000 | | 12 | Saxo-Tinkoff | 275000 | | 13 | Lotto | 255000 | | 14 | Argos | 235000 | | 15 | Orica-GreenEdge | 215000 | | 16 | Euskaltel | 200000 | | 17 | AG2R | 125000 | | 18 | Champion System | 120000 | | 19 | Androni | 115000 | | 20 | Vacansoleil | 110000 | | 21 | Lampre | 105000 | | 22 | NetApp | 100000 | | 23 | MTN | 95000 | | 24 | FDJ | 90000 | | 25 | Cofidis | 85000 | | 26 | Bardiani | 82000 | | 27 | Colombia | 79000 | | 28 | Topsport | 76000 | | 29 | Crelan | 73000 | | 30 | Bretagne | 70000 | | 31 | IAM | 68000 | | 32 | Vini Fantini | 67000 | | 33 | CCC | 66000 | | 34 | RusVelo | 65000 | | 35 | UHC | 64000 | | 36 | Accent Jobs | 63000 | | 37 | Novo Nordisk | 62000 | | 38 | Sojasun | 61000 | | 39 | Caja Rural | 60000 | | | | | 40 | Drapac | 40000 |
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 23-12-2014 09:35
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Re-signing riders
First of all, this is excluding custom riders, they have no part in this.
There are 3 categories of riders: Normal riders - max stat up to 77 (excluding fighter and downhill as usual), Stars - max stat up to 79 and Superstars - highest stat 80 or higher. The price to re-sign those riders will be different.
Furthermore, Superstar clashes like Valverde and Quintana will need to be addressed. I will give you their opinions and you will have to send me a reply to explain their schedule so that they both can be happy. If I’m not convinced, one of the riders will leave the team. The proposed schedule must of course be followed.
An example can be that a heavily upgraded Evans wants to lead le Tour, while Van Garderen want to lead a GT as well. BMC could then reply that Van Garderen will do Giro/Vuelta and Evans would get Tour leadership, and both riders would be happy and stay.
All normal riders not re-signed in this round, will be available for drafting. All stars or superstars not signed will have to be signed with free agency.
Now, for the renewing, I want you to make a neat table like this one.
| Rider list (A-Z) | Stats above 77 | Renewal fee | | Michael Jordan | ACC 78, SPR 79, Hill 79 | 10000000 | | Javale McGee | none | 200000 | | Bill Russell | MO 82 | 5000000 |
Step 1: List all your riders in the first column alphabeticaly by last name. Don't get the custom riders in, but do include all others, whether you want to re-sign them or not.
Step 2: List all their stats above 77 in the second column, but as said above Downhill and Fighter don't count. If a stat is 80 or higher (superstar), I want you to bold it as well. If there are no stats above 77, just write "none". Remember that the last upgrades round are counting here, don't forget any stats or suffer punishments!
Step 3: Count out how much each rider is and put that number in column 3. If you're using excel (which I recommend), you can put a =sum-formula at the bottom to count out the total for you. If not, you will have to add it manualy. Make sure you don't go over your budget!
The fee to re-sign a rider is calculated as follows:
- Normal rider costs 5000 for a WT team and 2000 for a CT team. However, for the CT teams, should he have a stat of 76 or 77, he's WT material and you'll have to pay 5000 as well.
- If your rider is above 77 with one of his main stats (MOUNTAIN, HILL, COBBLE, SPRINT, TT and RECOVERY) it will cost you extra for each of those stats, this is for both WT and CT.
| 78 | 10000 | | 79 | 20000 | | 80 | 40000 | | 81 | 60000 | | 82 | 80000 | | 83 | 100000 | | 84 | 140000 | | 85 | 200000 |
However, you should also look at how many stats in total (minus fighter and downhill) are above 77, and multiply that total with 1,x (x being the number of stats above 77). A rider cannot cost more then 200000 though.
I know this isn't easy to understand, so I'll add a few examples from Belkin.
- Luis Leon Sanchez, we all love him. He's 80 downhill, 84 fighter, but otherwise pretty useless. Luckily for me, those 2 stats don't count or he would've been a very expensive rider. He has no other stats above 77, so he's 5000 for me as a World Tour team.
- Jack Bobridge, what's up mate? No high stats for you, eh mate? You'll be 5000 as well.
- Wilco Kelderman, I gave him 78 Mountain in the last progress round, so that will cost me 10000. Just one stat over 77, so x 1,1 that's 11000.
- Bauke Mollema I took his Mountain and Hill stats up to 79, so that's 2x 20000. But since that makes 2 stats above 77, I will also have to use the multiplier. 40000 x 1,2 = 48000
- Mark Renshaw, no major stat above 77, but he does has a 78 ACC. That means it's 5000 x 1,1 = 5500 for you mate!
- Sep Vanmarcke, another one I upgraded to an increased cost. Natural progress got him to 80 Cobble, making him a Superstar (I should bold that stat when putting him in my table!), but he also has 79 Stamina. So 40000 for him initialy, but I have to multiply it by 1,2 because of his 2 stats over 77, so he costs 48000.
If you don't want to extend a rider's contract, just put 0 in Column 3.
You can also use the WAIT rule. Type "WAIT" if you lack budget to re-sign a rider, but want to sign him later on with money you earn in the transfer period. You can only do that with 1 rider and you will have to pay him 10% more.
Now, get the neat table in this thread.
As per usual, feel free to ask questions, but violations of the rules will be punished
Edited by Ollfardh on 23-12-2014 10:40
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Cycleman123 |
Posted on 23-12-2014 09:45
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Ffs  How long do we have?
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| jaxika |
Posted on 23-12-2014 09:49
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If Boasson Hagen have 79 in PRL and 78 in SP, the SP stat count for the renewals, right? |
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| jaxika |
Posted on 23-12-2014 09:50
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Cycleman123 wrote:
Ffs How long do we have?
Its simple as i started to make, but the question is the budget will be enough? |
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| jaxika |
Posted on 23-12-2014 09:54
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OMG, renewing Froome cost 208,000, thats more then a 1/3 of my budget .... |
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| The Hobbit |
Posted on 23-12-2014 09:58
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Bardiani Renewals
| Rider Name | Stats above 77 | Renewal Fee | | Filippo Baggio | none | 2000 | | Alfredo Balloni | none | 2000 | | Enrico Barbin | none | 2000 | | Enrico Battaglin | none (world tour standard) | 5000 | | Nicola Boem | none | 2000 | | Francesco Bongiorno | none | 2000 | | Marco Canola | none | 2000 | | Sonny Colbrelli | none | 2000 | | Marco Coledan | none | 2000 | | Donato de Ieso | none | 2000 | | Christian Delle Stelle | none | 2000 | | Andrea di Corrado | none | 2000 | | Filippo Fortin | none | 2000 | | Stefano Locatelli | none | 2000 | | Sacha Modolo | none (world tour standard) | 5000 | | Davide Mucelli | none | 2000 | | Angelo Pagani | none | 2000 | | Andrea Pasqualon | none | 2000 | | Stefano Pirazzi | none | 2000 | | Antonio Santoro | none | 2000 | | Edoardo Zardini | none | 2000 | | Total Spending | | 48000 |
I have spent 48000, so I have 34000 left to spend. That was easy for me, I hope it is all correct! Just to confirm, if we want to sell someone, they have to be renewed right?
Edited by The Hobbit on 23-12-2014 10:00
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 23-12-2014 10:07
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That looks quite good on first sight, master Hobbit. And yes, if you don't re-sign a rider, you can't do any business with them, they will go Free Agent.
Deadline with the holidays coming up.. Does end of the year seem reasonable?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 23-12-2014 10:12
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jaxika wrote:
If Boasson Hagen have 79 in PRL and 78 in SP, the SP stat count for the renewals, right?
Yes, but you have to count the prologue as well for the multiplier.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| jaxika |
Posted on 23-12-2014 10:12
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jaxika wrote:
OMG, renewing Froome cost 208,000, thats more then a 1/3 of my budget ....
I calmed when seeing Cavendish in 240,000 |
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