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TdF'13 Stage 20 - Annecy to Annecy-Semnoz (July 20)
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 19:43
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Yeah. Schleck waited for Monfort. 
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 20-07-2013 19:52
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XxMillad24Xx wrote:
Andy never cracked on that last climb, Maxime Monfort tweeted that he had a bad day and Andy waited to help him up the climb.
Nice gesture also its the last day and last climb so its not like it matters if your 16 or 26 at this point. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:10
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Nice words by Rodriguez about the luck you need in GTS
The 34-year-old believes that lady luck has been on his side for the last few days. "I struggled in the first week, Mollema is ill this week. Sometimes you need luck," says RodrÃguez. "Because you can crash or like when I was the leader in the 2011 Giro and I was ill and I ended up finishing outside of the podium."
Yet somehow, the biggest champions never do have bad luck actually? |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:16
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ruben wrote:
Yet somehow, the biggest champions never do have bad luck actually?
Armstrong at RadioShack wasn't very lucky
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| Ybodonk |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:17
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Iso and Aquarius, i just read your posts on page 23 (i think).
You mention data from Wiggins and especially Armstrong bloodvalues - the B.P.
Would you be so kind to provide the links? I would love to read the analysis etc for this.
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| johnnyjur |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:17
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Okey, I have this frien of mine who really looooves Purito, and says he's the most offensive and aggresive rider ever. I always try to calm him down and say that he's not that offensive as he thinks he is. But then he wants me to come with arguments, and I only talk about wheelsucking etc. And he's not really convinced.
Can someone help me with some arguments, and examples so I can make this guy shut up about how fantastic Purito is?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:21
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johnnyjur wrote:
Okey, I have this frien of mine who really looooves Purito, and says he's the most offensive and aggresive rider ever. I always try to calm him down and say that he's not that offensive as he thinks he is. But then he wants me to come with arguments, and I only talk about wheelsucking etc. And he's not really convinced.
Can someone help me with some arguments, and examples so I can make this guy shut up about how fantastic Purito is?
Purito really wheelsucked today...
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:26
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johnnyjur wrote:
Okey, I have this frien of mine who really looooves Purito, and says he's the most offensive and aggresive rider ever. I always try to calm him down and say that he's not that offensive as he thinks he is. But then he wants me to come with arguments, and I only talk about wheelsucking etc. And he's not really convinced.
Can someone help me with some arguments, and examples so I can make this guy shut up about how fantastic Purito is?
tell him about Purito's amazing amount of GT wins 
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| Rin |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:31
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Ask him if he knows Durand or (GT GC able rider) Vinokourov if not there you have it
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:31
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That little weakness from Froome.exe last few days make me think a bit. What if he's clean? Would be great for cycling. But then he gone full retard at the begining. I just don't know what to think. Do you think Froome.exe delibrately slowed down these last few days in attempt to make it legit. Or hes just was ridiculously good when guys like Purito and Quintana struggled 1st week?
Quintana lost 3 mins in that flat TT to Mont Saint-Michel and 1 min in that hilly time-trial. So Quintana and Froome.exe pretty even in the mountains even though Quintana looks like a natural talent whereas
Froome's.exe full on retard acceleration don't look natural at all.
What do you think?
I really enjoyed this tour even though Froomestrong dominated it comprehensively.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:39
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Without the TTT and TT's, Froome would only have beaten Quintana by 19 seconds. If he was really suffering at the end of week 3 rather than just easing off then it puts it into a new perspective. |
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:41
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
(...) whereas
Froome's.exe full on retard acceleration don't look natural at all.
In Danish TV2 they had André Steensen in the studio today. He said that Froome was racing/attacking in that style back in the Barloworld days as well so that's just how he rides
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| masch20 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:42
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
That little weakness from Froome.exe last few days make me think a bit. What if he's clean? Would be great for cycling. But then he gone full retard at the begining. I just don't know what to think. Do you think Froome.exe delibrately slowed down these last few days in attempt to make it legit. Or hes just was ridiculously good when guys like Purito and Quintana struggled 1st week?
Quintana lost 3 mins in that flat TT to Mont Saint-Michel and 1 min in that hilly time-trial. So Quintana and Froome.exe pretty even in the mountains even though Quintana looks like a natural talent whereas
Froome's.exe full on retard acceleration don't look natural at all.
What do you think?
I really enjoyed this tour even though Froomestrong dominated it comprehensively.
That's enough for my essay
i do think that all those attacks on flat stages and downhills took something out of Froome and he suffered at the end,was it intentional that he dropped?i dont know but i hope it wasnt!
Still, even with the huge gap between first and second TDF was really entertaining! |
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:47
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Quintana is an equal in climbing, and I think slightly better 3-week recuperation. Which is logical to his size (+ in climbing) and being born and raised in colombia at high altitude (+recup)
But Froome's ITT is on a whole other level... so unless there is a Tour somewhere in the future where they ride no ITT's. It will be almost impossible for Quintana to beat Froome |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:50
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jph27 wrote:
Without the TTT and TT's, Froome would only have beaten Quintana by 19 seconds. If he was really suffering at the end of week 3 rather than just easing off then it puts it into a new perspective.
If you could put it that way, but you cant.
Froome and Sky didn't see Quintana as a threat, no one did before it happened and now, now Quintana has to contend with in any race he goes for, that he is a favorite and despite his 40year old appearance he is only 23 and what does such a huge pressure do to a young rider.
And he can also thank his star that Saxobank didn´t see him as a threat either, before it was to late and there couldn´t be done anything.
Because Quintana isent good on flat´s and medium mountains, his skill is right now the big mountains. |
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| welker3257 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:53
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Jacdk wrote:
jph27 wrote:
Without the TTT and TT's, Froome would only have beaten Quintana by 19 seconds. If he was really suffering at the end of week 3 rather than just easing off then it puts it into a new perspective.
If you could put it that way, but you cant.
Froome and Sky didn't see Quintana as a threat, no one did before it happened and now, now Quintana has to contend with in any race he goes for, that he is a favorite and despite his 40year old appearance he is only 23 and what does such a huge pressure do to a young rider.
And he can also thank his star that Saxobank didn´t see him as a threat either, before it was to late and there couldn´t be done anything.
Because Quintana isent good on flat´s and medium mountains, his skill is right now the big mountains.
I definiltly disagree with that. He won the Tour of the Basque Country which is 100% Medium Mountains, and he won the race because of his Time Trialing
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| jph27 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 20:59
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Quintana is better in medium mountains than you think. As for TTs, he is a second year pro after all and he isn't exactly awful. And his 19 seconds loss came through summit finishes in the high mountains, not the medium mountains. |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 20-07-2013 21:00
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welker3257 wrote:
I definiltly disagree with that. He won the Tour of the Basque Country which is 100% Medium Mountains, and he won the race because of his Time Trialing
Then the questions is why so much time lost to the others in the GC? and why couldn´t he with his strength keep a status quo on a flat stretch before another climb, it wasn´t even that long.
Quintana is good in the mountains , probably right now the worlds top 3 , but on the flat and TT and even on the mountain TT , he was left far behind the others. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 20-07-2013 21:02
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welker3257 wrote:
Jacdk wrote:
jph27 wrote:
Without the TTT and TT's, Froome would only have beaten Quintana by 19 seconds. If he was really suffering at the end of week 3 rather than just easing off then it puts it into a new perspective.
If you could put it that way, but you cant.
Froome and Sky didn't see Quintana as a threat, no one did before it happened and now, now Quintana has to contend with in any race he goes for, that he is a favorite and despite his 40year old appearance he is only 23 and what does such a huge pressure do to a young rider.
And he can also thank his star that Saxobank didn´t see him as a threat either, before it was to late and there couldn´t be done anything.
Because Quintana isent good on flat´s and medium mountains, his skill is right now the big mountains.
I definiltly disagree with that. He won the Tour of the Basque Country which is 100% Medium Mountains, and he won the race because of his Time Trialing
While true, that TT was very hilly, it was very technical and it was suited to Quintana. If it was a flat TT, he would have struggled.
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 20-07-2013 21:03
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jph27 wrote:
Quintana is better in medium mountains than you think. As for TTs, he is a second year pro after all and he isn't exactly awful. And his 19 seconds loss came through summit finishes in the high mountains, not the medium mountains.
And you wont hear me disagree that in the future he is a gC winner, but talking right now about him being 2-5-20sec behind Froome is insane, because noone saw this kid as a threat before the mountains and even there he was still just there to help Valverde. until Valverde lost those mins.
So guessing how and what place he would have had , is just stupid. |
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