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La Vuelta 2013 - Week One (24th-30th August)
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| coutas98 |
Posted on 26-08-2013 17:32
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Nin1388 wrote:
Hi guys, sorry. But I don't know why people are outraged with Horner winning ? Sorry I could not see today's stage.
Because he's old and people say he's doped. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-08-2013 17:33
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Nin1388 wrote:
Hi guys, sorry. But I don't know why people are outraged with Horner winning ? Sorry I could not see today's stage.
Because he's an obvious doper and not a nice personality either...
Well, I don't mind that much myself, it gives my Velogames team some nice points 
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 26-08-2013 17:40
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coutas98 wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
Hi guys, sorry. But I don't know why people are outraged with Horner winning ? Sorry I could not see today's stage.
Because he's old and people say he's doped.
What? that has nothing to do with it  |
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| Nin1388 |
Posted on 26-08-2013 17:41
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I have not seen today's stage but Horner has not raced much either, so I guess he must be fresher than others. But as you'll say he is very notorious, but will a team or cyclists take risk in current scenario. Anyway for sports sake, I hope he is not. |
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| Mwuhi |
Posted on 26-08-2013 17:44
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I really like it that Horner won, didn't expected that. So it makes the race more unexpactable. Which I ennoy. Love it that it are this much climb-finishes.
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| coutas98 |
Posted on 26-08-2013 17:46
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Ian Butler wrote:
coutas98 wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
Hi guys, sorry. But I don't know why people are outraged with Horner winning ? Sorry I could not see today's stage.
Because he's old and people say he's doped.
What? that has nothing to do with it
It actually has. If he was 5/10 years younger half the people who say he's bad news wouldn't. But of course, he's got the character. |
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| b3n3v3nt3 |
Posted on 26-08-2013 17:56
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Wow, now that's a surprise. I wasn't expecting that at all. The oldest guy on La Vuelta beating everyone else and wear the leader jersey.
I supose the next days will be for the fastest guys. |
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 26-08-2013 17:57
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coutas98 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
coutas98 wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
Hi guys, sorry. But I don't know why people are outraged with Horner winning ? Sorry I could not see today's stage.
Because he's old and people say he's doped.
What? that has nothing to do with it
It actually has. If he was 5/10 years younger half the people who say he's bad news wouldn't. But of course, he's got the character.
Not really considering he would still have support Lance to this day his age has nothing to do with anything.
EDIT: The interview https://blogs.bettor.com/Chris-Horner-...se-a163187
Edited by jt1109 on 26-08-2013 17:59
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 26-08-2013 18:03
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Chris Horner win is monumental. It gives us all hope that when Riccardo Riccò comes back, he can win the Giro he deserves!  
Btw, awesome photo from 1997
Edited by Alakagom on 26-08-2013 18:05
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| coutas98 |
Posted on 26-08-2013 18:07
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jt1109 wrote:
coutas98 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
coutas98 wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
Hi guys, sorry. But I don't know why people are outraged with Horner winning ? Sorry I could not see today's stage.
Because he's old and people say he's doped.
What? that has nothing to do with it
It actually has. If he was 5/10 years younger half the people who say he's bad news wouldn't. But of course, he's got the character.
Not really considering he would still have support Lance to this day his age has nothing to do with anything.
EDIT: The interview https://blogs.bettor.com/Chris-Horner-...se-a163187
OK, but i'm just saying what people say. I truly believe Horner isn't doped, because if he was, i think it would be discovered long ago. |
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| ryant |
Posted on 26-08-2013 18:09
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Like Armstrong? -_-
 John St Ledger in Team Bunzl-Centrica and Team U25Red Bull Driver in RFactor
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| b3n3v3nt3 |
Posted on 26-08-2013 18:10
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And maybe Radioshack will bet on their Sports Director, José Azevedo, to ride Le Tour next year, I mean, he's still a bit younger than Horner  |
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| pcm2009fan |
Posted on 26-08-2013 18:11
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Alakagom wrote:
Chris Horner win is monumental. It gives us all hope that when Riccardo Riccò comes back, he can win the Giro he deserves!
I would cheer the fuck out of Ricco, him winning the 2024 giro would be genuinely awesome imo
I mean it's possible, he's even got a contract in place...
https://www.atwistedspoke.com/androni-...-for-2024/ |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-08-2013 18:15
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pcm2009fan wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Chris Horner win is monumental. It gives us all hope that when Riccardo Riccò comes back, he can win the Giro he deserves!
I would cheer the fuck out of Ricco, him winning the 2024 giro would be genuinely awesome imo
I mean it's possible, he's even got a contract in place...
https://www.atwistedspoke.com/androni-...-for-2024/
Oh wow, that'd really be awesome, even though he's a doper...
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| coutas98 |
Posted on 26-08-2013 18:22
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ryant wrote:
Like Armstrong? -_-
Man, I believe that a lot of people witnessed Armstrong doping or failing a doping test. I mean, A LOT. The thing is that they covered the whole thing up. |
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| coutas98 |
Posted on 26-08-2013 18:23
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b3n3v3nt3 wrote:
And maybe Radioshack will bet on their Sports Director, José Azevedo, to ride Le Tour next year, I mean, he's still a bit younger than Horner
I bet he would make a hell of a race. If the UCI awarded wins for the Tour ater Armstrong's DQ, Azevedo could win 2. That would be big for PORTUGAL!!! |
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 26-08-2013 18:24
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Disliking Horner for doping is pretty retarded if you're at the same time rooting for Valverde/Rodriguez/Nibali/... imo.
Dislike him for his personality, rider-style, whatever... |
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| coutas98 |
Posted on 26-08-2013 18:37
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fosforgasXIII wrote:
Disliking Horner for doping is pretty retarded if you're at the same time rooting for Valverde/Rodriguez/Nibali/... imo.
Dislike him for his personality, rider-style, whatever...
I don't dislike Horner for anything... I was just saying what people said to me, that he was the most obvious doper in the peloton.
Edited by coutas98 on 26-08-2013 18:37
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| Malkael |
Posted on 26-08-2013 18:37
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Stage 4 - Lalin to Fisterra (189 KM)
A journey to “The End of the Earth” beckons for the peloton, or so the Romans would have had us believe. As La Vuelta a Espana continues to showcase the autonomous region of Galicia. The peloton will cycle 189km over rough terrain from the town of Lalin to the coastal town of Fisterra. Whilst Stage 4's finish may be kinder to the sprinters, there are a few obstacles which could see them spat out the back door.
On the bright side for the peloton, the weather should be favourable towards them for the majority of the stage. With the wind predicted to be relatively light until the peloton once again reach the coastal roads with roughly 40km remaining to the finish line. Once again the winds are predicted to arrive from a North-Easterly direction. Which should see the peloton cycle in to a nominal headwind once they reach the coast, until they change direction approaching the finish and receive a nominal tailwind.
Viewers of the 2012 Vuelta a Espana should be familiar with the ascent of the Mirador de Ézaro, it was utilised as a summit finish for Stage 12. Whilst the stage shall not be finishing upon the steep slopes of the Mirador de Ézaro today, the fact it lies just 34km from the finish could cause some trouble. Despite being just 1800m in length, an elevation gain of 255m within such a short distance results in gradients of above 10%, at an official average gradient of 13.1%.
Understandably, especially if ridden at a fierce tempo, the Mirador de Ézaro has the ghastly potential to murder any opportunity the sprinters have of a stage victory. Once distanced the sprinters will have to fight hard should they want to rejoin the shattered peloton. Which given the strong winds predicted, may be no easy feat. Any effort spent rejoining the peloton could drain that particular rider's energy for the challenging uphill sprint.
Stage 4's finish near Fisterra, while arguably easier than yesterday's finale, shall challenge the strength and ability of those contesting the stage victory. As the the terrain rises from roughly 25m to 115m in elevation within 2.5km. Dissimilar to several climb ridden so far this Vuelta a Espana, today's finish features a steady and consistent slope. With a calculated average gradient of 3.6%, those challenging for the stage victory can expect a modest but lengthy drag up to the finishing line.
The parcours leads me to believe that we could see three different situations occur. The original breakaway of the day could escape the grasp of the peloton should Radioshack-Leopard be left to chase solo, to protect new Maillot Rojo (Red Jersey) bearer Chris Horner. Whilst a strong group could break away from the peloton at a later time, probably somewhere around the location of the Mirador de Ézaro. Or a weakened bunch sprint could eventuate should a few teams carefully control the race and nullify any breakaways.
Were the breakaway to be caught and the sprinters to somehow survive the torture of the Mirador de Ézaro, I would favour someone like Michael Matthews of Orica-GreenEDGE to claim the stage victory. However, given the severity of the Mirador de Ézaro, despite being 34km from the finishing line, it is difficult to see them surviving or having enough left in the tank for a bunch sprint.
So it may be the puncheurs who are the favourites for the stage victory, should the breakaway be reeled in. With the sprinters absent favouritism would arguably fall upon the shoulders of Gianni Meersman (Omega Pharma – Quick-Step), Philippe Gilbert (BMC), Alejandro Valverde (Movistar), Daniel Ratto (Cannondale), and Simon Gerrans (Orica-GreenEDGE). Should the domestiques be allowed off the leash, cyclists such as Edvald Boasson Hagen (Team Sky) and Maxim Iglinskiy (Astana) could be up there with a chance too.
Whether a group of riders within the peloton will be both brave enough and allowed to attack off the front end of the peloton shall have to be seen. However, the Mirador de Ézaro could act as a great launch pad for a serious gamble at the stage victory from cyclists like Luis Leon Sanchez (Team Belkin), Zdenek Stybar (Omega Pharma – Quick-Step), and Juan Antonio Flecha of Vacansoleil – DCM. Capitalising on the confusion caused by the aftermath of the climb should allow a group to cycle clear. Any potential breakaway could receive some leeway should those deemed as a threat to the General Classification not be involved.
There we have it, three possible situations and two different lists of notable contenders. However, if cycling has taught us anything it is that it is not raced on paper. If the stage happens to be contested by a breakaway it can be almost impossible to predict one, or several, favourites whom may conquer the stage ahead of the rest. |
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| coutas98 |
Posted on 26-08-2013 18:40
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Tomorrow is for Meersman |
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