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| Deadpool |
Posted on 30-09-2012 22:55
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johnnyjur wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Logical, even with the Tour reducing again the flat ITT mileage (sigh) the Giro and the Vuelta will always suit more a rider like him, so good for him that he's not falling in the usual, and ridiculous, total focus on the Tour that other GC contenders have.
This time, though, with a proper ITT he'll need to ride more aggressively, wasting chances like at Colle Molella can't happen again.
The Giro TT isn't really pan flat either though.
Rollers aren't ideal for Wiggo, because he doesn't have the pure power, but even still, a long TT of any sort will benefit him, and probably give him 2-4 min at the least vs every other GC rider right now other than maybe Contador. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 01-10-2012 06:56
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I hope Contador will ride Tour instead of Giro, though. |
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| samdiatmh |
Posted on 01-10-2012 07:03
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i think Wiggins struggles on the really steep stuff (note Angliru in 10 Vuelta) so i think he'd struggle with the Giro/Vuelta
won't really matter though, you'd have Sky whittling the field down to 5 riders by the time it gets really steep
then he'd put home his advantage in the TT (where he's better than everyone else) |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 01-10-2012 07:06
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I just don't see Wiggins having the same motivation as he did the last 2 seasons, he won pretty much everything he wanted this year. Maybe riding the Giro and Vuelta are an attempt to keep his motivation high but he wont win the Giro.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 01-10-2012 07:07
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I agree, he won't train as hard in my opinion. He won't be the same Wiggins as this year, I'm certain of it. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 01-10-2012 07:49
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I love the Giro route for the next year, pretty balanced for Giro standarts, maybe the mountain stages could be longer.
Imo Wiggins will wont stand a chance,i believe and hope (as i really dont like him) he will have much worse year in 2013, i can see even Henao finishing in front of him, if he will be in the squad.
Other favourites? Usual suspects like Nibali, Purito, Pozzo + maybe Kreuziger if he will ride.
Edit: Some news about what Hesjedal will target next year?
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| ember |
Posted on 01-10-2012 07:51
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He will definitely target the Giro: https://www.cyclin...ro-ditalia |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 01-10-2012 17:34
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Strydz wrote:
I just don't see Wiggins having the same motivation as he did the last 2 seasons, he won pretty much everything he wanted this year. Maybe riding the Giro and Vuelta are an attempt to keep his motivation high but he wont win the Giro.
He's already restarted smoking
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 01-10-2012 20:54
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Wiggins isn't focusing on the Tour again because he knows he would be humiliated in the mountains. Simple as that |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 01-10-2012 21:21
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I don't think it's that. His main goal was winning it, and he did. I understand that he's got enough of that. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 01-10-2012 21:46
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Schleck96 wrote:
Wiggins isn't focusing on the Tour again because he knows he would be humiliated in the mountains. Simple as that
He was still almost the best climber that could be seen in a Grand Tour this year, but well, let's keep our certainties, shall we not ? He's barely worth grupetto material when mountains come, all he can do is prologues. |
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| fickman |
Posted on 01-10-2012 22:35
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Wasnt Wiggins saying almost every day during the Tour that he was going to be next Year at the Tour to help Froome??? |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 01-10-2012 23:05
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fickman wrote:
Wasnt Wiggins saying almost every day during the Tour that he was going to be next Year at the Tour to help Froome???
That was mainly to keep Froome happy once it had been clearly established he was stronger than Wiggo.
It'll be Dave Brailsford's decision, ultimately, unless either Wiggo or Froome is willing to take themselves out of the discussion. I do think Wiggo is a little hesitant about going up against Contador and Schleck next year. He can't match their accelerations in the mountains, and if the course has less TT miles, he'd have to bet on his Sky team to control the racing to an even a larger extent than they did this year. Needless to say, a tall order. Froome matches up better against them anyway, so Wiggo might decide to go after the Giro and Vuelta because he won't have to face Contador, will enter the best GC rider of the era discussion with 3 GTs, and will be seen in a positive light for giving Froome his chance.
My guess is that Wiggo will go to Brailsford, but regardless, I wouldn't be surprised if Brailsford makes the decision himself based on all the things I just said.
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Strydz wrote:
I just don't see Wiggins having the same motivation as he did the last 2 seasons, he won pretty much everything he wanted this year. Maybe riding the Giro and Vuelta are an attempt to keep his motivation high but he wont win the Giro.
He's already restarted smoking
I recently booted up PCM 05, with the PPDB Giant database. Wiggins was on Credit Agricole...and had a MO stat of 56 
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| miggi133 |
Posted on 01-10-2012 23:19
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That is the most accurate stat for wiggins i have seen in years!
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 02-10-2012 06:45
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He really came a long way 
However, Wiggins isn't a bad climber. Sure, he isn't Contador or Schleck, but he can hold an extremely tough pace in the mountains, that not many can follow. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 02-10-2012 08:01
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issoisso wrote:
Strydz wrote:
I just don't see Wiggins having the same motivation as he did the last 2 seasons, he won pretty much everything he wanted this year. Maybe riding the Giro and Vuelta are an attempt to keep his motivation high but he wont win the Giro.
He's already restarted smoking
I doubt that matters much, if he is not smoking more than a few per week. You know the lungs absorb much more and also bad things from air alone because of industry and cars?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 02-10-2012 20:38
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Strydz wrote:
I just don't see Wiggins having the same motivation as he did the last 2 seasons, he won pretty much everything he wanted this year. Maybe riding the Giro and Vuelta are an attempt to keep his motivation high but he wont win the Giro.
He's already restarted smoking
I doubt that matters much, if he is not smoking more than a few per week. You know the lungs absorb much more and also bad things from air alone because of industry and cars?
Still can't help him, only do damage.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 02-10-2012 20:39
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Ian Butler wrote:
He really came a long way
However, Wiggins isn't a bad climber. Sure, he isn't Contador or Schleck, but he can hold an extremely tough pace in the mountains, that not many can follow.
Yes, but that's quite a stretch, as that would probably be his PCM 08 stat too, but moving on.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-10-2012 06:13
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Strydz wrote:
I just don't see Wiggins having the same motivation as he did the last 2 seasons, he won pretty much everything he wanted this year. Maybe riding the Giro and Vuelta are an attempt to keep his motivation high but he wont win the Giro.
He's already restarted smoking
I doubt that matters much, if he is not smoking more than a few per week. You know the lungs absorb much more and also bad things from air alone because of industry and cars?
Still can't help him, only do damage.
I cant argue with that, but if Tour de France winner smokes sometimes, you cant still insist on theories like smoking kills your lungs forever and such a stories...(it depends on hoew much and when you smoke at least).
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| Farmer Sam |
Posted on 03-10-2012 06:29
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Strydz wrote:
I just don't see Wiggins having the same motivation as he did the last 2 seasons, he won pretty much everything he wanted this year. Maybe riding the Giro and Vuelta are an attempt to keep his motivation high but he wont win the Giro.
He's already restarted smoking
I doubt that matters much, if he is not smoking more than a few per week. You know the lungs absorb much more and also bad things from air alone because of industry and cars?
Still can't help him, only do damage.
I cant argue with that, but if Tour de France winner smokes sometimes, you cant still insist on theories like smoking kills your lungs forever and such a stories...(it depends on hoew much and when you smoke at least).
It's well known that Wiggin's enjoys a ciggie, he's been smoking for ages, it's not a regular thing anyway, just when he's off the bike for a prolonged period of time, like the off-season, or straight after the Olympics. |
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