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| knockout |
Posted on 04-08-2016 23:32
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Small issue: Reizen Waes seems to be over the max wage limit for a DT. Combined wage is 1635. (?)
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| OZrocker |
Posted on 05-08-2016 05:00
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Well spotted knockout. I just checked through the teams and most are fine but with these exceptions;
Podravka - has 10 riders with combined wages of 1675
Reizen Weiss - has 8 riders with combined wages of 1635
Both can easily be under the wage limit by changing their U23 selections.
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| Luxemburger |
Posted on 05-08-2016 08:22
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Are the 100 extra money just for research or can we save them for later (scouting?)
Kirchen's second account according to Spilak23, 21-07-2016 17:16
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| Bikex |
Posted on 05-08-2016 10:48
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@PeterRyder: Yes
@Luxemburger: Yes they are just for research, you'll get another 100 added for scouting
@knockout/OZrocker: I decided to scrap that rule, thought I had posted that in this thread, but apparently forgot that. If someone wants to change their selection based on that they are free to do that.
An upper limit maybe made sense in the first season when the max AVG of dev teams was 75 but I don't think it's in any way unfair or something if Ollfardh and Luigi have a dev team with a higher combined wage than 1500. If anything it weakens their main squads. |
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| knockout |
Posted on 05-08-2016 11:30
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Didn't read about the rule but it's fair enough and I have no problem with the change. You might want to change the rules post (/faq) for future rule changes 
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 05-08-2016 16:31
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Bikex wrote:
@knockout/OZrocker: I decided to scrap that rule, thought I had posted that in this thread, but apparently forgot that. If someone wants to change their selection based on that they are free to do that.
An upper limit maybe made sense in the first season when the max AVG of dev teams was 75 but I don't think it's in any way unfair or something if Ollfardh and Luigi have a dev team with a higher combined wage than 1500. If anything it weakens their main squads.
argh please communicate that before the season next time, otherwise guys like Mr.Panama Paper would´ve stayed :/ but I like the rule change
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| Shonak |
Posted on 06-08-2016 11:21
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I always thought the rule of 1.500 is very smart because it meant a wage cap for U23 riders and managers shy away from overpaying wages for young talent riders but no harm in abolishing it, I guess. Looking at how U23 scene looks, it may be even good too allow for higher prices.
Also, knockout's U23 team even better without the Engeldinger menance 
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| jserna735 |
Posted on 06-08-2016 13:16
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i need some clarification on the base stat DB. there are 4 rows of numbers in the stat table. what does each row stand for?
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| knockout |
Posted on 06-08-2016 14:02
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Shonak wrote:
Also, knockout's U23 team even better without the Engeldinger menance
Sick enough I might have a chance for the threepeat of winning the ICL u23 individual crown for the third straight year with the third rider
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| OZrocker |
Posted on 06-08-2016 15:46
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jserna735 wrote:
i need some clarification on the base stat DB. there are 4 rows of numbers in the stat table. what does each row stand for?
First row = rider's stat in PCM
Second = amount of stat points needed to reach that stat in ICL
Third = difference needed from previous stat point
Fourth = rider's stat in PCM (again)
So for example, Andrey Zeits has 242 stat points on MO. By looking at the second row, we can tell the important columns are Y and Z.
Because he has between the value for 74 and 75, he has a 74MO rating. Of the 34 stat points needed to progress (seen in Z3), he already has 7 more than needed for a 74 rating (Y2). So to reach 75MO he needs to get 27 more stat points in MO.
Hopefully that can help you, I found it difficult at first too 
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| jserna735 |
Posted on 06-08-2016 22:34
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OZrocker wrote:
jserna735 wrote:
i need some clarification on the base stat DB. there are 4 rows of numbers in the stat table. what does each row stand for?
First row = rider's stat in PCM
Second = amount of stat points needed to reach that stat in ICL
Third = difference needed from previous stat point
Fourth = rider's stat in PCM (again)
So for example, Andrey Zeits has 242 stat points on MO. By looking at the second row, we can tell the important columns are Y and Z.
Because he has between the value for 74 and 75, he has a 74MO rating. Of the 34 stat points needed to progress (seen in Z3), he already has 7 more than needed for a 74 rating (Y2). So to reach 75MO he needs to get 27 more stat points in MO.
Hopefully that can help you, I found it difficult at first too
awesome, this helps alot, now another question, if you can, in which spreadsheet shows the cost for stat points? i'm overloaded with spreadsheets from this and work, i feel like I'm losing it, lol
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| Bikex |
Posted on 06-08-2016 23:28
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jserna735 wrote:
awesome, this helps alot, now another question, if you can, in which spreadsheet shows the cost for stat points? i'm overloaded with spreadsheets from this and work, i feel like I'm losing it, lol
How much statpoints you get is explained here in the second paragraph: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....st_1197147
I'll also add it to the rules post now.
In the coming days I will probably have a lot more time for ICL than I had before, so there should be some progress. My current to-do list looks like this:
- creating race routes
- upload race route pictures and put it into calendar thread
- uploading research training file
- implementing research training and other into the db
- race selections/race planning
- collecting jerseys for all teams including transferts and champions jerseys
- updating and improving Archive-File
That's quite a lot so if someone thinks he can help with something there, he is very welcome to do so. Just let me know. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 08-08-2016 12:35
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Not good...that calendar is a very bad surprise :/ I might didn´t look close enough before but the balance between stage races and classics looks cruel for us, which means either the calendar or most likely our squad is horribly unbalanced...
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| Bikex |
Posted on 08-08-2016 12:42
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Croatia14 wrote:
Not good...that calendar is a very bad surprise :/ I might didn´t look close enough before but the balance between stage races and classics looks cruel for us, which means either the calendar or most likely our squad is horribly unbalanced...
Well now it's too late there was enough time to complain about the calendar. I even posted in here to ask you to look at the calendar. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 08-08-2016 12:47
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Bikex wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
Not good...that calendar is a very bad surprise :/ I might didn´t look close enough before but the balance between stage races and classics looks cruel for us, which means either the calendar or most likely our squad is horribly unbalanced...
Well now it's too late there was enough time to complain about the calendar. I even posted in here to ask you to look at the calendar.
It´s more critizising myself for failing on planning right for it...was just a first reaction in comparison to what I have in mind from the real WT
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| Bikex |
Posted on 08-08-2016 12:58
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Croatia14 wrote:
Bikex wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
Not good...that calendar is a very bad surprise :/ I might didn´t look close enough before but the balance between stage races and classics looks cruel for us, which means either the calendar or most likely our squad is horribly unbalanced...
Well now it's too late there was enough time to complain about the calendar. I even posted in here to ask you to look at the calendar.
It´s more critizising myself for failing on planning right for it...was just a first reaction in comparison to what I have in mind from the real WT
I also noticed that there are very much one day races on the WT calendar. I thought this could be a problem, but imo there are plenty of scoring opportunities for every rider type. Stage racers anyways have the GTs for them already, which give by far the most points usually. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 08-08-2016 14:22
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From what I´ve seen so far the profile of Rheden GP is missing...
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 08-08-2016 14:26
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Blame steal attempts for my high Dev team wage 
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 08-08-2016 21:32
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Croatia14 wrote:
From what I´ve seen so far the profile of Rheden GP is missing...
I have moved up the Luxembourg race and wanted another race to be CT.2 instead. I decided on Rheden GP. I realize now another race would probably have been smarter with two Dutch WT teams. I think I'll downgrade Wallojne Prijs instead. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 08-08-2016 22:21
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Bikex wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
From what I´ve seen so far the profile of Rheden GP is missing...
I have moved up the Luxembourg race and wanted another race to be CT.2 instead. I decided on Rheden GP. I realize now another race would probably have been smarter with two Dutch WT teams. I think I'll downgrade Wallojne Prijs instead.
That´s no problem for me, just wondered why it´s in the calendar but no in the profiles thread...
Some more questions:
1. How many participants does Campania, Quebec and Virginia include?
2. Do we have to pay race days for World TTT champs?
3. Do we get GT routes before choosing race selections?
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