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PCM.daily Expansion Pack 2014: Official announcement
djick
well these teams will be stronger than Col 472.so the results look.she and replace 472 should just Colombian team
 
haasje33
It's still our decision to make. It's no use trying to convince us, like you've tried many, many times before. We're putting much time and effort in creating these databases and getting the majority of our users happy. That means that our focus lays on Western Europe, getting everything in that region as accurate and realistic as possible.

If that isn't good enough for you, try creating your own database.
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HO HO HO! Surprise!

I am proud to announce that we're finished with the V2 of the Expansion Pack!

We're planning to release the Expansion Pack before the end of next week, to leave room to beta testing in order to avoid that you'll experience annoying bugs and glitches.

A presentation thread with a list of features and a few screenshots will be posted later today or earlier tomorrow, most likely. (CET)

This is our Christmas gift, Merry Christmas you all by all the PCM.Daily Database team.
Edited by matt17br on 24-12-2014 15:56
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dark_x2012
AWESOME BananaBananaBananaBanana
 
sgdanny
Thanks for the present Smile
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AiZaK
Oleeee ! ! ! Thanks a lot
 
matt17br
If you haven't noticed it yet, the Features Thread has now been posted, have an enjoyable read Wink
Edited by matt17br on 24-12-2014 17:15
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AiZaK
Hello, I saw in the V2 that you are going to fix the .HC for Tour of Britain and GP du canton d'Argovie.

The RideLondon-Surrey Classic is 1.HC too!! Add it please!

Thanks boys!!
 
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AiZaK wrote:
Hello, I saw in the V2 that you are going to fix the .HC for Tour of Britain and GP du canton d'Argovie.

The RideLondon-Surrey Classic is 1.HC too!! Add it please!

Thanks boys!!

Thank you, gonna check it now Wink

EDIT: You're right, it will be fixed Wink
Edited by matt17br on 25-12-2014 18:34
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Tafiolmo
On the screen that you've posted the riders by 'Hill Stat' as an example. I've noticed that the major changes that you've made in this update are on secondary stats like Endurance and Resistance. I've noticed that a few riders like Valverde, Rodriguez and Kwiatkowski have gone down in endurance but have gone up in resistance, any reason for this?

Surely Kwiatkowski for example shouldn't have his endurance going down and all these riders have a history of riding well in 200 a 300km races.

Resistance is also the only stat that I'm not completely sure on what it does, what exactly is its effect in the game? I was always under the impression that it was a rider's ability to maintain a high-tempo when riding on effort, if that is the case why is Contador less than some of the other big GC men, as he's one of the best when it comes to riding for long periods solo in mountain stages?
Edited by Tafiolmo on 25-12-2014 23:25
 
matt17br
Tafiolmo wrote:
On the screen that you've posted the riders by 'Hill Stat' as an example. I've noticed that the major changes that you've made in this update are on secondary stats like Endurance and Resistance. I've noticed that a few riders like Valverde, Rodriguez and Kwiatkowski have gone down in endurance but have gone up in resistance, any reason for this?

Surely Kwiatkowski for example shouldn't have his endurance going down and all these riders have a history of riding well in 200 a 300km races.

Resistance is also the only stat that I'm not completely sure on what it does, what exactly is its effect in the game? I was always under the impression that it was a rider's ability to maintain a high-tempo when riding on effort, if that is the case why is Contador less than some of the other big GC men, as he's one of the best when it comes to riding for long periods solo in mountain stages?

Yes, you're right, the major changes were made on the secondary stats in order to make the gameplay more realistic.

What popped up to our mind in the last months was the need of a major difference between those 2 kinds of riders: Ardennes Punchers & Stage Races/Minor Classics Punchers.

For example, Valverde and Purito are CLEARLY Ardennes Punchers, because the only way they can win that kind of race is by attacking on the toughest hills, the exact opposite of a rider like Gerrans that rarely attacks and waits for the end of those, so that he can win them in a tight sprint.

Therefore we (well, Alakagom mainly) changed the endurance and resistance backup stats, along with minor fighter stats adjustments.

Indeed now Gerrans has got a fighter stats of 72, in order to avoid him to attack on the tough slopes of the Mur de Huy, while Gilbert and Valverde will be the first serious contenders who will attack on the Cauberg.

The only way to avoid Contador winning the Fleche Wallone was lowering his Resistance stat. If you look closer, you'll easily notice that the guys that never take part in the Ardennes Classic all have got less than 76 in that stat (Contador, Pozzovivo and Quintana all have 75).

Yes, the resistance stat mainly affects the yellow bar and in a minor part the green one.
Other than affecting "a rider's ability to maintain a high-tempo when riding on effort", it also affects the moment of the race where the rider will run out of energy.

Lastly, the endurance's gone down for several riders to avoid better Gerrans attacking on the Mur de Huy, indeed if he'll try to attack, his pace won't be enough to gain enough seconds, and it is so low because in Cyanide official database the matrix of this stats is always a bit lower than the others (and we still think that they know what they're doing though all the popular rumors) and because we didn't want to create too large differences between a rider and the other.

I hope that this explanation has been fairly comprehensive to take away all your doubts Smile
Edited by matt17br on 26-12-2014 10:34
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Tafiolmo
matt17br wrote:
Tafiolmo wrote:
On the screen that you've posted the riders by 'Hill Stat' as an example. I've noticed that the major changes that you've made in this update are on secondary stats like Endurance and Resistance. I've noticed that a few riders like Valverde, Rodriguez and Kwiatkowski have gone down in endurance but have gone up in resistance, any reason for this?

Surely Kwiatkowski for example shouldn't have his endurance going down and all these riders have a history of riding well in 200 a 300km races.

Resistance is also the only stat that I'm not completely sure on what it does, what exactly is its effect in the game? I was always under the impression that it was a rider's ability to maintain a high-tempo when riding on effort, if that is the case why is Contador less than some of the other big GC men, as he's one of the best when it comes to riding for long periods solo in mountain stages?

Yes, you're right, the major changes were made on the secondary stats in order to make the gameplay more realistic.

What popped up to our mind in the last months was the need of a major difference between those 2 kinds of riders: Ardennes Punchers & Stage Races/Minor Classics Punchers.

For example, Valverde and Purito are CLEARLY Ardennes Punchers, because the only way they can win that kind of race is by attacking on the toughest hills, the exact opposite of a rider like Gerrans that rarely attacks and waits for the end of those, so that he can win them in a tight sprint.

Therefore we (well, Alakagom mainly) changed the endurance and resistance backup stats, along with minor fighter stats adjustments.

Indeed now Gerrans has got a fighter stats of 72, in order to avoid him to attack on the tough slopes of the Mur de Huy, while Gilbert and Valverde will be the first serious contenders who will attack on the Cauberg.

The only way to avoid Contador winning the Fleche Wallone was lowering his Resistance stat. If you look closer, you'll easily notice that the guys that never take part in the Ardennes Classic all have got less than 76 in that stat (Contador, Pozzovivo and Quintana all have 75).

Yes, the resistance stat mainly affects the yellow bar and in a minor part the green one.
Other than affecting "a rider's ability to maintain a high-tempo when riding on effort", it also affects the moment of the race where the rider will run out of energy.

Lastly, the endurance's gone down for several riders to avoid better Gerrans attacking on the Mur de Huy, indeed if he'll try to attack, his pace won't be enough to gain enough seconds, and it is so low because in Cyanide official database the matrix of this stats is always a bit lower than the others (and we still think that they know what they're doing though all the popular rumors) and because we didn't want to create too large differences between a rider and the other.

I hope that this explanation has been fairly comprehensive to take away all your doubts Smile


Yes thanks for the detailed explanation and everything is now clear and I'm happy that an attempt has been made to differentiate between the different type of puncheurs. I agree about Contador as I once had him winning the Fleche Wallonne.

One thing to clarify though, you are saying that the endurance of some riders has gone down, so as to stop them attacking early on, for example Gerrans has lower fighter, resistancce and endurance to stop him attacking early on, so he just tries to hang in there to win a sprint?

Also Contador and POzzovivo for example have lower endurance and resistance to stop them being an Ardennes puncheurs
Edited by Tafiolmo on 26-12-2014 16:26
 
matt17br
Yup that's it, endurance regulates the percentage of successfull attacks, so if Gerrans even tries to attack he won't succeed (but he wont even try because of his ftr stat)

The Endurance therefore has gone down for Contador, Pozzovivo etc. exactly to make them have a less probability of getting a good resilt in the ardennes classic.
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Tafiolmo
matt17br wrote:
Yup that's it, endurance regulates the percentage of successfull attacks, so if Gerrans even tries to attack he won't succeed (but he wont even try because of his ftr stat)

The Endurance therefore has gone down for Contador, Pozzovivo etc. exactly to make them have a less probability of getting a good resilt in the ardennes classic.


Thanks you're a genius.
 
dark_x2012
Will the v2 be out before New year
 
matt17br
dark_x2012 wrote:
Will the v2 be out before New year

That's our aim Wink
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Tafiolmo
With all the changes of the resistance stat, what is a rider like Cancellara at in that stat?
 
matt17br
The matrix hasnt changed much for the riders like Cancellara, gonna check the difference tomorrow if I remind of it, but it hasnt probably even changed, as our main purpose was optimizing hill stat matrix Wink
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Tafiolmo
matt17br wrote:
The matrix hasnt changed much for the riders like Cancellara, gonna check the difference tomorrow if I remind of it, but it hasnt probably even changed, as our main purpose was optimizing hill stat matrix Wink


It's 77 as that is his res stat in the post-vuelta DB and the one I'm playing with.
 
matt17br
Tafiolmo wrote:
matt17br wrote:
The matrix hasnt changed much for the riders like Cancellara, gonna check the difference tomorrow if I remind of it, but it hasnt probably even changed, as our main purpose was optimizing hill stat matrix Wink


It's 77 as that is his res stat in the post-vuelta DB and the one I'm playing with.

Just checked, his new stat is still 77 Wink
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