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TdF'13 Stage 20 - Annecy to Annecy-Semnoz (July 20)
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:44
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I think white is important. But not more so than the others.
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:44
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Nin1388 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Interesting thought. Quintana vs Nibali. Hard to say who's better. Nibali is more complete, but Quintana is such an awesome climber... hmm
Next year TdF will be awesome. Froome, Quintana and Nibali.
Remember Nibali is only guy too beat Froome this year in any GC in Tirreno–Adriatico, Though in downhill on penultimate stage.
next years TdF is for Porte 
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| kumazan |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:45
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
emre99 wrote:
Congratz to QUINTANA for winning WHITE AND POLKA DOT jersey in one tour
This is the first guy who did THIS.
Merckx would've if the white jersey had existed.
Would be surprised if Quintana didn't go full-on for the Tour next year, sending the only guy with a chance of beating Froome to a much lesser race like the Giro (in terms of marketing value that is) doesn't seem like the best move...
But then team manager Alejandro Valverde wouldn't have the chance to keep chasing his most desired career goal, the TdF podium. 
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Posted on 20-07-2013 16:46
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Riis123 wrote:
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Whats your take on this? I dunno enough to make any kind of analysis
My take would be that those numbers are quite enormously impressive for the penultimate stage of a really tough Tour, especially the last four-five days taken into comparison. It was a short stage and that is the only factor beneficial of this being a clean ride.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:46
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ruben wrote:
Interesting thought. Quintana vs Nibali. Hard to say who's better. Nibali is more complete, but Quintana is such an awesome climber... hmm
Giro climbs were longer and done in the cold, but most of them weren't as fast if you check VAM, Watts or stuff like that.
Randomly guessing what Nibbles performances would have been on this Tour de France, and discounting the influence of his presence in the race, I guess he'd have been second with some margin though. About midway between Froome and Quintana. Slightly behind Quintana in the mountains, but much closer to Froome in the TT. |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:47
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Nin1388 wrote:
Next year TdF will be awesome. Froome, Quintana and Nibali.
Remember Nibali is only guy too beat Froome this year in any GC in Tirreno–Adriatico, Though in downhill on penultimate stage.
If Quintana wont be caught in some doping .....
But next year is next year and Froome wont have any problem winning his 2nd tour.
Nibali wont be a problem for Froome uphill. |
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| Nin1388 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:48
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Interesting thought. Quintana vs Nibali. Hard to say who's better. Nibali is more complete, but Quintana is such an awesome climber... hmm
Next year TdF will be awesome. Froome, Quintana and Nibali.
Remember Nibali is only guy too beat Froome this year in any GC in Tirreno–Adriatico, Though in downhill on penultimate stage.
next years TdF is for Porte
I don't think Porte has what it takes over 3 weeks. That is just my opinion. Nothing to do that I'm a Brit.
It happened with Wiggins-Froome. But now Wiggins is passed his best. But Froome still in prime and as long as Porte is in same team he will never be leader. |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:49
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
next years TdF is for Porte
No. Porte has been promised leadership at the Giro.
Froome has already said that he wants to win the next 6 or 7 Tours.
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| Chons07 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:50
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Nin1388 wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Interesting thought. Quintana vs Nibali. Hard to say who's better. Nibali is more complete, but Quintana is such an awesome climber... hmm
Next year TdF will be awesome. Froome, Quintana and Nibali.
Remember Nibali is only guy too beat Froome this year in any GC in Tirreno–Adriatico, Though in downhill on penultimate stage.
next years TdF is for Porte
I don't think Porte has what it takes over 3 weeks. That is just my opinion. Nothing to do that I'm a Brit.
It happened with Wiggins-Froome. But now Wiggins is passed his best. But Froome still in prime and as long as Porte is in same team he will never be leader.
Not to mention that Froome is quite greedy, even asking him to work or sit out so his best friend can take the win would be too much for him I think. |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:51
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But another thing, some of the experts mentions that especially Rodriguez´s transformation over the rest day is very suspicious.
So it might not be over yet
Edited by Jacdk on 20-07-2013 16:58
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:51
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Chons07 wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Interesting thought. Quintana vs Nibali. Hard to say who's better. Nibali is more complete, but Quintana is such an awesome climber... hmm
Next year TdF will be awesome. Froome, Quintana and Nibali.
Remember Nibali is only guy too beat Froome this year in any GC in Tirreno–Adriatico, Though in downhill on penultimate stage.
next years TdF is for Porte
I don't think Porte has what it takes over 3 weeks. That is just my opinion. Nothing to do that I'm a Brit.
It happened with Wiggins-Froome. But now Wiggins is passed his best. But Froome still in prime and as long as Porte is in same team he will never be leader.
Not to mention that Froome is quite greedy, even asking him to work or sit out so his best friend can take the win would be too much for him I think.
Yeah, right. Because he didn't do exactly same thing last year for Wiggins? 
Anyway, Froome is stronger rider than Porte, hence he'll be leading Tour. Porte will be doing Giro with according support.
Edited by Alakagom on 20-07-2013 16:52
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| Bikex |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:52
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
next years TdF is for Porte
No. Porte has been promised leadership at the Giro.
Froome has already said that he wants to win the next 6 or 7 Tours.
Hopefully not...
I doubt that could happen though, but you never know on what Sky's "science" team is atm. |
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:52
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Cadel Evans finishing over a 1 hour done overall, I have never seen him finish over an hour down, I think it may be time to retire, but I think the fact that he done the Giro maybe a reason why, maybe the Giro had taken alot of him than we expected.
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| Kimmage |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:52
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Jacdk wrote:
But another thing, some of the experts mentions that especially Rodriguez´s transformation over the rest day is very specious.
So it might not be over yet
Blood transfusions can't be detected. Don't count on anything. |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:53
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I cant understand why people consider Porte to be a GT winner and especially not Tour De France.
Yes, he is good on the uphill climbs but unless it was on purpose he is over 30min behind the winner.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:54
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He was a domestique from the off, he didn't go to this Tour with the mentality of the leader.
You can't discount Porte's chances of winning a GT due to few bad stages here.
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| Chons07 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:56
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Alakagom wrote:
Chons07 wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Interesting thought. Quintana vs Nibali. Hard to say who's better. Nibali is more complete, but Quintana is such an awesome climber... hmm
Next year TdF will be awesome. Froome, Quintana and Nibali.
Remember Nibali is only guy too beat Froome this year in any GC in Tirreno–Adriatico, Though in downhill on penultimate stage.
next years TdF is for Porte
I don't think Porte has what it takes over 3 weeks. That is just my opinion. Nothing to do that I'm a Brit.
It happened with Wiggins-Froome. But now Wiggins is passed his best. But Froome still in prime and as long as Porte is in same team he will never be leader.
Not to mention that Froome is quite greedy, even asking him to work or sit out so his best friend can take the win would be too much for him I think.
Yeah, right. Because he didn't do exactly same thing last year for Wiggins?
Anyway, Froome is stronger rider than Porte, hence he'll be leading Tour. Porte will be doing Giro with according support.
That was also before he won, winning is addictive. |
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| Jeremy |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:57
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Kimmage wrote:
Jacdk wrote:
But another thing, some of the experts mentions that especially Rodriguez´s transformation over the rest day is very specious.
So it might not be over yet
Blood transfusions can't be detected. Don't count on anything.
Of course they can. What do you think bio passports do? The only transfusion that can't be detected is one that the quantity is so small that almost no advantage is gained.
If Sky is doping, it's something new.
Also, everyone in this forum pretty much casts doubt on every win. How can you still enjoy the sport thinking like that? |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:57
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Alakagom wrote:
He was a domestique from the off, he didn't go to this Tour with the mentality of the leader.
You can't discount Porte's chances of winning a GT due to few bad stages here.
When have you ever seen a rider go from being 30-35min behind the winner to actually win a tour?
I guess if Porte wants to prove that he is taking something else then tap water, he cna win, but there is no chance in h... that Porte can ever win a GT if he is clean. |
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:59
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Jacdk wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
He was a domestique from the off, he didn't go to this Tour with the mentality of the leader.
You can't discount Porte's chances of winning a GT due to few bad stages here.
When have you ever seen a rider go from being 30-35min behind the winner to actually win a tour?
I guess if Porte wants to prove that he is taking something else then tap water, he cna win, but there is no chance in h... that Porte can ever win a GT if he is clean.
When you take into account the amount of work Porte has done, also the stage he was caught out in the crosswinds, Porte has probaly done the most work of any domestique in this years Tour!
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