DubbelDekker wrote:
Even when two big teams (who together have more riders on the road than all other teams combined) are not in the break, they just let the break win...

Tsmoha and the other reporters are doing a great job producing all these reports and it's an insult to their hard work that the majority of races are absolute rubbish.
Also the value of NC jerseys goes down, because quality is no longer a requirement to get them.

Is there a PCM version of which we are sure it can handle these types of line-ups? If so, might it be an idea to use that PCM for the NC's next year?

sammyt93 wrote:


that or merge them until we get over the limit for a proper AI, although that could create issues where the stronger riders from a nation support riders from another nation rather than going after their own titles.

Atlantius wrote:

That problem could be prevented by allowing teams with more than one nationality in the race to split the team up.
Otherwise a good idea I think.

SportingNonsense wrote:
In idea I had, after the NCs started, was much shorter races for some of the weaker fields - at most 50km. Not sure if it would improve things, but could be worth investigating

DubbelDekker wrote:
Congrats mb! Strong showing by Madrazo.

mb2612 wrote:


Perfect, especially with Tenorio getting the ITT as well.


Honestly races with less than 100 riders just don't work well in pcm. It would be great if riders were more likely to attack if the peloton was smaller, but it seems to be the other way round in the game.

The problem is that the man game is the only place where 20 rider race are run, so it's probably not the highest thing on cyanide's priorities.

TheManxMissile wrote:


Doubt it would make a difference. I've played PITS routes with "real" startlists and in those (with 6-7 equal teams each with a real chance of winning) you more often get breakaway wins than "normal" races. Only difference being the time gaps are nearer 20mins than 1hour

Gustavovskiy wrote:

Damnit. I wasn't aware the spanish race was to be a mountainous race, which led me to believe Ventoso would be a favourite. And it pisses me off that Plaza's attempt was definitely going to grant the victory in a typical NC race.

But obviously it's only fair your team gets to wear the distinctive jersey. It's a nice reward for sticking to the original plan. Congratulations

tsmoha wrote:


Yap, agree with Manx here. The riders just stop racing, "dotting" with less than 10 effort or so.. which wouldn't change in even short races.. I'm actually motivated to consider some changes, that may play out in a way. Like filling at least three teams with (top)favorites up with kinda shitty domestiques (may it be fake or free agents).. I know this would cause some problems, if such a rider actually wins a NC, but it may at least help getting the peloton to chase (while still open opportunities for a breakaway to succeed). I may test some ideas when the time comes though

sammyt93 wrote:
creating a bunch of flat all round 50 stat riders to poulate the samller ones to the point where they would get a decent AI, without being good enough to deservedly win themselves, and then maybe treating them like control riders and not counting their results could work, or would that look abit too weird?