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| admirschleck |
Posted on 24-07-2013 02:46
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baseballlover312 wrote:
since most people are against me, if you know what I mean.
You're probably talking that to most-hated guy on this forum. But , well , we sometimes have to live with that, and i can take it pretty easily. 
Sorry for going off-topic.
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Posted on 24-07-2013 02:47
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baseballlover312 wrote:
I can't even believe this. But okay. End it here. I'm not getting banned for this.
My respect for you just increased fiftyfold. And Martin 77/78, Betancourt 77/77, Martin +3 STA, -1 REC.
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Posted on 24-07-2013 02:48
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NTTHRASH wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
I can't even believe this. But okay. End it here. I'm not getting banned for this.
My respect for you just increased fiftyfold. And Martin 77/78, Betancourt 77/77, Martin +3 STA, -1 REC.
Are you fucking serious? The guy should get at least 79MO/78HIL.
And he is Betancur, not Betancourt.
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Posted on 24-07-2013 02:49
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NTTHRASH wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
I can't even believe this. But okay. End it here. I'm not getting banned for this.
My respect for you just increased fiftyfold. And Martin 77/78, Betancourt 77/77, Martin +3 STA, -1 REC.
I think you should move both those hills stats up 1. Also, Betancur should have better mountain than Martin, and Martin should have horrible recovery.
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Posted on 24-07-2013 02:50
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admirschleck wrote:
NTTHRASH wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
I can't even believe this. But okay. End it here. I'm not getting banned for this.
My respect for you just increased fiftyfold. And Martin 77/78, Betancourt 77/77, Martin +3 STA, -1 REC.
Are you fucking serious? The guy should get at least 79MO/78HIL.
And he is Betancur, not Betancourt.
Look who's raging now.
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Posted on 24-07-2013 02:51
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And there it goes...You just said (confirmed) what i said... Both of them +1 in HIL which means = 78 , Betancur 1 MO point more than HIL = 79 .... -> 79MO/78HIL.
Exactly what i said...
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 24-07-2013 02:52
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admirschleck wrote:
NTTHRASH wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
I can't even believe this. But okay. End it here. I'm not getting banned for this.
My respect for you just increased fiftyfold. And Martin 77/78, Betancourt 77/77, Martin +3 STA, -1 REC.
Are you fucking serious? The guy should get at least 79MO/78HIL.
And he is Betancur, not Betancourt.
Autocorrect kills. But I have the whole matrix lower, and Martin doesn't win anything but hilly classics, which is fairly realistic, other than the obvious. There's no reason for that language, it's an opinion not dick, so don't take it so hard.
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 24-07-2013 02:55
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On the subject of the matrix, can guys like Quintana and Kwiatkowski please have stat limits? Quintana will have 85MO by next year.
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 24-07-2013 02:55
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NTTHRASH wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
NTTHRASH wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
I can't even believe this. But okay. End it here. I'm not getting banned for this.
My respect for you just increased fiftyfold. And Martin 77/78, Betancourt 77/77, Martin +3 STA, -1 REC.
Are you fucking serious? The guy should get at least 79MO/78HIL.
And he is Betancur, not Betancourt.
Autocorrect kills. But I have the whole matrix lower, and Martin doesn't win anything but hilly classics, which is fairly realistic, other than the obvious. There's no reason for that language, it's an opinion not dick, so don't take it so hard.
Firstly , sorry for making pyramids.
Okay , sorry , was offensive pretty much. 
edit* I agree with you about Quintana/Kwiatkowski/Sagan and many other "great talents". I wouldn't give them big potential,since they're going to get 85 in next year. As many of other cases/riders showed, if you're doing so great in that years ,you're going to slighlty fall in form in next years, that are normally best years for rider. Contador , Schleck are great examples. Purito is total difference.
So, point is that i wouldn't give them potential more than 5-6 max.
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Posted on 24-07-2013 02:57
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It's alright, teenage hormones can be quite awful, can't they? Let's stop polluting this stats thread now. 
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 24-07-2013 02:58
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admirschleck wrote:
And there it goes...You just said (confirmed) what i said... Both of them +1 in HIL which means = 78 , Betancur 1 MO point more than HIL = 79 .... -> 79MO/78HIL.
Exactly what i said...
Okay: 77/78 + 1 hill = 79
77 hill + 1 = 78
78/78 is not the same as 77/79
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Posted on 24-07-2013 03:03
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NTTHRASH wrote:
It's alright, teenage hormones can be quite awful, can't they? Let's stop polluting this stats thread now.
Hmm,sorry old guy... Shut up, you're even younger than me.
Check post above, i edited it (about Quintana and Kwiat).
baseballlover312 wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
And there it goes...You just said (confirmed) what i said... Both of them +1 in HIL which means = 78 , Betancur 1 MO point more than HIL = 79 .... -> 79MO/78HIL.
Exactly what i said...
Okay: 77/78 + 1 hill = 79
77 hill + 1 = 78
78/78 is not the same as 77/79
Seems like you're underrating Betancur pretty much. Guy is great climber, and even better puncheur with superdupermegahyperawesome acceleration!
78/78 or even 79/78 would be realistic stats for him. Also , great recovery , since he showed pretty much in 3rd week of Giro. But nothing compared to Nibali, of course.
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Posted on 24-07-2013 03:08
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A random tip for the DB editors. gene_i_nationalism is really helpful to a rider, so don't give everyone 2. Give a Frenchie a 5, and they ride harder in France. It's just a tip, but it could be handy for Bastille Day.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 24-07-2013 03:09
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admirschleck wrote:
NTTHRASH wrote:
It's alright, teenage hormones can be quite awful, can't they? Let's stop polluting this stats thread now.
Hmm,sorry old guy... Shut up, you're even younger than me.
Check post above, i edited it (about Quintana and Kwiat).
baseballlover312 wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
And there it goes...You just said (confirmed) what i said... Both of them +1 in HIL which means = 78 , Betancur 1 MO point more than HIL = 79 .... -> 79MO/78HIL.
Exactly what i said...
Okay: 77/78 + 1 hill = 79
77 hill + 1 = 78
78/78 is not the same as 77/79
Seems like you're underrating Betancur pretty much. Guy is great climber, and even better puncheur with superdupermegahyperawesome acceleration!
78/78 or even 79/78 would be realistic stats for him. Also , great recovery , since he showed pretty much in 3rd week of Giro. But nothing compared to Nibali, of course.
Betancur should have 78/78 with 81 recovery and 82 acceleration for me
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Posted on 24-07-2013 03:11
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Betancur should have 78/78 with 81 recovery and 82 acceleration for me.
Agree!
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 24-07-2013 03:16
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admirschleck wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Betancur should have 78/78 with 81 recovery and 82 acceleration for me.
Agree!
So we just went through all that, and we actually agree.
Ok. Well I'm sorry for any trouble I caused, and I know it was alot.
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Posted on 24-07-2013 07:01
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For me, Dan Martin & Betancur deserve 79 in Hills |
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Posted on 24-07-2013 08:08
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NTTHRASH wrote:
A random tip for the DB editors. gene_i_nationalism is really helpful to a rider, so don't give everyone 2. Give a Frenchie a 5, and they ride harder in France. It's just a tip, but it could be handy for Bastille Day.
Hmm?
Isn't it going to 3, and only defining whether they:
- Always accept WC invites(3)
- Only accept WC invites if fits their schedule(2)
- Never accepts WC invites(1)
Does it have more effects?
Also, I'd put Betancur on 79HI & Martin on 79 or 80, not sure. I think 79 suits him better...
Martin can take 76MO for me, actually.
He was the first decent climber to drop most of the time, at least in the Alps. Terrible REC could take care of that as well, not even Top 75 in the last 3 mountain stages 
Or was something wrong with him?(Injury or whatever)
Edit: Or is it a bad thing to feed this discussion in this situation?
Edited by Jesleyh on 24-07-2013 08:10
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Posted on 24-07-2013 08:13
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Jesleyh wrote:
Or was something wrong with him?(Injury or whatever)
Sick
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-07-2013 08:19
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Or was something wrong with him?(Injury or whatever)
Sick
Ah, that explains it.
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