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Cobbled Classics (E3, Gent-Wevelgem)
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| Wilier |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:19
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I define any 1.HC or higher race as classic. Lower races are semi-classics. 
Edited by Wilier on 24-03-2013 16:19
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| Speedtrash |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:20
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great Peter Sagan again!!! |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:21
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Wilier wrote:
I define any 1.HC or higher race as classic. Lower races are semi-classics.
Kuurne is a classic for me.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:23
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Spilak23 wrote:
Wilier wrote:
I define any 1.HC or higher race as classic. Lower races are semi-classics.
Kuurne is a classic for me.
I'd say it's a semi, but I guess it's a hard one. However, I wouldn't call the Canadian races (as nice as they are) classics, or even semiclassics, just yet.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:24
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Spilak23 wrote:
Wilier wrote:
I define any 1.HC or higher race as classic. Lower races are semi-classics.
Kuurne is a classic for me.
Kuurne has a long history. So I could understand that. |
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| Metriz- |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:30
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Well done Sagan, and well deserved after three second places in a row. |
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:34
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A classic is a one-day race with a rich and long history.
GP Città di Camaiore is a semi-classic to me. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:35
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I love him I love him I love him 
What a finale, what a strength! Hope for Sagan in Vlaanderen! |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:39
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Strade Bianche only has a short history and a 1.1 rating but I still see it as a classic aswell. Startlist and old winners play an important role aswell.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:40
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kumazan wrote:
The classics are the biggest, most traditional one day races. Amongst them, the monuments are the bigger ones.
That's also the definition I use, but I'm forced to admit it's subjective.
When is a classic big enough to be considered among "the biggest" ?
How many years of existence must it have to become "traditional" ?
There's no definitive answer. Especially if you introduce a notion of "semi-classic". Everyone understands what it means, but the definition is even harder to write. |
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:58
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I see every pre-worldwar 2 race as a classic which are the 5 monuments, Paris-Tours, Paris-Brussels, GP Fourmies, Gent-Wevelgem, la Fleche Wallonne, GP Ouest France-Plouay and some other Italian classics.
It's a bit difficult to define the other races as (semi)classic or not.
My personal opinion is Omloop, E3 and Amstel are classics, the others are semi-classics and the newer one day-races like the Canadian "classics" or the Strade Bianche are just one day-races.
Edited by fosforgasXIII on 24-03-2013 19:29
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 17:58
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Just 70 riders finished the race!
Degenkolb disappointed big time again. Didn't even finish with the peloton, but in a small group 6:30 behind Sagan. Is he injured, sick or something?
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 24-03-2013 17:59
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Coquard impressive with 16th, he's just 20 as well.
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 18:01
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Just 70 riders finished the race!
Degenkolb disappointed big time again. Didn't even finish with the peloton, but in a small group 6:30 behind Sagan. Is he injured, sick or something?
He had some muscle problems which still affected him in Milan-San Remo. Don't know if it still caused problems today.
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 24-03-2013 18:02
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I'm glad Sagan won!
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 24-03-2013 22:34
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felix_29 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Just 70 riders finished the race!
Degenkolb disappointed big time again. Didn't even finish with the peloton, but in a small group 6:30 behind Sagan. Is he injured, sick or something?
He had some muscle problems which still affected him in Milan-San Remo. Don't know if it still caused problems today.
He's had a disrupted season full stop from what little I can remember. Didn't he miss a number of races earlier this season too, though it escapes me as to the exact reasons why. |
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| 547984 |
Posted on 25-03-2013 02:23
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Sagan, and about time. There's been so much hype about him here...
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 25-03-2013 06:45
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Haussler was not happy with Eisel and apparently a few others after the finish. Reminds me a bit of Wiggins. 
"Yeah, I'm fucking mad. "I used so much energy just to get back to the front group... Fucking hell, it was a hard race. Especially, the whole time I was just by myself. The bloody wankers just sit on and go: ‘no, no, we've got a guy at the back and all this bullshit.’"
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 25-03-2013 07:35
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547984 wrote:
Sagan, and about time. There's been so much hype about him here...
Yeah, two stage wins at T-A and 2nd at MSR and E3 during two weeks were not worth the hype.
Anyway Sagan says he is extremely happy for his first big classic win and it makes him and the team stronger for the next races, now they can race with more confidence. Peter gives big credit to his team and especially Bodnar, because it was hard job in the front group in strong wind, headwind at some points.
He was a bit afraid that only four-five men in the group cooperated and that peloton is nearing fast, so he prevented the possible problems with attack, when Bodnar was empty.
Wheelie on the line was for the fans, who were freezing the whole day only to see the race, according to his words. 
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 25-03-2013 09:09
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Sagan was very impressive in his attack, brought the pack back on a gap from 30 seconds to 55 seconds, amazing
I hope Cannondale can build a team worthy of Sagan! |
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