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[PT 22] ELCO - ABEA
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 22-08-2022 15:23
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Great to see the focus playing out and hitting all the marks so far!
Interesting to see you view Matsangos with Fabian training. Thinking about him as a TTT guy? With his mtn/hill being so high for a cobbler, I'd be tempted to throw some Classics in there instead.
Also nice to see Bouglas back home. Would have been happy to have him back myself, but he's in the right place now. 
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 22-08-2022 15:26
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Really nice teambuilding. I don't think Farantakis is only at 50k, that would be the cherry on top  But nonetheless, good riders for today and the future!
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| SotD |
Posted on 23-08-2022 21:03
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@Luis Leon Sanchez
- Thanks. Indeed Farantakis is the big boy of Greece and a very important signing. I was a bit surprised to land Karatsivis for 75K tbh. I had a lot more earmarked for him, but that's just great as it means I could go for a few others
@baseballlover312
- Yeah I have a couple of different possible routes for him. The problem with "Classics" is the fact that he's pot 3 only. So he will only receive a total of +3HI if I pick that one, which would then cost -2COB, and I don't like that tradeoff. With the Fabian path he doesn't lose any COB stats, but get's to a level where he may be usefull in a race like TONE f.e. or as a domestique in a TTT. He's not a great rider by any means, but could be trained very useful with f.e. 78COB. I am very happy to have Bouglas back too. Last time I had him he did really well.
@cunego59
- Thanks. Yeah a bit of a mistake got squeezed in there. It may have been a suggestion for next season 
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| SotD |
Posted on 23-08-2022 21:11
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Another rider have been brought in. This time it's one of the fan favorites
 | Miltiadis Kiriakidis | 4.100 | 25yo | Stage Racer | €150.000 |
| Fl | Mo | Hi | TT | St | Rs | Rc | Co | Sp | Ac | Fi | Dh | Pr | | 68 | 74 | 73 | 76 | 72 | 73 | 74 | 62 | 63 | 71 | 70 | 73 | 76 |
Fully maxed Kiriakidis have turned 25 years old, and is ready to take a much bigger role in the team. We don't expect him to win races, but we expect him to put a new level to his performances and take up responsibility within the team. We have great plans for this GC talent with a strong TT skill. 5 seasons of training eligebility means that in theory he can move 10 stat points up. This could see him at 84MO in an extreme setup.
More likely though is it that he will be built to become a very strong timetriallist, but we want the climbing stat to follow. Maybe towards 77-78. If we decide to do heavy investment in Kiriakidis this could amount to 78MO, 82TT. In order to become a Grand Tour rider we would have liked to see a bigger engine, but he has the whole package in terms of development. Heck - he could even end up with 83HI.
Let's see what the future holds - but this is one of the future greats of greek cycling. That much is certain!
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 23-08-2022 21:26
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Thought about overbidding you on Vine, he's a great buy. Those Greeks obviously are amazing and cheap, will be interesting to follow how invested you really are in Greek and Cypriot cycling.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 23-08-2022 21:26
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Thought about overbidding you on Vine, he's a great buy. Those Greeks obviously are amazing and cheap, will be interesting to follow how invested you really are in Greek and Cypriot cycling.
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 23-08-2022 21:51
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Very interesting project! Will be cool to see Greece gradually rise in the cycling world.
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| SotD |
Posted on 24-08-2022 08:09
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We want to welcome yet another greek rider to the team
| | Ioannis Spanopoulos | 4.100 | 29yo | Stage Racer | €100.000 |
| Fl | Mo | Hi | TT | St | Rs | Rc | Co | Sp | Ac | Fi | Dh | Pr | | 69 | 76 | 74 | 72 | 73 | 72 | 70 | 54 | 60 | 64 | 66 | 62 | 73 |
Ioannis Spanopoulos is a very solid rider and a very versatile GC rider from greek standards. Due to his age Spanopoulos is seen as a luxury team member, but we do in fact have some plans to enhance his capabilities in order to make the most of his qualities. We would have hoped to land him on a smaller contract, but 100K is still within the acceptable level for us. And with the future added training he will likely be worth that amount.
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| SotD |
Posted on 24-08-2022 10:07
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Our final offer in the Free Agency pool have come to a closure.
 | Emmanuel Morin | 4.00 | 27yo | Puncheur | €50.000 |
| Fl | Mo | Hi | TT | St | Rs | Rc | Co | Sp | Ac | Fi | Dh | Pr | | 70 | 64 | 76 | 63 | 74 | 72 | 67 | 63 | 69 | 75 | 66 | 67 | 65 | | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | | | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | | | 70 | 65 | 78 | 63 | 75 | 73 | 68 | 63 | 69 | 76 | 67 | 67 | 65 |
A big and warm welcome to Emmanuel Morin, who joins on minimum wage. We were rather certain that a number of teams would pick up this young talented frenchie who will maxe next season at 78HI, while also having a very strong acceleration, stamina and decent resistance. He's the perfect attacking puncheur, and a very well equiped lieutenaint for the long endurant races aswell.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 24-08-2022 11:07
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Just here to throw support at a well defined and relatively committed regional project. Plus for slipping Morin past the new French teams unnoticed!
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| SotD |
Posted on 27-08-2022 12:00
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All good things must come to an end. And we knew it was this way things were going. Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier left the team this season as part of the sponsorstop of the Festina-brand. The french superstar joined the team as a level 1 rider, and since then it has been going one way only. Up.
During his time in our team he has won the U25 competition in all Grand Tours, and since grew to win 2/3 Grand Tours inside the team. The Vuelta a España 2020 and the Tour de France 2021. He also holds the best GC Giro d'Italia of the team of all time, when he was 4th back in 2018, where he also claimed his first ever stagewin in the teams color.
The year before he helped Simon Spilak to win the Tour de France, while winning the U25 competition himself. Lecuisinier has been a vital part of the teams growth from a decent Pro Tour setup to a very dominant one. During his time in the team he received the biggest training fees of all riders in the history of the team when he moved from 81MO to 85MO over the course of 4 seasons. An investment that costed a grand total of 8,7mio. Easily one of the highest ever fees invested into a single rider - if not the highest!
That said we had made an agreement with Pierre-Henri that last season would be his last, and when our good colleagues from Evonik-ELKO offered 4,3mio + William Chiarello for his and lieutenaint David de la Cruz' signature we had to accept. if not the biggest ever transaction in the history of the game then atleast very close to.
To develop a recordman like this, has been a great pleasure and a joy ride. We can only wish him and his new team all the best, and we hope to see him making the Grand Tour treble at one time in his career - but at the very least keeping his track-record of 1 Grand Tour win pr. season which could culminate into a grand total of 7 if he can do so every season up until after his first decrease. This would definately put him into the book of records next to the likes of Damiano Cunego (7) and even ahead of legendary Andy Schleck (6), Rein Taaramae (4), Simon Spilak (3), Aleksandr Pluchkin (3) and Angel Madrazo (3). By making all 3 Grand Tours he would also join a very small club including Andy Schleck, Rein Taaramae and Aleksandr Pluchkin.
Godspeed my friend!
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 27-08-2022 12:10
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Certainly a difficult goodbye to a very treasured rider who has no doubt cemented his name in MG history whilst playing a big part in the Festina name also being one to remember for years to come.
Ultimately, he had to go given your plans for the team, but glad you are looking forward both for him personally (with the potential records) and what this means for the team this year and moving forward.
Lovely write up
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| knockout |
Posted on 27-08-2022 12:14
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From ELCO to ELKO, we will try to continue his quest for history. Hope some of your wishes for his future will already be fulfilled in the near future.
Thanks for the deal, i think we found ourself a good win-win situation here that will benefit both of our longterm goals.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 27-08-2022 12:44
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Always love your history posts and a great write-up to mark the end of the PHL era. Can't imagine how hard it is to let a guy go that you've raised from Level 1 through training to winning his and the team's home Grand Tour, hope like you his journey can continue and he can keep doing you proud 
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| SotD |
Posted on 27-08-2022 13:06
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@Croatia
Thanks - Yeah I'm pretty happy about Vine. A couple of years younger wouldn't have been bad though
I think I'm invested in way over my head tbh. I have my fingers crossed this season won't mean relegation, because that would be devastating for the future plans.
@DubbelDekker
Thanks. Yeah I kinda am looking forward to it aswell... A few more maxed out greeks wouldn't have been a bad thing. It's still difficult to feat a race with only greeks unfortunately. Will be better though.
@TheManxMissile
Thank you very much - I think Morin slipped past because of his development level. To pick him up and immidiately loan him out is likely not a top priority to CT teams. Still would have expected someone else to atleast pick him. He's not all that bad.
@Luis Leon Sanchez
Yeah it was the single most difficult decision I have made in the Man-Game. I have had a lot of treasured riders but no one like Lecuisinier. He was THE project for many seasons. I'm atleast somewhat happy that I can postpone a complete farewell to also Coquard and Koretzky who have been with me for the same period of time. Thanks for the kind words too.
@knockout
I agree. From the perspective that we both needed a drastic change for the long term plans it was indeed a good deal. I just hope it won't relegate me
@jandal7
Thanks mate. I appreciate that. It was indeed not the easiest decision - But the right one I think. Or well, a needed one atleast - From a selfish perspective the best solution would have been to keep him this season and then sell him next season where I have more prolific talents ready for training, but I felt like it was a good way to kickstart the project to actually lift some of those lesser talents so they wouldn't be stuck forever. Could maybe be an eye-opener aswell if one or two of them suddenly shows a whole new level and not just scores 50 points more than last season.
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| SotD |
Posted on 29-08-2022 08:02
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The transferseason is coming to an end, and here at ELCO - ABEA it is also the final finetuning we are tumbling with. We want to welcome three more riders. Riders we personally think holds potential for even more, than they are currently showcasing. We want to help them further develop with some micromanagement, so they can get to their top level.
 | Jean Bosco Nsengimana | 4.01 | 30yo | Stage Racer | €50.000 |
| Fl | Mo | Hi | TT | St | Rs | Rc | Co | Sp | Ac | Fi | Dh | Pr | | 65 | 72 | 71 | 72 | 71 | 70 | 72 | 53 | 66 | 72 | 74 | 66 | 74 | | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | | | | | | ↓↓↓ | | 65 | 74 | 72 | 74 | 72 | 71 | 74 | 53 | 66 | 72 | 74 | 66 | 76 |
Eventhough Nsengimana is among the oldest members of our team we still feel like he have some development left. And with 31yo next season he will also have a couple of seasons to prove it. He's is already a well rounded domestique that can aid us in TTT's aswell as the mountains, and as we do have a fair bit of TTT this season his quality is very welcome.
 | Lorenzo Delco | 4.00 | 27yo | Allrounder | €50.000 |
| Fl | Mo | Hi | TT | St | Rs | Rc | Co | Sp | Ac | Fi | Dh | Pr | | 71 | 71 | 72 | 69 | 74 | 73 | 74 | 66 | 63 | 71 | 66 | 76 | 70 | | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | | 73 | 72 | 73 | 70 | 75 | 74 | 75 | 67 | 64 | 72 | 68 | 77 | 71 |
Lorenzo Delco is one of those riders that can do it all. He doesn't particularly excel anywhere, but he is a fairly strong allrounder, and don't we all love those riders that will maxe with 70 or close to in all stats? Delco is one of those riders. To add to that he also has a super strong engine, that will ensure him to keep his level intact whether you throw him into a 250km one day race or a Grand Tour.
 | Joshua Kelly | 4.00 | 26yo | Allrounder | €50.000 |
| Fl | Mo | Hi | TT | St | Rs | Rc | Co | Sp | Ac | Fi | Dh | Pr | | 72 | 66 | 72 | 72 | 68 | 72 | 59 | 60 | 70 | 71 | 72 | 62 | 74 | | ↓↓↓ | | | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | ↓↓↓ | | | | ↓↓↓ | | ↓↓↓ | | 73 | 66 | 72 | 74 | 69 | 74 | 60 | 60 | 70 | 71 | 73 | 62 | 76 |
Similar to Nsengimana Kelly is a very strong timetrialist and a prologue specialist. But while Nsengimana is more of an uphill rider, Kelly features some of the qualities of Delco with a solid flat and hill composition. Kelly is also a very strong finisher and could even prove capable of winning stages. As opposed to the former two, Kelly is not a Grand Tour rider though, but enjoys oneday races and week long GC races.
Edited by SotD on 29-08-2022 10:36
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| Nemolito |
Posted on 29-08-2022 09:45
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Three sprinters with the ability to score big, Koretzky, Chiarello, Vlatos, very solid Greek depth with obviously monster training incoming... Why should we even talk about relegation when a top-10 or better is on the table? Congratulations on a great part 1 of the big reform
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 29-08-2022 09:53
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Very happy to see some Rwandans being signed and developed outside of our own team Will be following closely to see if he can register one or two highlight performances. The flag code for Barbados is BB, btw.
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 29-08-2022 09:57
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Great to see that someone takes care of Delco to finally max him
I'm just a bit reluctant to signing Lvl4 riders knowing that I have to loan them out, so really glad you do Swiss cylcing that favor We'll talk in a year for sure
Otherwise, I second Nemo's opinion that you should quite easily stay up. It would have been a different thing if you had also sold Koretzky and Coquard, but with Chiarello coming in and some Greeks definitely able to score well in PT, I don't see you go down. Well done, looking forward to part 2 of the rebuild - hopefully I'll enter the race for your "giveaways" then
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| SotD |
Posted on 29-08-2022 11:05
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@Nemolito
I sure hope you are right. Looking at the other teams around I can't see us scoring a PT top 10 though. We would really need every leader and subleader of the team to perform in order to do so. Relegation hopefully can be out of the question.
@cunego59
I'm glad to hear you appreciate the development of Nsengimana. I think he's way too good to just always sit there at level 4 unmaxed
Thanks for the flag code
@Fabianski
It was about time. He has some very nice fighter stats. I fully get that it sucks to pick up riders just to loan them out - in particular at lower level where the wage cap isn't big. Feel free to contact me next season.
I hope you guys are right. I do see us somewhere around 10-relegation. I don't think we can break into the top 10, and I don't initially think we will relegate, but sometimes very big teams end up in the swamp, if their top guys don't perform.
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