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| quadsas |
Posted on 24-11-2020 20:25
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So yeah, of course Stage 3 just plays out completely different from past two editions, what a waste of 3RDs
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 24-11-2020 20:31
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Well, we didn't win the race (our goal), but two stage wins, Top 3 GC, winning the Points classification (the second time the team wins it after Panayotov in 2018) and 2nd in KOM - that's a nice haul for Preidler. Shame that he sucks at TT - his achiles. And Konig didn't fare bad either - even though he was a long shot for the podium (and my insurance policy), 9th is still great.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 24-11-2020 21:21
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Congrats to ivaneurope and Abhishek for some awesome races!
quadsas wrote:
So yeah, of course Stage 3 just plays out completely different from past two editions, what a waste of 3RDs
you got a pretty decent result with Zahni, so be happy...tbh it was almost more than to be expected from your line-up imo
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 24-11-2020 21:29
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And here's the MGUCI points (if the calculations are right, hehe) that the riders have earned from the Hong Kong Challenge
| Rank | Rider | Team | S1 | S2 | S3 | OVL | Total | | 1 | Georg Preidler | Adastra N Hell Energy Cycling | 29 | 3 | 20 | 98 | 150 | | 2 | Tom Jelte Slagter | Campari Asahi Procycling | 16 | 3 | 4 | 99 | 122 | | 3 | Wilco Kelderman | Philips | 3 | 6 | 1 | 111 | 121 | | 4 | Mark Padun | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | 4 | 0 | 12 | 76 | 92 | | 5 | Joseph Areruya | Xero Racing | 8 | 2 | 2 | 63 | 75 | | 6 | Ion Izagirre | Polar | 0 | 1 | 0 | 44 | 45 | | 7 | Mattia Cattaneo | MOL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 38 | 38 | | 8 | Muhamma Afif Ahmad Zamri | DK - SVA Zalgiris | 0 | 0 | 0 | 35 | 35 | | 9 | Leopold Konig | Adastra N Hell Energy Cycling | 2 | 0 | 0 | 29 | 31 | | 10 | Eddie Dunbar | Repsol - Netflix | 0 | 0 | 0 | 28 | 28 | | 11 | Adam Yates | Farfetch Pro Cycling | 1 | 0 | 6 | 20 | 27 | | 12 | Yoann Paillot | Farfetch Pro Cycling | 0 | 4 | 0 | 21 | 25 | | 13 | Damien Howson | Duolingo | 0 | 21 | 0 | 3 | 24 | | 14 | Nicholas Schultz | BNZ Cycling Team | 0 | 0 | 0 | 20 | 20 | | 15 | Thomas Faiers | Nordstrom - CA Technologies | 0 | 0 | 0 | 15 | 15 | | 16 | Morne Van Niekerk | Xero Racing | 0 | 12 | 0 | 1 | 13 | | 17 | Sindre Skjostad Lunke | Tryg - Ritter Sport | 0 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 12 | | 17 | Nandra Eko Wahyudi | Guave's Sunlight Cycling | 3 | 3 | 0 | 6 | 12 | | 19 | Johan Esteban Chaves | Azteca - NBCSN | 0 | 0 | 3 | 8 | 11 | | 19 | Stefan Denifl | DK - SVA Zalgiris | 0 | 0 | 0 | 11 | 11 | | 21 | Tony Gallopin | Bakkafrost | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 10 | | 22 | Stanislau Bazhkou | Xero Racing | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 9 | | 23 | Magnus Cort Nielsen | Tryg - Ritter Sport | 1 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 8 | | 23 | Robin Carpenter | DK - SVA Zalgiris | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 8 | | 25 | Ryan Mullen | Polar | 0 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 6 | | 26 | Milos Borisavljevic | Aramco DP | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 5 | | 26 | Estifanos Kebede | Campari Asahi Procycling | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 5 | | 26 | Michel Ries | Tryg - Ritter Sport | 1 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 5 | | 29 | Youcef Reguigui | Project: Africa | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 4 | | 29 | Artem Topchanyuk | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 4 | | 29 | Ingvar Omarsson | Valio - Viking Genetics | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 4 | | 29 | Xandro Meurisse | Xero Racing | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 4 | | 33 | Daniel Hoelgaard | Tryg - Ritter Sport | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | | 33 | Rasmus Sterobo | Campari Asahi Procycling | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 3 | | 33 | Hugo Houle | Xero Racing | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | | 33 | Jamalidin Novardianto | Xero Racing | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | | 37 | Bjorn Tore Hoem | Tryg - Ritter Sport | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | | 37 | Adam De Vos | Nordstrom - CA Technologies | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | | 37 | Odd Christian Eiking | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | | 37 | Michael Storer | Philips | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | | 37 | Cristian Rodriguez | Repsol - Netflix | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | | 37 | Yevgeni Nepomnyachsniy | Swisslion Cycling Team | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | 37 | Jan Drago Petelin | DK - SVA Zalgiris | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | | 37 | Egidijus Juodvalkis | DK - SVA Zalgiris | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | | 45 | Carl Fredrik Hagen | Guave's Sunlight Cycling | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 45 | Alberto Bettiol | Farfetch Pro Cycling | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 45 | Oleksandr Prevar | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 45 | Joni Kanerva | Valio - Viking Genetics | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 45 | Gino Mäder | Centovalli - Fiat | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 45 | Samuel Pokälä | Valio - Viking Genetics | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 45 | Nicola Conci | Aramco DP | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 45 | Volodymyr Dzhus | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 45 | Jefferson Alexander Cepeda | Azteca - NBCSN | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 45 | Mikhail Kochetkov | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
Edited by ivaneurope on 24-11-2020 21:38
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| Guave |
Posted on 24-11-2020 21:38
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Well, that must have been some of the strangest tactics ever seen in PCM. That's really a missed opportunity. Winning the KoM would have really surprised us pleasantly, but it wasn't to be. Congrats IvanEurope, Preidler didn't win, but to me he was the most impressive rider out there.
PS: why only 1 point for Wahyudi on the second stage?
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 24-11-2020 21:39
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Guave wrote:
Well, that must have been some of the strangest tactics ever seen in PCM. That's really a missed opportunity. Winning the KoM would have really surprised us pleasantly, but it wasn't to be. Congrats IvanEurope, Preidler didn't win, but to me he was the most impressive rider out there.
PS: why only 1 point for Wahyudi on the second stage?
I've noticed that and is fixed 
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 24-11-2020 21:45
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One point. That's not what we aimed at. Moscon did well 2 stages out of 3, but the first one just broke his race. Had he been in the pack (what realistically should have been the case), he'd be around 15th now. But well... At least, we now know that we don't have a rider suited to this course (or none that PCM likes; looking at who I have and who did better there surely are fitting riders), so definitely won't come back here with a similar roster.
Congrats to Abhi, I've got no clue how Kelderman could keep up on stage 3, but he somehow did. Kind of a "Holloway day" I guess And I'm pretty sure Moscon can almost keep up with Wilco on a normal day, so that should fare well for the rest of the season. But scoring more points in a cobbled race than in Hong Kong with that roster should never happen.
Thanks for the reports, Marco, great job 
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 24-11-2020 21:45
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Meh. We Movistared that last stage.
Thank you for the report and congratz to the Phillips squad on the win
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 24-11-2020 21:52
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And here's the teams' points tally from the 3-day race
| Rank | Team | Points | | 1 | Adastra N Hell Energy Cycling | 181 | | 2 | Campari Asahi Procycling | 130 | | 3 | Philips | 123 | | 4 | Xero Racing | 107 | | 5 | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | 99 | | 6 | DK - SVA Zalgiris | 58 | | 7 | Farfetch Pro Cycling | 53 | | 8 | Polar | 51 | | 9 | MOL | 38 | | 10 | Repsol - Netflix | 30 | | 10 | Tryg - Ritter Sport | 30 | | 12 | Duolingo | 24 | | 13 | BNZ Cycling Team | 20 | | 14 | Nordstrom - CA Technologies | 17 | | 15 | Guave's Sunlight Cycling | 13 | | 16 | Azteca - NBCSN | 12 | | 17 | Bakkafrost | 10 | | 18 | Aramco DP | 6 | | 18 | Valio - Viking Genetics | 6 | | 20 | Project: Africa | 4 | | 21 | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | 2 | | 21 | Swisslion Cycling Team | 2 | | 23 | Centovalli - Fiat | 1 |
Nemolito's Los Pollos Hermanos was the only team that failed to score a single point from this race
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| Nemolito |
Posted on 24-11-2020 21:56
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ivaneurope wrote:
Nemolito's Los Pollos Hermanos was the only team that failed to score a single point from this race
Scoring points is overrated. Thank you for the reports Marco, and congratz to Abhishek and Ivan indeed
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 24-11-2020 22:31
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Borges drowning in that sea of wheels was reminiscent of Avelino's backwards sprints. Too bad he couldn't come up with a decent result there. Howson saved this race for us even though that was a very slim points haul.
Sensational race for Preidler with 2 victoies in 3 stages. Great to see Kelderman back to his true level, congrats Abi!
Thanks for all the reports MArco!
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 24-11-2020 22:39
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Terrible race for us but at least we aren’t leaving empty handed. Great KOM win for Schultz. Still a race to forget.
Congrats to the winner and thanks for the great reports!!
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 24-11-2020 22:58
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Could have been better, but quite happy with Dunbar's Top10. Finally he's able to produce some results on his own, a good sign of better things to come this season and specially next when maxed. Totally forgot though that he's U25 eligible, so now a bit disappoiting to have both Padun and Areruya beating him for it 
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 25-11-2020 03:17
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Didn't expect that to be honest! Came in to this race hoping to win the first stage and then holding on for a Top 10 GC or so. But a GC win is incredible! This is also only our second stage race win ever, and the first since our first season. Good ride from Storer as well picking up 4th in the U25s. Tough luck to jandal just missing out on the win in that classification, but Padun was just too strong on the final stage.
Congrats to Ivan too on a great race and Tamijo should be happy with that as well. Thanks for the reports Marco
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 25-11-2020 03:22
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Not sure what to make of the final stage and our tactics, if Meurisse and Areruya split up that's stupid but a chance it was a leadout gone wrong which would be fine. A good effort from our squad in the end to win the Teams Classification as well as Areruya with a credible top 5, super frustrating to lose the U25 win (and 4th) in that way but would have absolutely taken this before the race. 100 points for three days in what looked like one of our least assured-of-scoring races on the calendar is very nice indeed. Thanks for the reports Marco and congrats Abhi, love to see you win
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| quadsas |
Posted on 25-11-2020 10:09
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Croatia14 wrote:
Congrats to ivaneurope and Abhishek for some awesome races!
quadsas wrote:
So yeah, of course Stage 3 just plays out completely different from past two editions, what a waste of 3RDs
you got a pretty decent result with Zahni, so be happy...tbh it was almost more than to be expected from your line-up imo
not sure how 50 points is expected when race has been proven to be a climbers race first of all, and both Cattaneo and Denifl had a relative stinker. I think it's fairly reasonable to be disappointed with such results
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 25-11-2020 11:55
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Great race for us surely
Congrats to Abhishek win a super result here.
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| Sykkel_Freak |
Posted on 25-11-2020 14:03
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I'll take a 15th place in the GC, but a very anonymous race from us. Gallopin did okay, but a little bit disappointed with Uwizeyimana and Vichot has not had a good start to the season at all. Need to improve in Catalunya.
Congrats to abhi and thanks for the reports!
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| knockout |
Posted on 27-11-2020 09:36
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A bit late to the party but i enjoyed how the Conglomerate teams delivered here. Kelderman proving he is still damk strong while Areruya delivering a big sign of strength too. The future is now for him 
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