TheManxMissile wrote:
Results wise it's clearly Armstrong. You don't win 7 tdfs if you are not among the very very elite of all time.
Armstrong has not won any TdF.
Well, he won 7 TDF, he just doesn't have any TDF title
slight difference, but important.
Like Schleck has 1 TDF title, but hasn't won a TDF. Contador actually won 3 TDF, but only has 2 to his credit.
Try explaining cycling to someone with this shit
Ah the way I look at it Contador crossed the line first 3 times in the TDF and Schleck has won 1 TDF, just like Armstrong crossed the line first in 7 TDF's but "void" has won 7 TDF's..........
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Talking about shit, i refuse to even call that piece of shit from Texas a sportsman. Mobster is a better suited title for him and he does not have any Tour titles, which means he does not won any.
Cheating and bullying yourself to victory is not a winning in my eyes.
Arguably true
Though he was on the podium in Paris, and for most riders, this seems to be winning a Tour. Except for Schleck, who was only too happy to accept his victory
Schleck stated that he didn't care about the win and wanted to do it properly.
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Talking about shit, i refuse to even call that piece of shit from Texas a sportsman. Mobster is a better suited title for him and he does not have any Tour titles, which means he does not won any.
Cheating and bullying yourself to victory is not a winning in my eyes.
Arguably true
Though he was on the podium in Paris, and for most riders, this seems to be winning a Tour. Except for Schleck, who was only too happy to accept his victory
Schleck stated that he didn't care about the win and wanted to do it properly.
More recently Schleck's said "I regret not standing on the top of the podium but I now realise that was my Tour". Of course you can speculate whether he just didn't get caught...
Quote taken from Ed Pickering's book The Yellow Jersey Club - btw the book is a fascinating window into Tour winners from Thevenet to Nibali. Schleck is one of the most interesting - he even got a a rare apology out of Armstrong in his hey day.
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Talking about shit, i refuse to even call that piece of shit from Texas a sportsman. Mobster is a better suited title for him and he does not have any Tour titles, which means he does not won any.
Cheating and bullying yourself to victory is not a winning in my eyes.
Arguably true
Though he was on the podium in Paris, and for most riders, this seems to be winning a Tour. Except for Schleck, who was only too happy to accept his victory
Schleck stated that he didn't care about the win and wanted to do it properly.
More recently Schleck's said "I regret not standing on the top of the podium but I now realise that was my Tour". Of course you can speculate whether he just didn't get caught...
Quote taken from Ed Pickering's book The Yellow Jersey Club - btw the book is a fascinating window into Tour winners from Thevenet to Nibali. Schleck is one of the most interesting - he even got a a rare apology out of Armstrong in his hey day.
Didn't see that, good that he is happy with it.
That book sounds very interesting, I really love books about cycling history, I'll look into getting a copy.
ianrussell wrote:
More recently Schleck's said "I regret not standing on the top of the podium but I now realise that was my Tour". Of course you can speculate whether he just didn't get caught...
Quote taken from Ed Pickering's book The Yellow Jersey Club - btw the book is a fascinating window into Tour winners from Thevenet to Nibali. Schleck is one of the most interesting - he even got a a rare apology out of Armstrong in his hey day.
Didn't see that, good that he is happy with it.
That book sounds very interesting, I really love books about cycling history, I'll look into getting a copy.
I don't read that many cycling books but it is an interesting insight and with each winner only getting 10-20 pages you can dip in and out of it too.
Just read Indurain, whom I remember stoically climbing like an android from my childhood. It reminds me quite how dominant he was in the TT and that he weighed nearly 80kg (hard to imagine with current skeletal GC riders) yet could climb with the best. His resting heart rate was 28 and VO2 max 88 - a powerful beast of a man, a cyborg like combination of immense physical abilities inflated by immense chemical assistance - frightening...
