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TdF'13 Stage 20 - Annecy to Annecy-Semnoz (July 20)
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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-07-2013 08:05
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ruben wrote:
[quote] issoisso wrote:
Lulu. Sánchez is Samuel 
Still you are suprisingly bad informed. It was Blanco/Belkin that actually kept LLS out of racing as soon as they knew of the new investigations.
They were however FORCEd to put him in race when LLS sued the team and won the case.
So it's kinda hilarious you blame them for fielding him when they had no choice.[/quote
I know very well what happened. Any team with decency would've fired him.
Actually any team with decency would've never hired him, but that was different management.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 20-07-2013 09:16
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issoisso wrote:
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Belkin getting annoyed and calling out Spanish riders for bb mondays
Hooray for hipocrisy
EDIT: To explain. They have a spanish guy on their team who is named in two different doping investigations and they let him race despite the MPCC asking them not to. Yet they complain about other teams' BBMs.
Also, no complaints about the british, the colombians, the czech, the danish, etc. Nope, just the spanish.
Sure sure, dutch fans come in here and tell me how i'm 'hating' Belkin. Fact is Verhoeven is being a hypocrite.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 20-07-2013 09:46
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issoisso wrote:
ruben wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Lulu. Sánchez is Samuel
Still you are suprisingly bad informed. It was Blanco/Belkin that actually kept LLS out of racing as soon as they knew of the new investigations.
They were however FORCEd to put him in race when LLS sued the team and won the case.
So it's kinda hilarious you blame them for fielding him when they had no choice.
I know very well what happened. Any team with decency would've fired him.
Actually any team with decency would've never hired him, but that was different management.
But, wouldn't Lulu just sue Belkin again if they fired him? I mean, he has a contract there and there is no overwhelming proof of his ties with Fuentes (yet). I believe the case is still researched, no? |
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-07-2013 11:06
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Indeed, they would not have grounds to fire him on and would have to pay major fines. Which is a bit much for a (at that time) sponsorless team. Even now with sponsor it's not exactly that easy.
You're underestimating things Isso |
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:10
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issoisso wrote:
Tjoertszc wrote:
dienblad wrote:
Furthermore: still no positive doping tests this Tour!!! Something must be wrong with the system, this is not possible....
Spoiler Really hope that all riders are clean, just being sarcastic...
Only outright idiots who are not on a systematic doping program get caught via contemporary tests during a GT.
Some may be too careless and slip out of competition, but their systems are highly monitored right now.
For the stage tomorrow I see only two outcomes:
1: a sprint between Quintana and Rodriguez
2: a Sky 2-man train with Froome gifting Porte the win
2008. Toughest doping controls ever.
8 positives.
Anyway, I was thinking about something. Evans has been soft pedalling for a few stages to rest up so I wonder if he actually can win the stage.
And I was thinking that because Costa was unceremoniously dropped by the other contenders a few stages ago, but while they keep flogging themselves to the limit, he soft pedalled for two stages and as a result ended up climbing the Croix-Fry faster than they did, so clearly the effect is quite big.
If he can get the right break he might be able to win even if it's not given enough freedom.
Evans won't do a thing. He said yesterday that he went into yesterday's stage already exhausted and is just trying to hang on until Paris. His GT years are now definitely behind him, this previous Giro is most likely his last high result in a GT.
I'd say next year he might pick up a top 10 in the Giro if he rides it, but not the Tour. I think he'll wind up riding to win 1 week races and/or possibly being used as a domestique.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:19
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Anybody know when they're predicted to hit the foot of the final climb? |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:20
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Anybody know when they're predicted to hit the foot of the final climb?
You can't predict the Tour but I guess like 5'o clock? I don't know.. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:22
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Between 16h and 16h30 French time
Edited by Spilak23 on 20-07-2013 12:23
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| kubys |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:22
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Anybody know when they're predicted to hit the foot of the final climb?
If their speed will be in same region like yesterday, then it will be cca like Timo said.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:23
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Anybody know when they're predicted to hit the foot of the final climb?
Somewhere between 16:30 and 17:00 according to the official time schedule.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:27
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Anybody know when they're predicted to hit the foot of the final climb?
Somewhere between 16:30 and 17:00 according to the official time schedule.
Yeah, just found that Thanks y'all. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:46
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here we go..another day. Rolland again at the front after polka-dot..he need to be here..and also need to hope that breakaway guy will win. Other wise Froome collecting to much points at final climb again |
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| romaniangoat |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:48
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Igor Anton attack from peloton.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:48
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No polka dots short for Rolland! |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:48
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Evans' bad form has been diagosed as being caused by gout, arthritis, bad back, poor vision, hearing loss, too few sweats and those gosh-darn kids that keep walking past his property and who needs to learn some respect!
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| kumazan |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:49
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Guido Mukk wrote:
here we go..another day. Rolland again at the front after polka-dot..he need to be here..and also need to hope that breakaway guy will win. Other wise Froome collecting to much points at final climb again
I think it's enough for him if he wins the 1st cat, the 2nd cat and all 3rd cats. Easier said than done though.
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| Tjoertszc |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:53
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kumazan wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
here we go..another day. Rolland again at the front after polka-dot..he need to be here..and also need to hope that breakaway guy will win. Other wise Froome collecting to much points at final climb again
I think it's enough for him if he wins the 1st cat, the 2nd cat and all 3rd cats. Easier said than done though.
It all depends on if we will have a GC stage win battle at Semnoz. 50 points there alone.
Even if Rolland wins everything up until that point, he only gets 21 points. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:55
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Tuft defending his lanterne rouge |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:55
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kumazan wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
here we go..another day. Rolland again at the front after polka-dot..he need to be here..and also need to hope that breakaway guy will win. Other wise Froome collecting to much points at final climb again
I think it's enough for him if he wins the 1st cat, the 2nd cat and all 3rd cats. Easier said than done though.
Winning all the climbs except for Semnoz would give him 21 points, putting him 20 ahead of Froome.
I strongly doubt that's going to be enough. Semnoz gives 50 points to the winner, 40 to 2nd, 32 to 3rd, etc. With Froome very likely to finish top 5, Rolland's chances are small.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:57
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Eurosport idiots again..
Movistar moves at the front..they are thinking that Quintana was trying to get climbers point even yesterday at final climb..and it is also issue now. |
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