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| Deadpool |
Posted on 13-09-2012 23:43
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SportingNonsense wrote:
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I'd be shocked if Contador won the TT, not that much practice coming off the suspension, and a strong field of competition. I wouldn't laugh it off, but he probably wouldn't be in my top 10.
Can you actually name 10 riders you think would beat him?
He is in good enough from to win the Vuelta, and come 2nd in the - albeit hilly - time trial there. And its one of the weaker TT World Champs fields for a number of years - perhaps since Grabsch won.
Looking at the startlist, I'd usually pick the following five to be at his level.
Martin
Froome
Pinotti
Kessiakoff
Larsson
And, depending on form, I could see any of these doing a stronger ride than him:
Durbridge
Grabsch
Malori
Konovalovas
Velits
Brajkovic
Phinney
TJ
Maybe I shouldn't have said tenth...I'd probably have him sixth, after that top five. I still would be shocked if he won though, even with the Cauberg. |
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 13-09-2012 23:44
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Wiggins for the ITT. Vanendert or Rodriguez for the road. One of the schleck brothers could also produce and upset. And RadioShack or Sky for the TTT.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 13-09-2012 23:46
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Jakstar22 wrote:
Wiggins for the ITT. Vanendert or Rodriguez for the road. One of the schleck brothers could also produce and upset. And RadioShack or Sky for the TTT.
Wiggo isn't riding.
Vanendert isn't riding, and Rodriguez might not be the top option on a loaded Spain team that everyone will be marking.
Frank is still in purgatory, and I don't think Andy is back from his injury. If I'm totally wrong and either are riding, they won't be in anything even resembling form.
Both Radioshack and Sky sent B-level teams for the TTT, and although they could manage something, don't look like the favorite. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 13-09-2012 23:46
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Jakstar22 wrote:
Wiggins for the ITT. Vanendert or Rodriguez for the road. One of the schleck brothers could also produce and upset. And RadioShack or Sky for the TTT.
He is not even starting.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 13-09-2012 23:51
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Deadpool wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
I'd be shocked if Contador won the TT, not that much practice coming off the suspension, and a strong field of competition. I wouldn't laugh it off, but he probably wouldn't be in my top 10.
Can you actually name 10 riders you think would beat him?
He is in good enough from to win the Vuelta, and come 2nd in the - albeit hilly - time trial there. And its one of the weaker TT World Champs fields for a number of years - perhaps since Grabsch won.
Looking at the startlist, I'd usually pick the following five to be at his level.
Martin
Froome
Pinotti
Kessiakoff
Larsson
And, depending on form, I could see any of these doing a stronger ride than him:
Durbridge
Grabsch
Malori
Konovalovas
Velits
Brajkovic
Phinney
TJ
Maybe I shouldn't have said tenth...I'd probably have him sixth, after that top five. I still would be shocked if he won though, even with the Cauberg.
Id disagree - I see it as Martin vs Contador. Froome seemed a bit knackered by the end of the Vuelta, else he could be a threat.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 14-09-2012 06:31
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Deadpool wrote:
Looking at the startlist, I'd usually pick the following five to be at his level.
Martin
Froome
Pinotti
Kessiakoff
Larsson
And, depending on form, I could see any of these doing a stronger ride than him:
Durbridge
Grabsch
Malori
Konovalovas
Velits
Brajkovic
Phinney
TJ
Maybe I shouldn't have said tenth...I'd probably have him sixth, after that top five. I still would be shocked if he won though, even with the Cauberg.
I disagree concerning several names on that list.
As SN said, Froome seems to be running out of form at last, so I doubt he'll be a contender.
Larsson hasn't been anywhere near his 2008 level in the longer time trials this year. I'll be surprised if he hits the Top 5. Not sure about Kessiakoff either, since he's not Vuelta / Suisse class in the flatter TTs.
Durbridge, perhaps. Grabsch, Brajkovic, Malori and Konovalovas beating Contador? No way. Especially not the last two. Konovalovas won a Giro TT three years ago thanks to lots of luck, and hasn't got any notable results since.
Phinney and Van Garderen are definitely serious contenders though.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 14-09-2012 06:39
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 14-09-2012 08:42
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I don't know about Kessiakoff, the profile is kinda of hilly, and he can do a good performance. Don't see Grabsch finishing in the top places, the profile is too hard for him. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 14-09-2012 08:56
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Gerdemann still injured.
Fröhlinger will take his place instead. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 14-09-2012 08:56
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Andy confirmed to not ride the Worlds.
Luxembourg
Laurent Didier - Radioshack
Jempy Drucker - Accent Jobs
Ben Gastauer - AG2R
South Africa
Jacques Van Rensburg - MTN-Qhubeka
Reinardt Van Rensburg - MTN-Qhubeka
Jay Thomson - United Healthcare
Switzerland
Michael Alabasini - Orica-Greenedge
Oliver Zaugg - Radioshack
Steve Morabito - BMC
Michael Schär - BMC
Mathias Frank - BMC
Gregory Rast - BMC
Brasil
Rafael Andriato - Farnese Vini
Uruguay
Fabricio Ferrari
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| roturn |
Posted on 14-09-2012 08:58
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This must be the weakest Lux squad for years...
At least since the Schleck/Kirchen period.
Looking forward for Suisse. Without Cancellara it will be completely different but Albasini, Zaugg or Schär can perform well here I guess.
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 14-09-2012 09:00
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Deadpool wrote:
Jakstar22 wrote:
Wiggins for the ITT. Vanendert or Rodriguez for the road. One of the schleck brothers could also produce and upset. And RadioShack or Sky for the TTT.
Wiggo isn't riding.
Vanendert isn't riding, and Rodriguez might not be the top option on a loaded Spain team that everyone will be marking.
Frank is still in purgatory, and I don't think Andy is back from his injury. If I'm totally wrong and either are riding, they won't be in anything even resembling form.
Both Radioshack and Sky sent B-level teams for the TTT, and although they could manage something, don't look like the favorite.
Okay. I didnt see the start list. Does anyone have a link to the start lists?
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| HaRe |
Posted on 14-09-2012 09:37
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https://www.cyclin...d=MjM2NTY=
startlist,
https://www.cyclin...d=MjM2NTk=
startlist for TT
Edited by HaRe on 14-09-2012 09:38
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-09-2012 11:42
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RR: Cavendish, Cummings, Dowsett, Froome, Rowe, Stannard, Swift, Tiernan-Locke, Wiggins
TT: Dowsett, Froome
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| roturn |
Posted on 14-09-2012 11:45
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Wiggins really for RR? Why not TT then? And this is a pretty weird team imo as Cavendish, Stannard, Rowe, Swift will struggle on the climbs. Froome not in form. So I guess it`s all for Tiernan-Locke? |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-09-2012 11:48
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Form reason for Wiggins I think. He can help out a bit in the RR, but probably isnt in the sort of TT-winning form he had earlier in the year anymore.
Though he withdrew from the Tour of Britain today, so maybe wont even do the RR.
I think the main reason Cavendish wants to ride is because he won it last year. The problem is, some of the stupid British media think he has a chance of defending it ... ToB reports full of stuff like 'Cavendish wins as he prepares to defend his World title'
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| roturn |
Posted on 14-09-2012 11:49
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Well, you never know.  |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 14-09-2012 12:10
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roturn wrote:
Well, you never know. Of course, but yesterday he didn't show amazing abilities to hang on over the hills with the best of TOB field, so... |
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 14-09-2012 12:14
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Okay thanks HaRe
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| roturn |
Posted on 14-09-2012 12:14
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Aquarius wrote:
roturn wrote:
Well, you never know. Of course, but yesterday he didn't show amazing abilities to hang on over the hills with the best of TOB field, so...
Was supposed to be irony. 
I have no doubt that Cavendish will be one of the first to be gone/abandon. In especially as he has no Eisel with him. ^^
Edited by roturn on 14-09-2012 12:14
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