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| 9-Ball |
Posted on 11-08-2012 04:59
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Speaking as someone with 'multiple' 'nationalities' and more than two passports, I see no problem in 'ditching', swapping, exchanging or sharing nationalities. After all, it's only a piece of paper stamped by a government one does or does not feel any loyalty to. Much as with a flag or nation as a whole. As a concept I believe Einstein has rather nailed patriotism or nationalism, for those so inclined to consider such:
Spoiler
"I am by heritage a Jew, by citizenship a Swiss, and by makeup a human being, and only a human being, without any special attachment to any state or national entity whatsoever."
"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."
"I am against any nationalism, even in the guise of mere patriotism. Privileges based on position and property have always seemed to me unjust and pernicious, as did any exaggerated personality cult."
Albert Einstein, all.
It seems preposterous to be inclined to support someone because where they were born, simply. It has no bearing on what they're like as a creature, in terms of probability of being more honest, compassionate, intelligent, etc. I could care less if Zroome is British, Kenyan, South African, Martian. None of the above determine what kind of human being he is. Only meeting him and getting under the skin really will show that.
It seems a silly argument you're engaged in, simply.
I still think he's doping though. 
What was that? Favorite riders? Oh yes, Sean Kelly, Stephen Roche, Bjarne Riis and Abdou.
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 11-08-2012 05:15
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Definitely a good approach, that said I'm favoring Phinney (best tweets), Sagan (looks like he is actually having fun most of the time) and Evans (does he ever do anything wrong? Just plain hard working person)
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 11-08-2012 07:56
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Kentaurus wrote:
Definitely a good approach, that said I'm favoring Phinney (best tweets), Sagan (looks like he is actually having fun most of the time) and Evans (does he ever do anything wrong? Just plain hard working person)
Is this a trap?Because Evans used to be a well known moron.
@9Ball: I also had my heroes in 90's , but almost all of them were revealed as cheaters later, or are very suspicious at least.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 11-08-2012 11:03
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For some reason, I've never really been able to bond with any rider. Ever since I first started watching cycling, I've just enjoyed the excitement in itself without cheering for any specific rider.
But obviously I love the few times when there's a Swede performing well, like Kessiakoff's days in Polka Dots in the Tour. Nationality aside I'd have to say that my favourite is Sagan though. Because he's awesome.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 11-08-2012 11:14
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
For some reason, I've never really been able to bond with any rider.
Says the man who nicknamed himself after a pro rider.  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-08-2012 11:16
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9-Ball wrote:
Speaking as someone with 'multiple' 'nationalities' and more than two passports, I see no problem in 'ditching', swapping, exchanging or sharing nationalities. After all, it's only a piece of paper stamped by a government one does or does not feel any loyalty to. Much as with a flag or nation as a whole. As a concept I believe Einstein has rather nailed patriotism or nationalism, for those so inclined to consider such:
Spoiler
"I am by heritage a Jew, by citizenship a Swiss, and by makeup a human being, and only a human being, without any special attachment to any state or national entity whatsoever."
"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."
"I am against any nationalism, even in the guise of mere patriotism. Privileges based on position and property have always seemed to me unjust and pernicious, as did any exaggerated personality cult."
Albert Einstein, all.
It seems preposterous to be inclined to support someone because where they were born, simply. It has no bearing on what they're like as a creature, in terms of probability of being more honest, compassionate, intelligent, etc. I could care less if Zroome is British, Kenyan, South African, Martian. None of the above determine what kind of human being he is. Only meeting him and getting under the skin really will show that.
It seems a silly argument you're engaged in, simply.
I still think he's doping though.
What was that? Favorite riders? Oh yes, Sean Kelly, Stephen Roche, Bjarne Riis and Abdou.
You just absolutely nailed how I feel about countries and nationalities.
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| jokovic |
Posted on 11-08-2012 11:25
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| jokovic |
Posted on 11-08-2012 11:25
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| jokovic |
Posted on 11-08-2012 11:25
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 11-08-2012 11:42
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Aquarius wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
For some reason, I've never really been able to bond with any rider.
Says the man who nicknamed himself after a pro rider.
I was young and stupid back then. 
But seriously, I've always been bad at usernames, so I thought naming myself after a rider would be easy. God, I regret that nowadays. :/
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 11-08-2012 11:54
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issoisso wrote:
9-Ball wrote:
Speaking as someone with 'multiple' 'nationalities' and more than two passports, I see no problem in 'ditching', swapping, exchanging or sharing nationalities. After all, it's only a piece of paper stamped by a government one does or does not feel any loyalty to. Much as with a flag or nation as a whole. As a concept I believe Einstein has rather nailed patriotism or nationalism, for those so inclined to consider such:
Spoiler
"I am by heritage a Jew, by citizenship a Swiss, and by makeup a human being, and only a human being, without any special attachment to any state or national entity whatsoever."
"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."
"I am against any nationalism, even in the guise of mere patriotism. Privileges based on position and property have always seemed to me unjust and pernicious, as did any exaggerated personality cult."
Albert Einstein, all.
You just absolutely nailed how I feel about countries and nationalities.
Me as well, or Einstein did.
Edited by Aquarius on 11-08-2012 11:54
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-08-2012 11:57
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Oh really, Mr. Flag-of-Cournuaille-avatar? 
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| lorymuse |
Posted on 11-08-2012 11:57
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Classics: Sagan
Stage races: Van Garderen
Sprinter: Sagan
Cobbles: Cancellara
TT: Moreno Moser
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| acac |
Posted on 11-08-2012 11:59
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
For some reason, I've never really been able to bond with any rider.
Says the man who nicknamed himself after a pro rider.
I was young and stupid back then.
But seriously, I've always been bad at usernames, so I thought naming myself after a rider would be easy. God, I regret that nowadays. :/ . You are bad at usernames? I just closed my eyes and clicked 4 letters |
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| Londoner |
Posted on 11-08-2012 12:03
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It's got to be the big German! Voigt! |
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| andy222c |
Posted on 11-08-2012 12:17
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I won't be able to pick only one rider, but here's some of those i really like:
Valverde
Roche (Nicolas)
Boasson Hagen
Chavanel
Breschel
Haussler
And by the way ignore my username... I was young and stupid
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 11-08-2012 12:22
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issoisso wrote:
Oh really, Mr. Flag-of-Cournuaille-avatar? How the chuck have you found what flag this is ? 
I know I had to upload it twice, but still, I'm impressed. |
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| Ybodonk |
Posted on 11-08-2012 12:25
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Jan Ullrich was the reason why i started watching cycling back in 96-97. He was like the coolest guy in the peloton Wearing his german national jersey, along nice sunglasses and white nose plaster  And he was the sickest beast in those two years in the climbs and ITT's.
Then i saw Roberto Heras eminent and elegant style of riding. Problably the best climber in 2001-2002. Also the reason why Armstrong signed him. Watching him attack and climb was truly beauty
And then 2003 the year of fireworks and the best TDF in my lifetime.
Iban Mayo with the flamboyant attack and open shirts, backwards cap, and constant desire to attack.
1. Ullrich, Mayo, Heras
2. Contador, Pantani
3. Valverde, Vino
For me these type of guys where all big superstars and had some charisma that we dont see today - sadly.
Furthermore riding without helmet, with different caps, haircuts etc. Did add some more personality to the riders.
For me Contador is the only climber in the peloton ATM to match these riders when it comes to fireworks and amazing attacks. Hope to see more amazing climbers the next years. |
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| Smal |
Posted on 11-08-2012 12:39
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so much irony |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 11-08-2012 12:40
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To answer the topic properly :
My favourite rider from when I started following cycling and until he retired was Greg LeMond.
After digging through cycling history, Anquetil and Rivière were guys I really liked, though Anquetil was dead already.
Then through the years, I liked Mottet, Zülle, L. Jalabert, Boardman, then Jan Ullrich and Erik Zabel. I was also fond of Florian Rousseau (track rider). The more years went by, the less I'd consider myself a fan though. Too much disappointment from most of them. Anquetil was an absolutely disgusting man, Zülle and Ullrich got caught doping, Jalabert wasn't caught but did the same, Zabel confessed. I felt and feel cheated. Rousseau behaved like an asshole when I went for an autograph, etc.
Nowadays, I'm not fan of any pro rider, but I follow some more closely. Riders I've ridden against in youth categories, or more generally local riders.
Then, I get more access to French riders than most people here, through the media, so I may defend them in discussions when they're being bashed for wrong reasons, but I don't really consider myself a fan of any of them. I couldn't care less if they ended 130th, and I'm not going to post dancing bananas smileys anywhere (not even in my mind) if they win a race.
I like Moncoutié (only on the bike) though. |
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