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Smowz' Continental Tour Preview
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| Smowz |
Posted on 05-04-2010 08:31
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Thanks for all the comments guys!
The rankings are going to have be taken with a pinch of salt - I kinda rushed them, I did probably overestimate Bbox and Youtube I agree. I was going to just put them in categories, but I thought that would just be a bit boring so I tried to completely order them!
In terms of the Individual I'll try and have a look at that at another time. Personally I think Ricco may disappoint, I would be slightly concerned about his sprint stat. I can see him losing out on the wins from guys like Pozzato, Ignetiev, Carrara and Schumacher. But it does depend on how he is raced.
If one compares to Ricco to Valverde that is the main difference attacking versus sprinting. I am not sure wich is going to be best.
It would be nice to see a stage racer win the rankings and I note that Taaramee is kinda out on his own in all round ability on Mountains, Hills and Time Trials. Whilst there is a little bit of a lack at these types of races in the HC category on the Continental Tour - he is probably the only rider you can pretty much gaurentee will at the top of races like San Luis and Burgos.
I am interested to see whether the tweeking of the points systems for the difference between winning and second place will effect things. Maybe a rider that gives better value for race days can accumulate more ranking points by quantity rather than quality?
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 05-04-2010 09:53
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If you look at Valverde's results last year he only one 1 small group sprint, and came no where in many others, essentially they are just luck, so who knows what will happen. I think what is more key is the competition, Italy looks very strong this year, so it may be tough for him to win many races.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 05-04-2010 12:08
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3rd. Guess I'd be happy with 3rd now, but come the end of the season, I'd prefer to win the overall 
I'd put Ikea as favourites for the overall. Myself probably as second, and Santander as 3rd. 100% as 4th.
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| rycadinho |
Posted on 05-04-2010 13:42
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Once again nice job doing the preview of all the continental teams Smowz! 
I must say that I'm sure my "old boys" will make one last punch for glory and I'm sure I won't end as number 25. Perhaps my team is pretty old but I'm feeling pretty good about getting some fine results during the season. Bonucci is also strong enough to play with the "big" guys in some of the easier one day classics and he will also be able to beat them in small group sprints
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| Heine |
Posted on 05-04-2010 15:42
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Nice preview 
Hopefully I will manage atleast 5 places higher than your guess, so that I manage the team standing goal ^^ I got a team thats not really made for winning races, but get alot of top 5/10 positions. I think I should be able to get that in nearly all races I participate becuse my riders get more racedays than the biggest stars. Of my good riders I got Vaitkus on 77 avg, the rest of them are 74 or lower
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| arthon |
Posted on 05-04-2010 15:55
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Smowz wrote:
Yauheni Hutarovich: Bulgarian sprinter looking for results
Belarusian.
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| SotD |
Posted on 05-04-2010 17:02
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Heine wrote:
Nice preview
Hopefully I will manage atleast 5 places higher than your guess, so that I manage the team standing goal ^^ I got a team thats not really made for winning races, but get alot of top 5/10 positions. I think I should be able to get that in nearly all races I participate becuse my riders get more racedays than the biggest stars. Of my good riders I got Vaitkus on 77 avg, the rest of them are 74 or lower
More likely top 10 than top 5 I think. Kessiakoff and Rohregger might get a few top 5's but eventhough the stars have fewer racedays they are still there due to the amount of them.
If you look into riders better at what Kessiakoff and Rohregger does there are atleast 25, and dividing them up with amount of racedays and races in the CT you can be quite sure that there are ATLEAST 5 riders with better stats in all mountainous tours than Kessiakoff. Of course that doesn't equal the fact that he won't get into the top 5 in a race or 2, but I would be more than happy having Kessiakoff getting 7th or 8th in most tours he rides, and that doesn't give all that many pts to be honest... Rohregger will get even fewer I suppose. As I see it your high scorers might well be Vaitkus, Brown and Florencio. Vaitkus and Brown because they are most likely in the top 5 compared to their qualities and Florencio because he is very adaptable.
I hope I'm wrong though
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| Thrige |
Posted on 05-04-2010 17:27
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Sadly, I don't think I'll be better than top-20. After my mistake, I have a squad with 720.000€ left in my cap.. Even though that fact doesn't make my team particular worse, it shows how many sucky riders I got...
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 05-04-2010 17:30
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Hmm, your team cant be world class if you got 720k left...
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| Thrige |
Posted on 05-04-2010 17:33
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Waghlon wrote:
Hmm, your team cant be world class if you got 720k left...
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 05-04-2010 17:34
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It cant even be continental class
(seriously, we need to petition for a third division next season)
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| Thrige |
Posted on 05-04-2010 17:36
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Waghlon wrote:
It cant even be continental class
(seriously, we need to petition for a third division next season)
At least there's a possibility for me to promote then |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 05-04-2010 18:01
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Thrige wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
It cant even be continental class
(seriously, we need to petition for a third division next season)
At least there's a possibility for me to promote then
yeah, i think that would be a great idea and give a chance for people to have big aims for the season instead of floating around at the bottom of the continental tour. a continental tour and a pro continental would be really good.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 05-04-2010 18:07
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And horrendously hard work, and lack competition.
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| G_Larsson |
Posted on 05-04-2010 18:08
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Nice preview Smowz !
Would be nice if I could live up to your expectations and finish 2nd. Although I think Wiggle will dominate this year.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 05-04-2010 18:08
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3 divisions? Sorry, thats not going to happen. T
he amount of extra work it entails is too much effort for the gains it might cause. It would mean more teams, and more races, and I would argue more limitations on continental teams. It is possible currently to go from a low ranked continental team, to a potential candidate for promotion - or at least top 10 - in 1 season. Lego are perhaps the best candidate this year (23rd last year, and I expect them to Top 10 this year), but in the past p3druh's team (Now Pearl Adidas) are a great example. In the 2008 season, the team finished 17th out of the 18 CT teams who were active all season. P3druh took over, and in 2009 they promoted - with 2010 seeing them 9th in the ProTour.
Those suggesting a 3rd division are seriously underestimating the work it currently takes for 2 divisions, in my opinion
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| SotD |
Posted on 05-04-2010 18:11
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It would be quite a lot of work yes, and perhaps there should be some kind of regulation as to what types of riders where allowed in the 3rd div. Something like only riders that isn't maxed out, and riders with an AVR of 74 or less...
It would be kinda silly to see Valverde and those likes be riding in the 3rd division. 2nd is low enough for those guys.
But that being said a development league/3rd division is a really good idea which I would fancy a lot...
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 05-04-2010 18:15
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SportingNonsense wrote:
3 divisions? Sorry, thats not going to happen. T
he amount of extra work it entails is too much effort for the gains it might cause. It would mean more teams, and more races, and I would argue more limitations on continental teams. It is possible currently to go from a low ranked continental team, to a potential candidate for promotion - or at least top 10 - in 1 season. Lego are perhaps the best candidate this year (23rd last year, and I expect them to Top 10 this year), but in the past p3druh's team (Now Pearl Adidas) are a great example. In the 2008 season, the team finished 17th out of the 18 CT teams who were active all season. P3druh took over, and in 2009 they promoted - with 2010 seeing them 9th in the ProTour.
Those suggesting a 3rd division are seriously underestimating the work it currently takes for 2 divisions, in my opinion
I don't underestimate the work, I just think it would be good, in my opinion
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| Heine |
Posted on 05-04-2010 18:15
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I would rather then have a U23/espoirs division. fewer races but only allowed to have riders that are under level 4 (or maybe 3?) and then when they reach the level the team can decide if they want to sign them, or let them go into free agent.
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| rycadinho |
Posted on 05-04-2010 18:17
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I think it's more than fine to have "only" the protour and the continental tour since it's pretty realistic. You can almost say that there are two divisions in one in the continental tour, since there are many different targets for each teams. Some are looking for a promotion, others to break into the top 10, top 15 or just trying to establish themselves to the game.
Having 29 teams, or how many we are, also makes sure that most of the races are not lacking too many teams.
There is also much more prestige in being part of the best 10 continental teams, when there are so many teams in the division
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