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PCMdaily DB Stat Discussion
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| Silvio Herklotz |
Posted on 16-09-2014 15:20
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matt17br wrote:
Greipel is one of the best sprinters but in the last years he is focusing himself on the smaller races. He often wins bigger races but not enough to give him 82.
Yeah 81 is enough, I think so, too.
The reason why is riding small races is his team. Lotto usually focuses most on local races in Belgium and the Tour. In Le Tour he's regularly unlucky, but I would really like to know what he could do if he would ride Giro or Vuelta for once. But it seems very unlikely to happen though...
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 16-09-2014 16:20
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I think the same, Greipel 81 is perfect |
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| toon83 |
Posted on 16-09-2014 17:35
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How about a Hil, Sta, end, rec update for Bouhanni? |
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| Cossack |
Posted on 17-09-2014 09:11
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Lotto needs to improve their leadout train, Greipel relies on it heavily and fairly often we could see them in front with 3-7 km to go, while later they disappeared completely.
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| TheHoeke |
Posted on 17-09-2014 09:20
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What would you give Aru in his most important stats, so he will do the same as irl, but that still doesn't give him him too good stats in career at the same time ?
Is 77 MO too high / low ?
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| Cossack |
Posted on 17-09-2014 11:21
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77 is way too low, 79/80 for him (one point below Purito and Valverde that is).
Edited by Cossack on 17-09-2014 11:21
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| matt17br |
Posted on 17-09-2014 12:05
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toon83 wrote:
How about a Hil, Sta, end, rec update for Bouhanni?
Already done 
@Cossack, yeah 79 will probably be the MO stat for him
Edited by matt17br on 17-09-2014 12:07
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 18-09-2014 13:53
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Mountain:
83: Contador
82: Froome, Nibali
81: Quintana, Valverde
80: RodrÃguez, Aru, Pinot, Peraud
79: Urán, Rolland, Majka, TVG, Bardet
Sprint:
83: Kittel
82: Kristoff, Cavendish
81: Degenkolb, Bouhanni, Greipel
Hills:
83: Valverde, D.Martin,
82: Gerrans, Kwiatkowski, Gilbert
81: RodrÃguez, Moreno
Cobbles:
83: Cancellara
82: Vanmarcke, Terpstra
81: Avermaet, Boonen
Time Trial:
(After world championship)
Based on 2014.
Edited by Arberg27 on 18-09-2014 13:56
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| Selwink |
Posted on 18-09-2014 13:56
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No way Kristoff and Cavendish are equal in a pure sprint. Nor is Degenkolb as fast as Greipel. Kristoff 81, Degenkolb 80. Also, Vanmarcke and Cancellara should be equal on cobbles, with better backup stats for Cance I think.
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 18-09-2014 13:59
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Kristoff very very close to beating Kittel on the Champs-Elysees and had a much better year than Cavendish. Greipel was not good. |
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| kubys |
Posted on 18-09-2014 14:00
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@Arberg27
Huh? Valverde same MO as Quintana?
Die hard fan of Tom Boonen and Quickstep since 2004.
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| matt17br |
Posted on 18-09-2014 14:05
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Arberg27 wrote:
Mountain:
83: Contador
82: Froome, Nibali
81: Quintana, Valverde
80: RodrÃguez, Aru, Pinot, Peraud
79: Urán, Rolland, Majka, TVG, Bardet
Sprint:
83: Kittel
82: Kristoff, Cavendish
81: Degenkolb, Bouhanni, Greipel
Hills:
83: Valverde, D.Martin,
82: Gerrans, Kwiatkowski, Gilbert
81: RodrÃguez, Moreno
Cobbles:
83: Cancellara
82: Vanmarcke, Terpstra
81: Avermaet, Boonen
Time Trial:
(After world championship)
Based on 2014.
I think that you're overrating a bit the surprising guys of 2014...
No way Kristoff can be the same as Cav..
Edited by matt17br on 18-09-2014 14:06
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 18-09-2014 14:11
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I'm afraid I must disagree with each of the lists you made
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 18-09-2014 14:25
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kubys wrote:
@Arberg27
Huh? Valverde same MO as Quintana?
Quintana could not keep up with Aru in the first two weeks in Giro and for example could not run from Uran on Monte Zoncolan. In the Vuelta Valverde was stronger than Quintana. |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 18-09-2014 14:30
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Arberg27 wrote:
kubys wrote:
@Arberg27
Huh? Valverde same MO as Quintana?
Quintana could not keep up with Aru in the first two weeks in Giro and for example could not run from Uran on Monte Zoncolan. In the Vuelta Valverde was stronger than Quintana.
How can you say this after Quintana winning Giro without never losing time from Aru (apart from Montecampione ofc) and retiring from Vuelta only after the 1st week? Valverde was better than him on a HILL.
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 18-09-2014 14:55
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Aru, Uranium and Quintana were almost equally strong in the mountains except on a neutralized descent and Montecampione.
Valverde was stronger than Quintana on 5 km long mountain.
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 18-09-2014 14:59
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matt17br wrote:
I think that you're overrating a bit the surprising guys of 2014...
No way Kristoff can be the same as Cav..
So Andy Schleck 83 mountain ?
Edited by Arberg27 on 18-09-2014 14:59
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| matt17br |
Posted on 18-09-2014 15:01
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Arberg27 wrote:
Aru, Uranium and Quintana were almost equally strong in the mountains except on a neutralized descent and Montecampione.
Valverde was stronger than Quintana on 5 km long mountain.
And what about Quintana's 2013 tour?
@second message from Arberg27, I'm talking about the results between the 2012 and the 2014. No way Schleck can be neither 73 mo.
Edited by matt17br on 18-09-2014 15:03
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 18-09-2014 15:04
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We are in 2014 not 2013! Otherwise Froome 85 mountain  |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 18-09-2014 15:08
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Arberg27 wrote:
We are in 2014 not 2013! Otherwise Froome 85 mountain
C'mon 
We are in 2014, but since this year was full of injuries by the top riders, we HAVE TO take in account past years, and not only 2013.
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