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Avin Wargunnson
roturn wrote:
It says that the Juve players in the CL final 96 were obviously doped on EPO.
The experts say that there is no other explanations of their blood values.
On the diagrams you see obvious jumps on the day of the finale in their hemoglobin value.

Problem is i cant see the diagram, because i cant acces the site, there is some cookies agreemnet and than the link is broken. Smile

Might i ask who did this testing and how he "unofficially" got the blood samples of Juve players, 16 years old?
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 23-05-2013 07:41
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roturn
If I understood and read correctly, some Italian experts had access to the tests from 16 years ago.
 
dienblad
Michael Rasmussen has got a job as commercial director by Christina Watches.....

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Really, nothing to say about this..... Rolling Eyes
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fosforgasXIII
Somehow I really hope there comes a huge doping scandal in some mainstream sports like football, tennis or athletics or so. Then people would finally stop seeing cycling as "the black sheep of sports".
 
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Might i ask who


Sandro Donati, the man who first exposed Conconi, Ferrari and their clients
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fosforgasXIII wrote:
Somehow I really hope there comes a huge doping scandal in some mainstream sports like football, tennis or athletics or so. Then people would finally stop seeing cycling as "the black sheep of sports".


I agree.

We'll see what happens if Fuentes gives away the information he has. Wasn't there talk of him selling it to the highest paying newspaper a while back?

I think the world of sports in general needs to see some major names "taken down". It could be good for the sport to see someone like Barcelona, Juventus, Rafael Nadal, etc. get taken for drugs.

By the way, I am not implying that Nadal is doped, I only used him as an example.
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fosforgasXIII wrote:
Somehow I really hope there comes a huge doping scandal in some mainstream sports like football, tennis or athletics or so. Then people would finally stop seeing cycling as "the black sheep of sports".


Agreed. If so, cycling could even become more popular than it used to be because we do want dopers to be caught.
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fosforgasXIII wrote:
Somehow I really hope there comes a huge doping scandal in some mainstream sports like football, tennis or athletics or so. Then people would finally stop seeing cycling as "the black sheep of sports".

It is happening right now in Australia where there are drug probes into a couple of major sports here that doesn't involve cycling (though they obviously intersect at times). I can assure you that it doesn't help cycling, or at least it hasn't yet, it just makes everyone more sceptical of the various different sports. I'm not sure what will happen long-term but I doubt much will change in the way people look at cycling.
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TheManxMissile
CountArach wrote:
fosforgasXIII wrote:
Somehow I really hope there comes a huge doping scandal in some mainstream sports like football, tennis or athletics or so. Then people would finally stop seeing cycling as "the black sheep of sports".

It is happening right now in Australia where there are drug probes into a couple of major sports here that doesn't involve cycling (though they obviously intersect at times). I can assure you that it doesn't help cycling, or at least it hasn't yet, it just makes everyone more sceptical of the various different sports. I'm not sure what will happen long-term but I doubt much will change in the way people look at cycling.

Must say i agree. It doesn't make people see cycling better, just the other sports worse.
Perhaps if there was a case on the scale of Armstrong that would be different, and if all the Fuentes information was released that could happen two or threefold across many sports. Without that scale case it will take a very long time for attitudes to change. Cycling has been the dirty sport since the 60's in many eyes and it could take that long (40-50years) again until it clears its name to most of the world.
However it is clear that a lot of the animosity against cycling is more denial from the other sports fans. Even when doping cases do appear they are shrugged off as one-offs by the fans, and they can be because there are so few of them.
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Wilier

Edited by Wilier on 23-05-2013 17:38
 
fosforgasXIII
Wilier wrote:


That sounds serious Sad
I hope he gets well soon
 
Miguel98
Wilier wrote:


Read he's life is in no danger. But probably end of carrer for him. Sad
 
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This is so sad for him Sad
 
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Did he have minor or major?
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He's showing signs of paralysis Frown
 
Alakagom
Betancur said his next goals will be Vuelta and Worlds _0_

He will cause some carnage in both. At Vuelta I expect him to take at least few stage wins, although Henao will have a say abut that too.
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SportingNonsense
Frank Schleck was hit by a car today.

Maybe the driver was trying to suggest that he shouldn't be wearing team kit while on a drugs ban?



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baseballlover312
Evans apparently leader for BMC in France.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/evans...s-ochowicz

Don't know whether to believe it or not.
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Well, they've been saying that for months now. After the Giro I find the decision a bit more justified, but I'd still pick Tejay over him.

I guess there's still time for change if Evans can't follow the other favourites. He should be rather tired after a hard Giro.
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Ian Butler
SportingNonsense wrote:
Frank Schleck was hit by a car today.

Maybe the driver was trying to suggest that he shouldn't be wearing team kit while on a drugs ban?




Drugs or no drugs, nobody deserves to get hit by a car Wink
 
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