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Ian Butler |
Posted on 24-01-2013 16:59
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Jesleyh: Suarez took a bad turn himself 11th place isn't so bad, considering his bad-shape start. Stijn was immensely close, but there will be other chances.
Well, Argos is definitely in running for World Tour, but so is another team. More news later
Thanks for following so closely, it's much appreciated!!
Edited by Ian Butler on 24-01-2013 16:59
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Posted on 24-01-2013 18:05
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Transfer News
Hi everyone,
Like we said before, we're currently speaking with a Pro Continental Team. However, other teams have already expressed an interest in acquiring us for their team. In total, four PCT teams have a (potential) offer for us. We're allowed to list them for you. We're not sure yet, so we're open to suggestions from our readers! Individually we had more offers but those four teams are prepared to take the both of us.
1. Team Argos - Shimano
Team: Argos is a Dutch PCT team which exists mostly our of sprinters. Degenkolb and Kittel are the two biggest names. They have a strong sprinting-base, but lack strength in other areas. Argos is almost certain to promote to a Pro Tour status next year.
Future Situation: Being almost certain of Pro Tour status next season, Argos is looking to strengthen the team with young talent from The Netherlands and Belgium. Stijn would be free in the cobbled season and might be a lead-out for stronger sprinters such as Degenkolb and Kittel in other races. Willy would mostly have a free role, since Argos lacks climbers. He would be on his own, though.
Contract Offer: Argos hasn't offered an official contract yet, but unofficialy we would both sign for 1 (trial) year. Stijn at a salary of €3.500, Willy at a €3.000 salary.
Willy's Opinion: Team Argos - Shimano has a lot to offer. The wage is good, compared to the €2.000 now, and we would be part of the World Tour. I would be pretty much on my own in the mountains, but that might be good for my development. I would be able to learn something, leading a stage race.
Stijn's Opinion: First of all, I think it's a wonderful team, with great people. It would certainly be nice to make the move to a Dutch team, where we speak the language fluently. I would be leading the cobbled season almost certainly, based on this year's results. I'm not sure if I could go to a stage race as the main sprinter, though.
Plus Side
Willy would get a leading role pretty much anywhere.
We would still be part of the World Tour
Argos is a strong, dependable team, both professionally as financially.
Down Side
No support for Willy in mountains or hills.
No guaranteed sprinter's status for Stijn
Only a one-year contract.
2. Acqua & Sapone
Team: Acqua & Sapone is an Italian-based PCT team. It has some strong climbers and some excellent sprinters, such as Napolitano. Acqua has no riders who can handle cobblestones. They only count half the riders a PCT team is allowed to.
Future Situation: Acqua & Sapone is riding their best season yet and are in direction of promotion to the World Tour. They would love a Pro Tour status and are willing to do almost anything for the chance. So now they're looking intensively for new, international riders. They are mostly interested in Stijn, as their cobbles leader, but are more than prepared to take Willy in the team, to potentially lead some stage races. Besides us, they have showed interest in several Belgian, Dutch, Spanish and German riders.
Contract Offer: Nothing is certain yet, but the offer would be something like this: Both would receive a three-year contract, with a clause that would make us free in case they would lose their Pro Tour status. We would both get a €3.000 salary.
Willy's Opinion: I think Acqua & Sapone is a nice team. There's a lot of talent on the team and I think it's nice that they're prepared to attract international riders because of a promotion to World Tour. I could start in some big races as a free rider, or maybe even a leader.
Stijn's Opinion: Acqua will probably promote, though nothing's sure yet. If they don't promote after all, the contract is tore up. If they would promote, however, I would be able to lead all cobbled races and the Eneco Tour, which would be a major breakthrough for my career.
Plus Side
Guaranteed Free Roles / Leader Roles for both of us.
A good contract, security for three years and a decent salary.
Willy knows the Italian roads pretty well.
Down Side
Not 100% sure to promote, so it's a risky deal.
We don't speak Italian, neither of us.
Not the most beautiful shirts of the peloton!
3. Team Europcar
Team: Team Europcar is our favorite French team, without a doubt. Riders as Rolland and Voeckler are top-riders. Usually they decline a Pro Tour license. However, they are interested in the both of us.
Future Situation: Team Europcar is unlikely to promote, since they don't have the ambition. They're still in doubt, so there's a good chance we'd end up in Pro Continental Tour. However, Team Europcar get most wildcards they request.
Contract Offer: Nothing is confirmed in any way. They have only expressed a mild interest so far. We guess the contract would be short-length and a pretty fair pay.
Willy's Opinion: I would like to ride for Team Europcar, but with riders as Rolland and Voeckler, I'd probably end up in very small races or as a domestique for Rolland.
Stijn's Opinion: It would be great riding alongside Turgot in the cobbled races. I prefer a Pro Tour team, though. But we have to keep our options open.
Plus Side
An interesting team with booming talent.
Either Pro Tour or Wildcards for most races.
A Free Role at the cobbles for Stijn.
Down Side
Only expressed a mild interest so far.
A potential domestique role for Willy.
Probably a PCT Team without PT ambitions.
4. Topsport Vlaanderen - Mercator
Team: Topsport Vlaanderen is a team that takes young Belgian talents under its wings. It invests a lot in good equipment and trainers to give the riders a good start in their careers.
Future Situation: Topsport Vlaanderen will probably always be a PCT team. They have confirmed publicly that they would be happy to receive us both for a year, so we can process everything that's happened, catch our breath and concentrate on cycling again.
Contract Offer: A very concrete offer has already come through, and they gave us a lot of time to think about it. It would be a 1 year contract, with the option to prolong, both at a €2.000 salary.
Willy's Opinion: It's just great that they took the initiative to take us in the team, if we'd like. After all the shit that went down with my "doping", they offered their contract during the investigation, telling me they believe I'm innocent and they wanted to bring me to their team after it all blew over. However, it's unlikely I would enter in a Grand Tour in Topsport Vlaanderen.
Stijn's Opinion: Topsport Vlaanderen would be a great chance to develop our qualitites a year. We would receive wildcards for most of the cobbled races. For me it would be great. The pay isn't as high as other clubs, but we're willing to make the transfer anyway. I'm not in it for the money.
Plus Side
Great , Belgian environment to develop in.
Free Roles at all races.
A steady contract, with option to leave or stay after one year.
Down Side
A Pro Continental Team, so a step down.
Probably no big stage races for Willy
Only €2.000 salary.
Edited by Ian Butler on 24-01-2013 18:16
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Posted on 24-01-2013 18:12
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Easy. Go for Argos.
They will keep riding Pro Tour, the jerseys aren't awful, plenty of opportunities for both, they speak the language, just everything. And if Argos promotes, who says that they won't sign decent climbers? And they already got some guys like Geniez Spoiler Don't know how good he is in your DB though.
+ Both guys are so talented, that Argos would happily renew the contract
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Posted on 24-01-2013 18:14
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Topsport imo is the best team to choose
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Posted on 24-01-2013 18:14
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Jesleyh: Geniez is currently 74 MO and 72 HILL
Argos is definitely considered!
SSJ2Luigi: Topsport was my first thought, but the main thing about Topsport is the lack of big tours. Willy will have to compete in PCT tours instead of Grand Tours or World Tour tours, like Catalunya or so.
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Posted on 24-01-2013 18:16
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Yeah, I don't think Topsport gets more than uhm, 3 wildcards or so...
Edited by Jesleyh on 24-01-2013 18:16
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Posted on 24-01-2013 18:20
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Definetely either Argos or Topsport.
I think a 1-year contract is desirable so that they'll have a chance to move to a bigger team next year if they're ready.
One one hand I would like to see them in the biggest races (Argos) on the other hand they'll probably get more chances to actually win in Topsport.
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Posted on 24-01-2013 18:43
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Argos or topsport for me
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Posted on 24-01-2013 18:54
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Face it, Willy&Stijn need WT races for their development
Edited by Jesleyh on 24-01-2013 18:54
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Posted on 24-01-2013 18:56
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you are only saying that because you want them to ride for a dutch team
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Posted on 24-01-2013 19:06
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
you are only saying that because you want them to ride for a dutch team
Oh really? I thought I was saying that because I want the best for Stijn & Willy
And that the best for them is riding for a Dutch team, is just uhm.. A coincedence
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Posted on 24-01-2013 19:10
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Jesleyh wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
you are only saying that because you want them to ride for a dutch team
Oh really? I thought I was saying that because I want the best for Stijn & Willy
And that the best for them is riding for a Dutch team, is just uhm.. A coincedence
yeah right ...
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Posted on 24-01-2013 19:11
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
you are only saying that because you want them to ride for a dutch team
Oh really? I thought I was saying that because I want the best for Stijn & Willy
And that the best for them is riding for a Dutch team, is just uhm.. A coincedence
yeah right ...
Notice the
But I think it's better to ride WT races than CT races, you can't disagree with me about that
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Posted on 24-01-2013 19:23
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Topsport, stay local!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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Posted on 24-01-2013 20:21
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ARGOS!!!! Best team in the world |
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Posted on 24-01-2013 20:34
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I'd choose Argos or Topsport, but for thge last team i'd sign only for one as Willy won't take part to WT tours... |
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Posted on 24-01-2013 20:39
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Europcar! You love them, I know that and I hope you willl join them! Your riders will fit well in!
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Posted on 24-01-2013 21:03
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Europcar.
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Posted on 24-01-2013 21:11
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Europcar for me. |
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Posted on 24-01-2013 21:37
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ARGOS!!!
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