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Who to expect in the Vuelta?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 14-08-2013 23:43
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IDK what they are thinking for Fernandez. At least Farrar could likely get top 5s.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 14-08-2013 23:47
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Fernadez is Spanish.
Farrar, well I am sure it was his decision too. Riders usually get their big say in what races they like to ride in and target..
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 15-08-2013 00:06
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Alakagom wrote:
Fernadez is Spanish.
Farrar, well I am sure it was his decision too. Riders usually get their big say in what races they like to ride in and target..
Well he obviously didn't want to do any races that matter then. Which makes sense how?
And he isn't going to Colorado. So he is literally doing nothing.
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| jacobjc88 |
Posted on 15-08-2013 00:14
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I think it's a great choice by Farrar. Maybe I'm wrong again, but to me it seems like Farrar tried to become a Classics rider, but in this proces he lost some speed just like Sagan (he didn't win any regular sprint this year in the TdF, last year he beat Greipel as an example). I think Farrar should take focus on the WC or the new season, instead of getting into the fire in the Vuelta. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 15-08-2013 00:26
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jacobjc88 wrote:
I think it's a great choice by Farrar. Maybe I'm wrong again, but to me it seems like Farrar tried to become a Classics rider, but in this proces he lost some speed just like Sagan (he didn't win any regular sprint this year in the TdF, last year he beat Greipel as an example). I think Farrar should take focus on the WC or the new season, instead of getting into the fire in the Vuelta.
He specifically said at the beginning of this season that he was going to try to focus on being a GT sprinter again. Then he doesn't ride a GT.
Doesn't seem right.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 15-08-2013 00:33
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Is he leaving Garmin?
JV hates racing riders who have signed a contract elsewhere.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 15-08-2013 00:35
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Nope. not that i know of.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 15-08-2013 00:49
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baseballlover312 wrote:
jacobjc88 wrote:
I think it's a great choice by Farrar. Maybe I'm wrong again, but to me it seems like Farrar tried to become a Classics rider, but in this proces he lost some speed just like Sagan (he didn't win any regular sprint this year in the TdF, last year he beat Greipel as an example). I think Farrar should take focus on the WC or the new season, instead of getting into the fire in the Vuelta.
He specifically said at the beginning of this season that he was going to try to focus on being a GT sprinter again. Then he doesn't ride a GT.
Doesn't seem right.
As we explained to you before the Tour, you have to earn your spots in GTs unless you are a young rider who needs it to improve. Farrar has not done that and I doubt that he will ever earn a spot at the Tour again.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 15-08-2013 00:52
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CountArach wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
jacobjc88 wrote:
I think it's a great choice by Farrar. Maybe I'm wrong again, but to me it seems like Farrar tried to become a Classics rider, but in this proces he lost some speed just like Sagan (he didn't win any regular sprint this year in the TdF, last year he beat Greipel as an example). I think Farrar should take focus on the WC or the new season, instead of getting into the fire in the Vuelta.
He specifically said at the beginning of this season that he was going to try to focus on being a GT sprinter again. Then he doesn't ride a GT.
Doesn't seem right.
As we explained to you before the Tour, you have to earn your spots in GTs unless you are a young rider who needs it to improve. Farrar has not done that and I doubt that he will ever earn a spot at the Tour again.
So why not release him? he obviously isn't worth a contract so why bother keeping him?
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| CountArach |
Posted on 15-08-2013 00:58
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Because he may have performance based pay. A lot of riders who were great a few years ago accept a large pay cut but get clauses in their contract that give them massive bonuses if they get wins etc. I wouldn't be surprised if Farrar is on that sort of contract
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| CountArach |
Posted on 15-08-2013 01:00
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Oh and vaughters knows the value of having a recognisable American name in his team for the commentators to talk about.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 15-08-2013 01:00
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But it's not worth paying him anything at all if he is uselss?
I still believe he is their best sprinter. And to send so many lesser guys before him is ludicrous.
He can never prove that he can still win sprints if he's never in those kind of sprints!
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| CountArach |
Posted on 15-08-2013 01:03
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baseballlover312 wrote:
But it's not worth paying him anything at all if he is uselss?
I still believe he is their best sprinter. And to send so many lesser guys before him is ludicrous.
He can never prove that he can still win sprints if he's never in those kind of sprints!
Keep in mind that he is also a decent domestique over the flat and in cobbled races. He has his uses. But I think it is primarily the fact that he is probably cheap and also American.
Do you know when his contract expires? He may have signed a four year contract initially.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 15-08-2013 01:38
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If he did then it would have been up after 2011.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 15-08-2013 15:47
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 Team Argos - Shimano
 Nikias Arndt
Johannes Fröhlinger
 Thierry Hupond
Warren Barguil
Ramon Sinkeldam
Tom Stamsnijder
 Tom Peterson
 Georg Preidler
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| Farmer Sam |
Posted on 15-08-2013 15:53
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Garmin Sharp
Caleb Fairly
 Koldo Fernandez
Alex Howes
Michel Kreder
 Dan Martin
 Nick Nuyens
 Alex Rasmussen
Johann Van Summeren
The final place will go to either
Tyler Farrar
or
Robbie Hunter
Interesting team, hope they take Farrar, he's a good chance to take some wins with a lack of a decent sprinting field at the race, real lack of support in the mountains for Dan Martin too. |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 15-08-2013 15:58
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Team Saxo - Tinkoff
Nicki Sørensen
Chris Anker Sørensen
Michael Mørkøv
Nicolas Roche
 Oliver Zaugg
 Evgeni Petrov
 Matteo Tosatto
 Rafal Majka
 Roman Kreuziger |
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 15-08-2013 16:01
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Wilier wrote:
Team Saxo - Tinkoff
Nicki Sørensen
Chris Anker Sørensen
Michael Mørkøv
Nicolas Roche
Oliver Zaugg
Evgeni Petrov
Matteo Tosatto
Rafal Majka
Roman Kreuziger
Wow! Hope that mountain train doesn't get wasted. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 15-08-2013 17:26
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Farmer Sam wrote:
Garmin Sharp
Caleb Fairly
Koldo Fernandez
Alex Howes
Michel Kreder
Dan Martin
Nick Nuyens
Alex Rasmussen
Johann Van Summeren
The final place will go to either
Tyler Farrar
They changed that team alot in a day. Fairly in for Raymond Kreder. Van Summeren for Zabriskie, And they took out Stetina. No surprise since he is leaving.
Farrar could still be in the squad.
or
Robbie Hunter
Interesting team, hope they take Farrar, he's a good chance to take some wins with a lack of a decent sprinting field at the race, real lack of support in the mountains for Dan Martin too.
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| Anderis |
Posted on 15-08-2013 19:37
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real lack of support in the mountains for Dan Martin too.
Howes should be good support based on recent performances.
Van Summeren used to be a good support rider in mountains, but he needs to be back at his 2010 level.
Fairly can climb a bit too. He won't drop any GC contender, but he can make some early push. |
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