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ianrussell
Just watched the end of today's stage. Not exactly a full bloodied attack by Porte initially, he gets brought back to within a few metres then whoever was chasing strangely sits up and with Henao behind and everyone else a little further back no one wants to take it up as Porte looks back and puts in a renewed effort to ride away.

As I didn't get to watch it live any early action on the climbs or was everyone happy to wait, especially given the rain and cold?
Edited by ianrussell on 05-04-2013 23:06
 
Aquarius
issoisso wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
That's when you can see that apparent super talents are sometimes nothing more than very decent pros when they're riding clean(er) than they once did.


You really don't give up a single chance to criticize Sicard, do you? :lol:

Can't you read ? I wrote "very decent pros". I can't see how that'd even remotely relate to Sicard nowadays.
Pfft
 
Smowz
ianrussell wrote:
Just watched the end of today's stage. Not exactly a full bloodied attack by Porte initially, he gets brought back to within a few metres then whoever was chasing strangely sits up and with Henao behind and everyone else a little further back no one wants to take it up as Porte looks back and puts in a renewed effort to ride away.

As I didn't get to watch it live any early action on the climbs or was everyone happy to wait, especially given the rain and cold?


You've got the finish pretty much nailed on.

Earlier, Movistar tried a multi rider up the road thing with Herrada and Rui Costa, I think with the Garmin Catalunya style idea. However Sky managed to control it, then I think weather played it's part as Kirylenka did a massive 50km turn at the front (to be fair it was only Caja Rujal's Friale ahead of him at this point) until the very last climb. Henao took it up shredding the pack, before Sammy Sanchez tried to attack over the top.

Henao followed him with Porte sitting on Spilaks wheel about ten seconds back, Contador was briefly dropped but struggled back on. The leaders remerged in finale as Porte looked to lead out for Henao or it was sold as a counter to Sanchez by commentary. Porte then TTed in for the win, underlining that he will be a big favourite in today's TT.

I am intrigued to see how well Contador goes today, this has been a bit of a strange experience for him. It's one thing to be beaten by Froome, Nibali and Rodriguez, it is quite another to be defeated by Porte, Quintana, Spilak and Henao. I believe he has been suffering here, possibly down to illness all will be revealed in the race of 'truth'.
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issoisso
Smowz wrote:
I am intrigued to see how well Contador goes today, this has been a bit of a strange experience for him. It's one thing to be beaten by Froome, Nibali and Rodriguez, it is quite another to be defeated by Porte, Quintana, Spilak and Henao. I believe he has been suffering here, possibly down to illness all will be revealed in the race of 'truth'.


If he's being beaten by them on the climbs, today will not be a good day.
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ruben
We all know Weening will 59x11 to victory anyway
 
fickman
Hi have never seen so many dropouts in a race. Everyone was criticizing Sky with his 6 riders and now we have a team that dropouts the race.

Argos-Shimano: 0 riders
BMC, Lotto-Belisol, Cannondale, FDJ: 1
Blanco, Vacansoleil-DCM: 2
Garmin-Sharp, Sky: 3
Caja Rural, Cofidis, Katusha, Orica-Greenedge: 4
Astana, Euskaltel-Euskadi, Omega Pharma-Quick Step, RadioShack-Leopard, Team Saxo-Tinkoff: 5
Ag2r La Mondiale, Lampre-Merida, Movistar Team: 6
 
Aquarius
Praised be the WTCircus rankings that reward only the first 10 riders or so in the final G.C.
Also finishing the race with an ITT might be exciting regarding the fight for the final G.C. victory, but all those who've nothing to gain in an ITT or in the G.C. have no reason to do that stage and finish the race. They'd much better rest or go do a proper training session.

It must also be said that the awful wether they've had mustn't have helped.
 
kumazan
Aquarius wrote:
Praised be the WTCircus rankings that reward only the first 10 riders or so in the final G.C.


Thank god. Otherwise we'd have the likes of Roche or De Weert wheelsucking for a 14th place. Pfft

Aquarius wrote:
Also finishing the race with an ITT might be exciting regarding the fight for the final G.C. victory, but all those who've nothing to gain in an ITT or in the G.C. have no reason to do that stage and finish the race. They'd much better rest or go do a proper training session.


The ITT should be the first stage. It'd lose interest as a stage, but the race as a whole would be much better that way.
 
Smowz
It has become a bit of a WT stage race obsession to have a TT on the final stage.

Paris-Nice, Tirreno, Basque, Suisse and Romandie.

I cannot recall but has the Basque tour had an ITT to finish for much of the last 20 years? It would be nice to change it around as Kumazan says a stage such as yesterday would have been a good last stage for example.

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Smowz wrote:
I cannot recall but has the Basque tour had an ITT to finish for much of the last 20 years?

I was too young to see how it was in the 90s, but the last stage has been an ITT in every year since 2000 at least.
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issoisso
The last day has had a time trial since 1973 and it's been the last stage since 1975
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Alakagom
Overall finish time so far:

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Edited by Alakagom on 06-04-2013 14:59
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fcancellara
Chernetski? :lol:
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Alakagom
fcancellara wrote:
Chernetski? :lol:


What about him ? Pfft
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fosforgasXIII
I'm curious for Porte's time.

EDIT: Does anyone know where I can follow the results live. Not interested in livestream, just the results.
Edited by fosforgasXIII on 06-04-2013 15:16
 
fickman
fosforgasXIII wrote:
I'm curious for Porte's time.

EDIT: Does anyone know where I can follow the results live. Not interested in livestream, just the results.


https://vueltapais...easain.php
 
Alakagom
Considering Benat's time is only 16 seconds off Martin, Martin's time is definitely beatable.
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fickman
Finish line:
1. Martin (Omega) 35:05
2. Talansky (Garmin) a 1.08
3. Castroviejo (Movistar) a 1:36
4. Herrada (Movistar) a 1:39
5. Malori (Lampre) a 1:53
 
Spilak23
Alakagom wrote:
Considering Benat's time is only 16 seconds off Martin, Martin's time is definitely beatable.


Most lose much time on the second part. But Porte should beat him here.
 
abysmo
Talansky beating the likes of Malori and Castroviejo. He looks like he is gaining more and more the ability to be among the best GC riders when it comes to TT. Consistently improving results.
 
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