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Tour de France '11 Stage 16: Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux - Gap
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| spudde |
Posted on 19-07-2011 17:15
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Martin_TB wrote:
spudde wrote:
Martin_TB wrote:
If you are in Itatly Rai 3 broadcasts live every afternoon, also Eurosport international might be available if you have satelite
I know, I've watched Rai 3 broadcasts each day but today I was away and missed it. Well at least I'll see it when they upload it at some point hopefully.
Does this link work?
https://www.raispo...c2fde.html
It does but the broadcast has nothing to do with cycling atm
Edited by spudde on 19-07-2011 17:22
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 19-07-2011 17:40
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The Schlecks are such cowards.
Neither do they have the technical ability or courage to ride downhill.
Andy Schleck wants declines to be abandoned from Le Tour. They are part of the french landscape and the GC winner in the end has to be a complete rider. Both of the brothers are arrogant and whiny... They will probably end up being 5. and 6. in the end. |
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| siwi |
Posted on 19-07-2011 17:50
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Omg what a baby you are, Andy.. Such a baby! |
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| niconico |
Posted on 19-07-2011 17:50
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Iguwell wrote:
The Schlecks are such cowards.
Neither do they have the technical ability or courage to ride downhill.
Andy Schleck wants declines to be abandoned from Le Tour. They are part of the french landscape and the GC winner in the end has to be a complete rider. Both of the brothers are arrogant and whiny... They will probably end up being 5. and 6. in the end.
That's all Andy though. But you're right. He is a coward with no sportsmanship whatsoever.
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-07-2011 18:02
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Andy Schleck is already angry for tomorrow with the Pra Martino downhill... he said it is a dangerous forest road.
So he'll lose another minute  |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 19-07-2011 18:20
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ruben wrote:
Andy Schleck is already angry for tomorrow with the Pra Martino downhill... he said it is a dangerous forest road.
So he'll lose another minute
Here's hoping...
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| Zanci93 |
Posted on 19-07-2011 18:47
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ruben wrote:
Andy Schleck is already angry for tomorrow with the Pra Martino downhill... he said it is a dangerous forest road.
So he'll lose another minute
Hey come on !!!! What **** are you talking. These Schleck-haters waited for this day. Oh the great Leopard Trek team with his big budget and all his stars "failed" Okay they had a bad day but this is just a sign that also the stars like Contador, Evans and the Schlecks can have bad days like we didn't see it in the times of Armstrong. When I watched the race today I saw a really dangerous downhill at the end. Also Evans or Contador could have been in the situation of Andy. I think he was totally blocked today but we will see what happens in the "real alps". Now, all the presure is on Evans. We will see if he can stand the presure  |
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 19-07-2011 18:50
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ruben wrote:
Andy Schleck is already angry for tomorrow with the Pra Martino downhill... he said it is a dangerous forest road.
So he'll lose another minute
you seem happy. Never thought you were a schleck hater 
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
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| Martin_TB |
Posted on 19-07-2011 18:54
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I too saw a dangerous Downhill, but I also saw some riders - Evans, Contador, EB-H take a chance.
I'm sure you've noticed that the contest for the white is as close, if not closer than the contest for GC.
Jeannesson of FDJ took a chance and fell, but that didn't stop Uran, Taaramae and Rolland - they all still went for it.
The Tour de France is supposed to be a test to find the most complete rider, and that means descending as well as climbing TT and fast flat riding.
It seems to me that Andy Schleck wants the tour be be made easier for him, whereas what he should do is work on his TT, his descending and attacking.
Growing a pair of balls might help him too.
Edit: Great tweet by Rob Hayles
@robhayles1 Rob Hayles
So the Shleck's don't agree on racing DOWN hill. Well I don't agree on racing UP em. I guess we just have to agree to disagree on that one!
Edited by Martin_TB on 19-07-2011 18:57
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 19-07-2011 19:03
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Zanci93 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Andy Schleck is already angry for tomorrow with the Pra Martino downhill... he said it is a dangerous forest road.
So he'll lose another minute
Hey come on !!!! What **** are you talking. These Schleck-haters waited for this day. Oh the great Leopard Trek team with his big budget and all his stars "failed" Okay they had a bad day but this is just a sign that also the stars like Contador, Evans and the Schlecks can have bad days like we didn't see it in the times of Armstrong. When I watched the race today I saw a really dangerous downhill at the end. Also Evans or Contador could have been in the situation of Andy. I think he was totally blocked today but we will see what happens in the "real alps". Now, all the presure is on Evans. We will see if he can stand the presure
This is hilarious.
Andy was never blocked, he made it up to Conta and Evans at one point, but he just fell back.
Also if your not willing to take risks, you pay the consequences, clearly Schleck decided to play it safe on the descent, while Evans, Conta and Sammy all went pretty quickly on the downhill.
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| Zanci93 |
Posted on 19-07-2011 19:04
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Martin_TB wrote:
I too saw a dangerous Downhill, but I also saw some riders - Evans, Contador, EB-H take a chance.
I'm sure you've noticed that the contest for the white is as close, if not closer than the contest for GC.
Jeannesson of FDJ took a chance and fell, but that didn't stop Uran, Taaramae and Rolland - they all still went for it.
The Tour de France is supposed to be a test to find the most complete rider, and that means descending as well as climbing TT and fast flat riding.
It seems to me that Andy Schleck wants the tour be be made easier for him, whereas what he should do is work on his TT, his descending and attacking.
Growing a pair of balls might help him too.
I agree with you that the Schlecks, especially Andy has to take more risk. But i think he was totally blocked today after he lost contact to Contador and Evans. On leopard treks website they admit that they didn't expect an attack from the gc-riders today. And that's probably their problem. They plan the race an when it doesn't go like that, they don't know what to do. Contador is a rider who attacks when his legs are good and not when they planned it before the stage. |
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| mehmehmehmeh |
Posted on 19-07-2011 19:11
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titleist82 wrote:
evans has 2mins on contador.
not sure if enough for 2 tough mountains stages and final itt.
contador looked really strong today, and the climb was very easy
And he still couldn't stay with Cadel Evans. Never mind Cadel having enough time, the way the tour's gone so far the question is can Clentodor even keep up with him? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-07-2011 19:12
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mehmehmehmeh wrote:
titleist82 wrote:
evans has 2mins on contador.
not sure if enough for 2 tough mountains stages and final itt.
contador looked really strong today, and the climb was very easy
And he still couldn't stay with Cadel Evans. Never mind Cadel having enough time, the way the tour's gone so far the question is can Clentodor even keep up with him?
Did you watch the stage? Evans had to go pretty far into the red to stay with Contador at the end of the climb. In fact, it took him a very long time to close the final gap.
Evans got away on the descent, not the climb.
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| rycadinho |
Posted on 19-07-2011 19:13
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Zanci93 wrote:
Martin_TB wrote:
I too saw a dangerous Downhill, but I also saw some riders - Evans, Contador, EB-H take a chance.
I'm sure you've noticed that the contest for the white is as close, if not closer than the contest for GC.
Jeannesson of FDJ took a chance and fell, but that didn't stop Uran, Taaramae and Rolland - they all still went for it.
The Tour de France is supposed to be a test to find the most complete rider, and that means descending as well as climbing TT and fast flat riding.
It seems to me that Andy Schleck wants the tour be be made easier for him, whereas what he should do is work on his TT, his descending and attacking.
Growing a pair of balls might help him too.
I agree with you that the Schlecks, especially Andy has to take more risk. But i think he was totally blocked today after he lost contact to Contador and Evans. On leopard treks website they admit that they didn't expect an attack from the gc-riders today. And that's probably their problem. They plan the race an when it doesn't go like that, they don't know what to do. Contador is a rider who attacks when his legs are good and not when they planned it before the stage.
I disagree, since Bjarne Riis told danish television after the stage that everything was planned and they were indeed going to put pressure on the other favourites today. That's why Riis/Contador > Leopard, since they both act from tactics and instinct, and the Schleck's lack both in my view.
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| mehmehmehmeh |
Posted on 19-07-2011 19:20
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crytear wrote:
w00t garmin.
Seeing Cav finish as close to the lead as he did.. Tyler hinted it an i'll say it. I dont think Cav is racing legit... 
Then why have no cameras shown anything untoward?
It would be the picture of the year if someone got it, so why haven't we seen anything?
My guess is because nothings happening, except for some sour grapes from certain riders. |
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| mehmehmehmeh |
Posted on 19-07-2011 19:21
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kgarvey wrote:
Andy complaining about the stage, saying people don't want to see the Tour decided on a downhill. Actually Andy if the stages that decide the tour are anything like today then I think people would be quite happy with that.
Agreed, for me that was the best stage of the tour so far. |
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| Zanci93 |
Posted on 19-07-2011 19:24
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rycadinho wrote:
Zanci93 wrote:
Martin_TB wrote:
I too saw a dangerous Downhill, but I also saw some riders - Evans, Contador, EB-H take a chance.
I'm sure you've noticed that the contest for the white is as close, if not closer than the contest for GC.
Jeannesson of FDJ took a chance and fell, but that didn't stop Uran, Taaramae and Rolland - they all still went for it.
The Tour de France is supposed to be a test to find the most complete rider, and that means descending as well as climbing TT and fast flat riding.
It seems to me that Andy Schleck wants the tour be be made easier for him, whereas what he should do is work on his TT, his descending and attacking.
Growing a pair of balls might help him too.
I agree with you that the Schlecks, especially Andy has to take more risk. But i think he was totally blocked today after he lost contact to Contador and Evans. On leopard treks website they admit that they didn't expect an attack from the gc-riders today. And that's probably their problem. They plan the race an when it doesn't go like that, they don't know what to do. Contador is a rider who attacks when his legs are good and not when they planned it before the stage.
I disagree, since Bjarne Riis told danish television after the stage that everything was planned and they were indeed going to put pressure on the other favourites today. That's why Riis/Contador > Leopard, since they both act from tactics and instinct, and the Schleck's lack both in my view.
For sure it's possible that they planned this attack. But what I mean is that Contador is more instinctive. I don't know what the plan is but from now on there aren't any regretts for the Schlecks. They must have planed something big for the alps. Otherwise this Tour de France will be a big defeat for them. I think this year is the biggest chance for them to win this race. Probably the last for Fränk. |
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| mehmehmehmeh |
Posted on 19-07-2011 19:27
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Zanci93 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Andy Schleck is already angry for tomorrow with the Pra Martino downhill... he said it is a dangerous forest road.
So he'll lose another minute
Hey come on !!!! What **** are you talking. These Schleck-haters waited for this day. Oh the great Leopard Trek team with his big budget and all his stars "failed" Okay they had a bad day but this is just a sign that also the stars like Contador, Evans and the Schlecks can have bad days like we didn't see it in the times of Armstrong. When I watched the race today I saw a really dangerous downhill at the end. Also Evans or Contador could have been in the situation of Andy. I think he was totally blocked today but we will see what happens in the "real alps". Now, all the presure is on Evans. We will see if he can stand the presure
Blocked, yeah, sure. So how did he lose 40 seconds on his brother who didn't attack then? |
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Posted on 19-07-2011 19:27
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“Contador knows all too well that the Schlecks don’t perform at their best in the cold and rainy conditions,” Fränk said. “It’s all part of the game -- knowing your opponents and knowing their weaknesses. He knows the conditions today, coupled with the dangerous descent, were not our strong point.”
- Well, Fränk isn't complaining ...
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| ponka00 |
Posted on 19-07-2011 19:28
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Leopard probably has something planned in the Alps, but it won't work. They are probably one of the worst teams tactically. I haven't seen them pull of even one good tactical move.
Edited by ponka00 on 19-07-2011 19:32
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