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Le Tour de France 2015 | Stage 4 - Seraing/Cambrai
Riis123
I still love you, Bala. Danish TV bashing him for yesterday, a bit harsh imo. But I could imagine how hard it is working for another when you have been undisputed captain for 10 years.

#Bestriderofhisgeneration
 
jt1109
Riis123 wrote:
I still love you, Bala. Danish TV bashing him for yesterday, a bit harsh imo. But I could imagine how hard it is working for another when you have been undisputed captain for 10 years.

#Bestriderofhisgeneration


Pfft what a stupid comment , obviously a great rider but best of his generation never, when you have riders that have won 7 grand tours and 8 monuments in his generation
 
Dusen
Contador has 0 monuments mate Smile

Biggest one day race win for him, is his Milan Torino win in 2012
 
Forever the Best
Dusen:He was refering to Cancellara on 8 monuments.
 
jt1109
Dusen wrote:
Contador has 0 monuments mate Smile

Biggest one day race win for him, is his Milan Torino win in 2012


different riders

Contador 7 GT
Boonen 8 Monuments
 
Forever the Best
Boonen has 7 monuments
Cancellara has 8 monuments
Wait,Cance has 7 as well
Edited by Forever the Best on 08-07-2015 14:02
 
Dusen
The Schleck Fan wrote:
Dusen:He was refering to Cancellara on 8 monuments.


True, but compared to Valverde they have not won a bit of everything.
Do remember that Valverde has a Vuelta win in his pocket as well.

Perhaps they are all on the same lvl. i don't know. But because Valverde has proven himself in so many races of different character, i think he belongs among the best of the best in this generation Smile
 
jt1109
Dusen wrote:
The Schleck Fan wrote:
Dusen:He was refering to Cancellara on 8 monuments.


True, but compared to Valverde they have not won a bit of everything.
Do remember that Valverde has a Vuelta win in his pocket as well.

Perhaps they are all on the same lvl. i don't know. But because Valverde has proven himself in so many races of different character, i think he belongs among the best of the best in this generation Smile


Valverde will not be remembered in the same heights as Contador, Boonen and Cancellara I think that just fact no denying as i've said he is one of the best of his generation and his longevity is amazing but the statement was best of his generation which just isn't true

The Schleck Fan wrote:
Boonen has 7 monuments
Cancellara has 8 monuments
Wait,Cance has 7 as well


Some count the World Championship as a monument
 
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Dusen wrote:
The Schleck Fan wrote:
Dusen:He was refering to Cancellara on 8 monuments.


True, but compared to Valverde they have not won a bit of everything.
Do remember that Valverde has a Vuelta win in his pocket as well.

Perhaps they are all on the same lvl. i don't know. But because Valverde has proven himself in so many races of different character, i think he belongs among the best of the best in this generation Smile


Nobody can not deny that. he has been always in top places at UCI world tour league also. You might not like him..but he has big successful rider.
 
Dusen
jt1109 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
The Schleck Fan wrote:
Dusen:He was refering to Cancellara on 8 monuments.


True, but compared to Valverde they have not won a bit of everything.
Do remember that Valverde has a Vuelta win in his pocket as well.

Perhaps they are all on the same lvl. i don't know. But because Valverde has proven himself in so many races of different character, i think he belongs among the best of the best in this generation Smile


Valverde will not be remembered in the same heights as Contador, Boonen and Cancellara I think that just fact no denying as i've said he is one of the best of his generation and his longevity is amazing but the statement was best of his generation which just isn't true

The Schleck Fan wrote:
Boonen has 7 monuments
Cancellara has 8 monuments
Wait,Cance has 7 as well


Some count the World Championship as a monument


Not sure i agree with that. He may not be remembered as the best of his generation, like other riders have been back in the 80s and 90s, but i think it's hard to make a statement about just yet.

I feel comfident that he won't be the first name popping into peoples head when asked about this period of cycling, but he will be among the first.

WC have never been counted as a monument, and it never will Pfft
But with the history and competition in the WC these last decades, winning the WC has around the same value as winning a monument imo. Smile
 
jt1109
Dusen wrote:

Not sure i agree with that. He may not be remembered as the best of his generation, like other riders have been back in the 80s and 90s, but i think it's hard to make a statement about just yet.

I feel comfident that he won't be the first name popping into peoples head when asked about this period of cycling, but he will be among the first.


I don't quite get what you are trying to say you say you don't agree so in a sense saying he is the best of his generation.

And then say he won't be?

I just don't get how Valverde will ever be seen as a better rider then Contador, Cancellara or Boonen it's just not going to happen

Dusen wrote:

WC have never been counted as a monument, and it never will Pfft
But with the history and competition in the WC these last decades, winning the WC has around the same value as winning a monument imo. Smile


Ahh must just have been me thinking that for some random reasonSmile
 
Spilak23
1. Valverde
2. Contador
3. Boonen
4. Cancellara

Contador would be first if he had won more than 1 one-day race.
 
Riis123
jt1109 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
I still love you, Bala. Danish TV bashing him for yesterday, a bit harsh imo. But I could imagine how hard it is working for another when you have been undisputed captain for 10 years.

#Bestriderofhisgeneration


Pfft what a stupid comment , obviously a great rider but best of his generation never, when you have riders that have won 7 grand tours and 8 monuments in his generation


Consistently great for 10 years, february-october, every terrain. Cause you dont agree with me doesnt mean Im stupid. Contador and Cance will be remembered more, but strictly looking at this guy's result year in and year out, Valv is the best rider of his generation, despite him underperforming in Tour de France, which is why the general consensus is fx. Contador is much bigger
 
jt1109
The love for Valverde here Grin

Valverde is great agreed but the way I see it just him being consistent in races february-october does not make him the best of his generation surely race wins does?

and for me Valverde wins don't stack up to Contador.

see below

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