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General Career Discussion - PCM 14
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 17-10-2014 20:56
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Awesome TDF just finished. Continuing my Sky career into 2017 and sh&t got serious!
2013 TDF Route was selected, so obviously i pick Froome as leader. Except he crashes out on stage 1 (he's now finished 2 GT's in 4 years...) but i can fall back on TVG as a leader. Anyway the result:
1. Contador (AST) 84h17'55
2. Konig (OPQ) +23"
3. Nibali (AST) +25"
4. TVG (SKY) +31"
Before the penultimate mountain stage the top4 were only split by 14"... Just an insane race, and the first time Sky have not won the Team Competition in a GT since 2014 (Astana beat us by 5'12).
Don't worry though as Pinot dominated the Giro with 4 stage wins and the Points Jersey. We also took 5th and 6th with Adam Yates an Porte. And i'm on target to set new PB's in every ranking again... I just want to win the TDF for a second time! Oh well guess it will be over to Pinot in 2018 to do it for the french
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 17-10-2014 22:55
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indeed awesome, to bad we won't get a tour like that in real life ever again  at least there is PCM for that 
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 18-10-2014 00:44
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Finished 2017 but i'm not going to do a long review, just to say Pinot also won the Vuelta and Sky topped every ranking toping every previous season like normal.
I do have to say though that Stat inflation is worse than i have EVER encountered in PCM. It's out of any and all control...
24 riders with 80+ MO
21 riders with 80+ HL
15 riders with 80+ TT
Only 9 riders with 80+ PRL...
10 riders with 80+ CB
15 riders with 80+ SP
20 riders with 80+ ACC
14 riders with 80+ STA
Only 1 rider with 80+ RES
11 riders with 80+ REC
Obviously these are only the top of the riders but it's more than i've personally encountered, and it is making every WT team strong all-round. It's also screwing with the Promotions/Relegations, where the same 4 teams have swapped places in 2015,2016and2017 because not enough strong riders are making it to other PCT level teams. There is a real insane chasm of ability between the even a relegation fighting WT team and a Top5 PCT team.
If i were to include high 70's to those numbers above they would more than triple most notably again in MO and HL, but also in the other stats (except RES). It's not impacting the fun of the career yet but of the top20 AVG riders only 5 are 32yo (none older) so even they won't take big decreases for at least another year, and only about 5 more are 30-31... 6 of the top10 AVG are under30 still. It's a similar story on the individual stats were the majority of the top riders are still relatively young, or atleast they're not old. It's bade enough i'm actually doubting whether the first generation of newgens will ever be competitve at the top level in their own right.
2 of the Top20 AVG U25 riders are newgens, only 2! This does start to become more favorable when ranked on the individual stats but that overall strength will keep them out of competition for a while, especially as the real life riders of the same age are now becoming powerhouses in their own right.
This semi-rant is starting to get long so i'll finish up. Just thought it was worth mentioning as i found it very interesting.
Also i'm thinking of turning 2018 into some sort of story where i chase some of the big Acheivments i've never got (Merckx, Ardennes Triple, Storm the Bastille)
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| superider2010 |
Posted on 29-10-2014 10:26
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i reinstalled the game fresh,no community db,not even real name db
got a peter sagan trying to create a team of youngsters
[IMG]https://imgur.com/4HlpsKe[/IMG]
[IMG]https://imgur.com/RZ3HPJN[/IMG]
Edited by superider2010 on 29-10-2014 10:27
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| matt17br |
Posted on 29-10-2014 10:27
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superider2010 wrote:
i reinstalled the game fresh,no community db,not even real name db
got a peter sagan trying to create a team of youngsters
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| shin0da_13 |
Posted on 08-11-2014 18:11
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I started playing my first pcm14 career with BMC on extreme level. It's quite a good one with consistent results at World Tour level although right now i am quite pissed off as i missed the Ardennes triple with Gilbert (he finished 5th in Liege, fckuking strong headwind). Van Avermaet brought us some nice result with 2nd in Down Under, 8th in San Remo, 8th in E3, a beautiful victory in Gent Wevelgem, 2nd in RVV and 4th in Roubaix. After the spring classics he sits #1 in WT standings. But the biggest surprise was the overall victory of Sammy Sanchez in Pais Vasco along with a stage win after a mid stage attack. We also got a 6th place with Evans in Tirreno and a 7th with Tejay in Catalunya. Quite unlucky our american leader as he crashed and picked up an injury while he was leading Tirreno. |
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 08-11-2014 18:14
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Great results!
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 13-11-2014 00:56
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Cult Energy/Team NOS/Delta Cafe career, Season 3 WT.
After a quiet start our season exploded into life when Mads Pedersen sprinted to a great win in Milan San Remo. Then our U23 puncher Alexandr Akopyants was on a great day in the break on the first stage of Pais Vasco. He attacked and won by 2 minutes and despite having poor mountains and TT stats he hung on for 5th place.
In the Grand Tours Louis Vervaeke (MO 78) took the mountains jersey with a stage win in the Giro followed by U23 recruit Ales Chromy (MO 80 TT 73) who did the same thing in Le Tour meaning we held all 3 Grand Tour mountains jerseys at the same time. Josh Edmonson (MO 82) was 5th in the Giro and 7th in Le Tour taking the Young Riders jersey. Ales Chromy managed 9th in the Vuelta, next season we have high hopes he can develop enough to challenge for a win.
Mads Pedersen (SP83) struggled to challenge the best sprinters but he had a great Eneco Tour beating Peter Sagan 3 stages in a row.
Again we set the second half objectives to 1st to boost our buying power but it was nowhere near enough to hire the top riders who are asking for over 160k euros! We have signed back with a Danish sponsor Maersk - Saxo Bank for 2017 but could not entice Jakob Fuglsang to join us. Instead we boosted our sprinting and cobbling with Oscar Gatto.
Here is a highlights video of the 2016 season. As it mainly features riders hired from the U23 ranks I chose Who Are You as the Who track
https://youtu.be/KrGHFWCPCdc |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 13-11-2014 13:54
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DaveTwoBob wrote:
Cult Energy/Team NOS/Delta Cafe career, Season 3 WT.
After a quiet start our season exploded into life when Mads Pedersen sprinted to a great win in Milan San Remo. Then our U23 puncher Alexandr Akopyants was on a great day in the break on the first stage of Pais Vasco. He attacked and won by 2 minutes and despite having poor mountains and TT stats he hung on for 5th place.
In the Grand Tours Louis Vervaeke (MO 78) took the mountains jersey with a stage win in the Giro followed by U23 recruit Ales Chromy (MO 80 TT 73) who did the same thing in Le Tour meaning we held all 3 Grand Tour mountains jerseys at the same time. Josh Edmonson (MO 82) was 5th in the Giro and 7th in Le Tour taking the Young Riders jersey. Ales Chromy managed 9th in the Vuelta, next season we have high hopes he can develop enough to challenge for a win.
Mads Pedersen (SP83) struggled to challenge the best sprinters but he had a great Eneco Tour beating Peter Sagan 3 stages in a row.
Again we set the second half objectives to 1st to boost our buying power but it was nowhere near enough to hire the top riders who are asking for over 160k euros! We have signed back with a Danish sponsor Maersk - Saxo Bank for 2017 but could not entice Jakob Fuglsang to join us. Instead we boosted our sprinting and cobbling with Oscar Gatto.
Here is a highlights video of the 2016 season. As it mainly features riders hired from the U23 ranks I chose Who Are You as the Who track
https://youtu.be/KrGHFWCPCdc
There's a big stat inflation I see 
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 13-11-2014 15:01
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matt17br wrote:There's a big stat inflation I see
Yes I can confirm TMM's observations about lots of high stat riders and I am guilty of setting evolution to 0.5 as I was too impatient when using 0.3 . I think 0.4 might be my sweet spot, will try that for my next career. |
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| shin0da_13 |
Posted on 17-11-2014 19:34
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shin0da_13 wrote:
I started playing my first pcm14 career with BMC on extreme level. It's quite a good one with consistent results at World Tour level although right now i am quite pissed off as i missed the Ardennes triple with Gilbert (he finished 5th in Liege, fckuking strong headwind). Van Avermaet brought us some nice result with 2nd in Down Under, 8th in San Remo, 8th in E3, a beautiful victory in Gent Wevelgem, 2nd in RVV and 4th in Roubaix. After the spring classics he sits #1 in WT standings. But the biggest surprise was the overall victory of Sammy Sanchez in Pais Vasco along with a stage win after a mid stage attack. We also got a 6th place with Evans in Tirreno and a 7th with Tejay in Catalunya. Quite unlucky our american leader as he crashed and picked up an injury while he was leading Tirreno.
After the spring classics we entered the second half of the season. Despite some good results our sponsors put pressure on us to up our performance (no, they didn't sent us an email Vino style). In the two month leading to the Tour there were important objectives for them. First off was the Giro where we had to obtain a stage win. We sent a decent allaround team and tried to be aggresive with our racing. And we duly delivered, with a victory from Schar and one from Atapuma on Zoncolan. Meanwhile in the US thing went so-so. Phinney and TJ grabbed each one a time trial victory while on GC we struggled and only managed a 6th place with Bookwalter. Atapuma continued his strong showings and won a MTF and the climbers jersey in Dauphine. Meanwhile in Suisse TJ needed to show us some good form if he wanted to be our leader in few weeks time at the Tour. The race started incredible for us as Morabito nicked the hilly time trial on stage 1. After a decent performance on the second TT from Tejay, he performed very good on the 2 summit finishes and finished second overall.
On the transfer market we extended the contract of Oss but decided to let Sanchez go. As replacement we brought Bakelants and also signed with two talented young riders, Rohan Dennis and belgian Loick Vliegen. There are other deals pending but i will keep you guys posted about them on the next update.
Edited by shin0da_13 on 17-11-2014 19:36
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| aalavic |
Posted on 21-11-2014 03:39
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Hi all! I need your advice. Il Giro is about to start and I've got a doc report that my designated leader (Rui Costa) is not feeling ok. The injury is described as low energy and the doc recommended vitamins. It's may 9th and the race is about to start. Should I take him, or it's best to take an alternative as team leader?
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| matt17br |
Posted on 21-11-2014 14:50
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aalavic wrote:
Hi all! I need your advice. Il Giro is about to start and I've got a doc report that my designated leader (Rui Costa) is not feeling ok. The injury is described as low energy and the doc recommended vitamins. It's may 9th and the race is about to start. Should I take him, or it's best to take an alternative as team leader?
Hmm, well, since PCM 14 the injuries system has changed a little. Now you can select a ill rider unless he is suffering a serious injury. My guess is that if he takes part he won't be in good enough shape and he won't do well, so I wouldn't take him to the Giro. But first: what's your team like? Is there a decent alternative to him?
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| aalavic |
Posted on 22-11-2014 02:05
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matt17br wrote:
aalavic wrote:
Hi all! I need your advice. Il Giro is about to start and I've got a doc report that my designated leader (Rui Costa) is not feeling ok. The injury is described as low energy and the doc recommended vitamins. It's may 9th and the race is about to start. Should I take him, or it's best to take an alternative as team leader?
Hmm, well, since PCM 14 the injuries system has changed a little. Now you can select a ill rider unless he is suffering a serious injury. My guess is that if he takes part he won't be in good enough shape and he won't do well, so I wouldn't take him to the Giro. But first: what's your team like? Is there a decent alternative to him?
Hi matt, that was what I was thinking. Probably not a good idea take an ill rider to a grand tour. This is just my second season in pcm14. I'm with sky and the plan for the grand tours was Rui Costa for the Giro and Froome for TDF and Vuelta. Now I'll have to reach for a backuplan. Maybe I will take Porte for the Giro, Froome to the TDF and Rui Costa to the Vuelta but this would be off the riders objectives... |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 22-11-2014 07:48
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Hi matt, that was what I was thinking. Probably not a good idea take an ill rider to a grand tour. This is just my second season in pcm14. I'm with sky and the plan for the grand tours was Rui Costa for the Giro and Froome for TDF and Vuelta. Now I'll have to reach for a backuplan. Maybe I will take Porte for the Giro, Froome to the TDF and Rui Costa to the Vuelta but this would be off the riders objectives...[/quote]
Could you post some screenshots of your team (e.g. stats sorted by Mountain etc.)?
If you're playing a career with Sky, taking Porte to the Giro, Froome to the Tour and Rui to the Vuelta shouldn't be a problem because of the oodles of Mountain domestiques 
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| aalavic |
Posted on 25-11-2014 00:35
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matt17br wrote:
Hi matt, that was what I was thinking. Probably not a good idea take an ill rider to a grand tour. This is just my second season in pcm14. I'm with sky and the plan for the grand tours was Rui Costa for the Giro and Froome for TDF and Vuelta. Now I'll have to reach for a backuplan. Maybe I will take Porte for the Giro, Froome to the TDF and Rui Costa to the Vuelta but this would be off the riders objectives...
Could you post some screenshots of your team (e.g. stats sorted by Mountain etc.)?
If you're playing a career with Sky, taking Porte to the Giro, Froome to the Tour and Rui to the Vuelta shouldn't be a problem because of the oodles of Mountain domestiques [/quote]
So, I followed you advice and left Rui take a rest and recover and took Porte as GC contender. The next day after the first day of the Giro doc reports complete recover of Rui Costa. Damn! Anyway, Porte is doing fine in the Giro (2nd behind Uran after 20 stages) and Rui is smashing the competition on the Tour of California witch is a major objective from the sponsor! 
Thank you for the advice!
All is well when it ends well
PS - on mistery to me is the poor performance of Rafal Majka as Porte's main partner. In the beginning of the season I set him up as main aide of Rui Costa so the Giro was one of his main objectives but he's just so lame...most of the stages so far I have to discard him and take Kennaugh as main helper for Porte
Edited by aalavic on 25-11-2014 01:56
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| matt17br |
Posted on 25-11-2014 13:58
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aalavic wrote:
PS - on mistery to me is the poor performance of Rafal Majka as Porte's main partner. In the beginning of the season I set him up as main aide of Rui Costa so the Giro was one of his main objectives but he's just so lame...most of the stages so far I have to discard him and take Kennaugh as main helper for Porte
Ehh, well, it happens, and often to me. How's his form? Sometimes if you do even a little mistake in the training the riders reach the edge of the form when they shouldn't.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 25-11-2014 19:00
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10 Bucks on Steam right now, hm. Might buy.
Question on my mind: Is it an improvement to PCM2013 and if so, what's really better than PCM2013? Is the racing better than the shitfest one has to endure in 2013?
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 25-11-2014 19:06
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Shonak wrote:
10 Bucks on Steam right now, hm. Might buy.
Question on my mind: Is it an improvement to PCM2013 and if so, what's really better than PCM2013? Is the racing better than the shitfest one has to endure in 2013?
I expect better from you... go use the forum search right now before i slap you
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| matt17br |
Posted on 25-11-2014 19:09
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Shonak wrote:
10 Bucks on Steam right now, hm. Might buy.
Question on my mind: Is it an improvement to PCM2013 and if so, what's really better than PCM2013? Is the racing better than the shitfest one has to endure in 2013?
10 €, well, it's without any doubt worth every cent and, yeah, an improvement to PCM 13.
The AI that in PCM 13 was totally fucked up IMO improved a bit, the career mode too and I like the new features such as the Automatic mode (you are able to control only a rider letting the others do what they should do, even though I haven't seen a story based on this yet)
@TMM
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