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Volta Ciclista a Catalunya 2013
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 22-03-2013 14:12
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issoisso wrote:
kumazan wrote:
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That's one more than Andy Schleck then
What?
One stage race win is one more stage race wins than Andy Schleck
VDB doesn't have any stage race win either, just a stage win from the 2011 Dauphiné 
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| roturn |
Posted on 22-03-2013 14:18
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But surely he has more finished races and some top5-10`s. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-03-2013 14:26
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
kumazan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
That's one more than Andy Schleck then
What?
One stage race win is one more stage race wins than Andy Schleck
VDB doesn't have any stage race win either, just a stage win from the 2011 Dauphiné
Oh I thought the discussion was about RodrÃguez
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 22-03-2013 14:32
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Miguel98 wrote:
Antón, not really a surprise. Wondering why, since his fall in the Vuelta of 2010 or 2011, can't recall now, he just suck's.
Sry about the subject. Man is clearly out of the dope after these years. This aint normal that such a comet will slow down like that. |
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| usto |
Posted on 22-03-2013 14:59
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Dan Martin take 1 sec. in intermediate sprint. Rodriguez needs to take time in the last stage. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 22-03-2013 15:32
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Obvious winner is obvious: Francois Parisien (Argos) after being led out by Thomas Damuseau.
Dumoulin, Poulhies, Ratto, Wyss next.
Says a lot about the sprinter quality left.
Edited by cio93 on 22-03-2013 15:33
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| ppanther |
Posted on 22-03-2013 16:29
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Rialp - Lleida (156,5 km)
1. François Parisien (Argos-Shimano) 3:32:02 Palmarés completo
2. Samuel Dumoulin (Ag2r La Mondiale) m.t.
3. Stephane Poulhies (Sojasun) m.t.
4. Daniele Ratto (Cannondale) m.t.
5. Danilo Wyss (BMC) m.t.
6. Andrew Fenn (Omega Pharma-Quick Step) m.t.
7. Gianni Meersman (Omega Pharma-Quick Step) m.t.
8. Maurits Lammertink (Vacansoleil-DCM) m.t.
9. Daniel Martin (Garmin-Sharp) m.t.
10. Thomas Damuseau (Argos-Shimano) m.t.
11. Julien Simon (Sojasun) m.t.
12. Brett Lancaster (Orica-Greenedge) m.t.
13. Pim Ligthart (Vacansoleil-DCM) m.t.
14. Francesco Gavazzi (Astana) a 03
15. Jean Lou Paiani (Sojasun) a 03
General Classment
1. Daniel Martin (Garmin-Sharp) 22:20:39
2. Joaquim RodrÃguez (Katusha) a 14
3. Nairo Quintana (Movistar Team) a 42
4. Bradley Wiggins (Sky) a 46
5. Michele Scarponi (Lampre-Merida) a 47
6. Robert Gesink (Blanco) a 59
7. Przemyslaw Niemiec (Lampre-Merida) a 1:10
8. Peter Stetina (Garmin-Sharp) a 1:17
9. Thibaut Pinot (FDJ) a 1:23
10. Jurgen Van den Broeck (Lotto-Belisol) a 1:25
11. Thomas Danielson (Garmin-Sharp) a 1:33
12. Jakob Fuglsang (Astana) a 1:55
13. Simon Spilak (Katusha) a 1:59
14. Steve Morabito (BMC) a 2:01
15. Mikel Nieve (Euskaltel-Euskadi) a 2:29
Edited by ppanther on 22-03-2013 16:32
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-03-2013 17:08
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Way to improve on his canadian classic placing last year 
Quite underrated, Parisien. He's quite good in the hilly stuff and in the sprint as well
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 22-03-2013 17:21
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Nice work by Martin and Garmin today nabbing a bonus and then staying close enough to the front to get the right side of a few splits - puts him 14 seconds up on Purito now https://www.pelotonwatch.com/results/2...tage5.html
Edited by ianrussell on 22-03-2013 17:22
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 23-03-2013 12:05
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Daniel Martin wins 1st intermediate sprint and increases his lead.
Spoiler Results:
75 MARTIN, Daniel (IRL / Garmin Sharp)
72 FERNANDEZ, Koldo (ESP / Garmin Sharp)
71 Hesjedal, Ryder (CAN / Garmin Sharp)
Edited by Alakagom on 23-03-2013 12:05
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 23-03-2013 12:23
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ianrussell wrote:
Figures for almost all of the last climb for Martin and all of the climb for Purito and Quintana (source vetooo @ammattipyoraily) :
Port Aine (last 17.10 km, 6.54 %, 1119 m). Dan Martin: 45 min 43 sec, 22.44 Kph, VAM 1469 m/h, 5.53 W/kg.
NOTE THE LONGER DISTANCE BELOW DUE TO LACK OF DATA FOR MARTIN AT THE START OF THE CLIMB
Port Aine (18.35 km, 6.70 %, 1229 m). Joaquim Rodriguez, Nairo Quintana: 49 min 29 sec, 22.13 Kph, VAM 1490 m/h, 5.58 W/kg.
Bearing in mind a reported 4700m of vertical ascent in the stage and being off the front all day and and and a long last climb that's a very impressive (and in case that's misinterpreted I personally feel totally believable) performance from Martin in my opinion. What the numbers don't show too well is how much I enjoyed it 
Interesting. Given that J-Rod and Quintana have the same W/kg, I assume it's re-calculated numbers and not SRM ones (otherwise it'd mean their weight is the very same) ?
If those three riders weighed 70 kg (good ol' 70+8 kg model), they'd have done 387 W during approximately 45 minutes (Martin), or 390 W during 50 minutes.
The human limits are believed to be around 410 W for 40-45 minutes at the end of a stage with a lot of climbing prior, and to vary of about 1 W/minute before of after that.
So, it's high performances, 4 or 5 % below the limits of acceptable, not 15 % above as in 1996-1997. It shows riders are already on a very good form. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 23-03-2013 12:55
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Alakagom wrote:
Daniel Martin wins 1st intermediate sprint and increases his lead.
Spoiler Results:
75 MARTIN, Daniel (IRL / Garmin Sharp)
72 FERNANDEZ, Koldo (ESP / Garmin Sharp)
71 Hesjedal, Ryder (CAN / Garmin Sharp)
Feels like PCM 
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| juszta |
Posted on 23-03-2013 15:07
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Gerrans takes the win in the sprint of a select group of about 50 riders.
Meersman comes in 2nd, Dumoulin 3rd and Ratto 4th
Results according to cyclingnews:
| 1 | Simon Gerrans (Aus) Orica-GreenEdge | 4:00:00 | | | 2 | Gianni Meersman (Bel) Omega Pharma-Quick Step | | | | 3 | Samuel Dumoulin (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale | | | | 4 | Daniele Ratto (Ita) Cannondale Pro Cycling | | | | 5 | Danilo Wyss (Swi) BMC Racing Team | | | | 6 | Julien Simon (Fra) Sojasun | | | | 7 | Daniel Moreno Fernandez (Spa) Katusha | | | | 8 | Joaquim Rodriguez Oliver (Spa) Katusha | | | | 9 | Jakob Fuglsang (Den) Astana Pro Team | | | | 10 | Rigoberto Uran Uran (Col) Sky Procycling |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 23-03-2013 15:15
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That was a Great win for Gerrans considering how far back he came from |
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| emre99 |
Posted on 23-03-2013 15:32
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Wow Gerrans! What a finish
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| ruben |
Posted on 23-03-2013 22:00
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I didn't even notice he was in the race until today. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 23-03-2013 22:01
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Report's said he had abandoned. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 23-03-2013 22:55
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Aquarius wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
Figures for almost all of the last climb for Martin and all of the climb for Purito and Quintana (source vetooo @ammattipyoraily) :
Port Aine (last 17.10 km, 6.54 %, 1119 m). Dan Martin: 45 min 43 sec, 22.44 Kph, VAM 1469 m/h, 5.53 W/kg.
NOTE THE LONGER DISTANCE BELOW DUE TO LACK OF DATA FOR MARTIN AT THE START OF THE CLIMB
Port Aine (18.35 km, 6.70 %, 1229 m). Joaquim Rodriguez, Nairo Quintana: 49 min 29 sec, 22.13 Kph, VAM 1490 m/h, 5.58 W/kg.
Bearing in mind a reported 4700m of vertical ascent in the stage and being off the front all day and and and a long last climb that's a very impressive (and in case that's misinterpreted I personally feel totally believable) performance from Martin in my opinion. What the numbers don't show too well is how much I enjoyed it
Interesting. Given that J-Rod and Quintana have the same W/kg, I assume it's re-calculated numbers and not SRM ones (otherwise it'd mean their weight is the very same) ?
If those three riders weighed 70 kg (good ol' 70+8 kg model), they'd have done 387 W during approximately 45 minutes (Martin), or 390 W during 50 minutes.
The human limits are believed to be around 410 W for 40-45 minutes at the end of a stage with a lot of climbing prior, and to vary of about 1 W/minute before of after that.
So, it's high performances, 4 or 5 % below the limits of acceptable, not 15 % above as in 1996-1997. It shows riders are already on a very good form.
That's right it's not SRM data, though I don't suppose their weight is drastically different.
Also you might find this interesting https://www.cyclismas.com/2013/03/a-di...formances/
Have had about 2 hours sleep so I might be remembering wrongly from when I read through a few days ago but it's basically an attempt to compare climbing performances from any (decisive) climb against recent (post bio passport) historical performances.
It also attempts to factor in the exertion time, unlike current calculations - e.g. we currently look at a figure of say 6.2W/kg and might subjectively say it's reasonable for a short 15 minute climb but is a tall order over say 45 minutes.
It's a bit heavy going but I found it interesting even if, like any method, it's not without its weaknesses.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 23-03-2013 23:00
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Purito's ideal racing weight is 1kg less. Let's assume they're similarly close to their ideal weights to be in this form.
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 23-03-2013 23:13
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issoisso wrote:
Purito's ideal racing weight is 1kg less. Let's assume they're similarly close to their ideal weights to be in this form.
Sounds like a good guestimate. I've edited the post above to include a link to a new method of performance comparison I found interesting too for those so inclined. |
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