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Friday, July 6: Stage 6: Epernay-Metz
doddy13
DavydeFauw wrote:
Maybe I'm asking something weird, but last year, when the last group on the Galibier wass too late, the direction decided that the riders just were allowed to continue their tour. Isn't there a way which the director could "help" the riders who have fallen?


No, that is totally different. They missed the time limit, but there is a rule that states that the rule can be bended.

Crashes can only be compensated for in the final 3km of a flat stage.
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valverde321
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Riders I'm cheering for now for the overall:

Evans, Nibali, Rolland, Van den Broeck. Anyone else is the enemy. Especially Wiggo. Angry


Rolland is out of the GC. Wink
 
jph27
valverde321 wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Riders I'm cheering for now for the overall:

Evans, Nibali, Rolland, Van den Broeck. Anyone else is the enemy. Especially Wiggo. Angry


Rolland is out of the GC. Wink


He's only 2'50 down. I still believe. Pfft
 
Alakagom
valverde321 wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Riders I'm cheering for now for the overall:

Evans, Nibali, Rolland, Van den Broeck. Anyone else is the enemy. Especially Wiggo. Angry


Rolland is out of the GC. Wink


Is he ? I mean, 2/3 minutes isn't that bad. I know he will loose a lot in TT, but with incoming attacks he can gain too. Nobody's chances are over whom are under 4 minutes now and are not injured.
Edited by Alakagom on 06-07-2012 17:04
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ianrussell
SweatyViking wrote:
Why was Taaramae given the same time as the peloton?


Was wondering the same thing. Might be corrected but suggests he somehow got held up in the last 3km :/
 
DavydeFauw
doddy13 wrote:
DavydeFauw wrote:
Maybe I'm asking something weird, but last year, when the last group on the Galibier wass too late, the direction decided that the riders just were allowed to continue their tour. Isn't there a way which the director could "help" the riders who have fallen?


No, that is totally different. They missed the time limit, but there is a rule that states that the rule can be bended.

Crashes can only be compensated for in the final 3km of a flat stage.


Yes, but what I mean with that, is that the direction can decide to intervene. But that is no option? The commentator said that maybe it was possible.
 
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Abelbaba
Alakagom wrote:
[quote] are not injured.

not too manny unfortunatly...
 
SportingNonsense
ianrussell wrote:
SweatyViking wrote:
Why was Taaramae given the same time as the peloton?


Was wondering the same thing. Might be corrected but suggests he somehow got held up in the last 3km :/


The fact that it now shows him with the same time as the peloton proves that he had a problem Wink

Plus the fact that he was casually riding in to the finish was also a bit of a clue!
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kumazan
Alakagom wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Riders I'm cheering for now for the overall:

Evans, Nibali, Rolland, Van den Broeck. Anyone else is the enemy. Especially Wiggo. Angry


Rolland is out of the GC. Wink


Is he ? I mean, 2/3 minutes isn't that bad. I know he will loose a lot in TT, but with incoming attacks he can gain too. Nobody's chances are over whom are under 4 minutes now and are not injured.


Most of them if not all will lose over 4 extra minutes in the 2 TTs (combined). The GC is over for them. The bright side is that the top contenders didn't lose time and are not injured - not counting Gesink as top contender here because of his broken leg, he's the biggest contender among those who lost time.
 
Riis123
Rabobank stating that they were in a good position in the peloton is shit.. if they were placed further up in the peloton this would never have happened. You can't continue to say it's back luck - why does Evans never crash? Why didn't Armstrong crash for 7 straight years - luck? I don't think so. This is a part of the game and being able to be up in the front consistenly over the course of 3 weeks is very vital.

A part from that, is would obviously have been better if Evans and Wiggins lost 2 minutes instead. They didn't. That means that Rolland, Valverde, Brajkovic and the Rabos need to attack even more in the mountains. Actually, I don't think it is as bad as some says for the race in generel.
 
SportingNonsense
kumazan is right, the most of the main GC favourites were far enough forward to miss the crash - Wiggins, Evans, Sanchez, Menchov, Van den Broeck. It's more the outsiders who have suffered today.

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ianrussell
SportingNonsense wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
SweatyViking wrote:
Why was Taaramae given the same time as the peloton?


Was wondering the same thing. Might be corrected but suggests he somehow got held up in the last 3km :/


The fact that it now shows him with the same time as the peloton proves that he had a problem Wink

Plus the fact that he was casually riding in to the finish was also a bit of a clue!


Unfortunately not able to watch it at work and read in 1 or 2 of the feeds he was held up in the crash. Glad it was only 119 riders and not 120...
 
Abelbaba
Riis123 wrote:
Rabobank stating that they were in a good position in the peloton is shit.. if they were placed further up in the peloton this would never have happened. You can't continue to say it's back luck - why does Evans never crash? Why didn't Armstrong crash for 7 straight years - luck? I don't think so. This is a part of the game and being able to be up in the front consistenly over the course of 3 weeks is very vital.

A part from that, is would obviously have been better if Evans and Wiggins lost 2 minutes instead. They didn't. That means that Rolland, Valverde, Brajkovic and the Rabos need to attack even more in the mountains. Actually, I don't think it is as bad as some says for the race in generel.


it will certanly make the race interesting...
 
ruben
Evans never crashed? Lol. Before he won his Tour he virtually fell every year
 
doddy13
Hesjedal on his way to hospital apparently.
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Riis123
ruben wrote:
Evans never crashed? Lol. Before he won his Tour he virtually fell every year


I allude to the fact that BMC has been in the front the whole Tour. When you have such a attitude it decreases the chances of crashing or being held up.
 
Abelbaba
Riis123 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Evans never crashed? Lol. Before he won his Tour he virtually fell every year


I allude to the fact that BMC has been in the front the whole Tour. When you have such a attitude it decreases the chances of crashing or being held up.


and increasing falls behind you...
when you ride with 6 trains next to eachother
Edited by Abelbaba on 06-07-2012 17:20
 
Teddy The Creator
ruben wrote:
Evans never crashed? Lol. Before he won his Tour he virtually fell every year

Don't worry guys, Gesink will win the tour when he's 34. Pfft
 
Riis123
Abelbaba wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Evans never crashed? Lol. Before he won his Tour he virtually fell every year


I allude to the fact that BMC has been in the front the whole Tour. When you have such a attitude it decreases the chances of crashing or being held up.


and increasing falls behind you...
when you ride with 6 trains next to eachother


Again: it is and has become an even bigger part of the game.

Teddy: Banana
Edited by Riis123 on 06-07-2012 17:21
 
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