|
The Runners thread
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 22-11-2024 14:03
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| Aquarius |
Posted on 12-08-2013 12:26
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5220
Joined: 29-11-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
I think I've found out what's wrong for now. Not that it's going to be fixed before a couple of weeks, but I'd say it's already a step forward.
Wednesday I paid a visit to the doctor, who noticed I have flat feet (had he noticed that early 2007, I wouldn't have lost 20 months because of recurrent injuries). More interestingly, he noticed that my right foot has gotten even flatter, or is even more flat the left one.
It didn't help much at the moment...
So, I had felt my right adductor a few days ago (after cycling a lot), but some stretching further and the pain was gone.
Eventually, after not running for almost two weeks I gave it a try yesterday. ~12 km in 1h (hilly though). No pain during the first 15 minutes, then all the symptoms appeared again, one after the other.
Adductor, pubis, back of the right knee. And of course back of pelvis.
I had blamed it on my cycling cleats for the back of the right knee tendinitis last May. The screws went loose, the cleat moved a little, and my foot was in a wrong position. As I cycled much without really noticing, I thought that's where it came from. I fixed the cleats, kept on running, it didn't get much worst. I stopped running, kept on cycling, the pain vanished.
I started running again, it came back immediately. All right, there has to be something else. That's how I made the link with the doctor's remark. It draws a whole line between the inner side of my right foot, the summit of my right calf, the back (internal side) tendon of my knee, my right adductor and my pubis.
I checked out my orthopaedic soles, the gap between my feet and the soles. It's much more important on the right side, which mean my foot has much more room to "collapse" (we're talking of a few mm, or one cm), which probably on long repeated efforts has been causing the trouble since February.
Now, we'll see if the osteopath finds something next week, and manage to fix it (I have hope for my pelvis).
Then : fix the soles, check my teeth, and I should be ready to run again. 
I was thinking, maybe I could still do 200 or 400 m series on track before it's fixed, as it's using the forefoot much more than jogging or road running.
Edited by Aquarius on 12-08-2013 12:26
|
| |
|
|
| miggi133 |
Posted on 12-08-2013 13:47
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3141
Joined: 19-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
That Flatfeet diagnosis is the key... Sounds a lot more reasonable as a cause then anything else... Good that you made a step into the right direction... Though I would recommend not to run the 200 & 400 track races... Since its forefoot running, there is a lot more strain on your cales, and since you have flatfeet your ankles are probably quite weak. Worst case scenario, you worsen your injury and add a severe calf strain which can be extremely painful till is goone (you have to stretch quite a lot for it and its a painful stretching process... Id say you should sort out your injury above all, maybe even call it quits for the rest of the season and slowly start running competitively again come next year.
|
| |
|
|
| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-08-2013 13:46
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5220
Joined: 29-11-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
I've seen an osteopath this morning, the one who got me back on my feet in 2009 (a rheumatologist had stated I was lost for running and walking the year before), and who is also in charge of many pro footballers from Brest. You get more for your money than with the average osteopath or physio.
So... he didn't rule out the flat feet explanation, he was even the first one to point at it four years ago. But what's more interesting is that h examined my running shoes and soles. Nothing to say about the shoes, but it's a whole different story for the soles.
He was more than curious about the thickness difference below the heels.
After examining me he noticed some blockings down my back and on my pelvis, as well as still strained groins. He got me rid of the various blockings. After further examination my pelvis is normally balanced, and both my legs are the same length.
So... the soles create a wrong balance. Which creates tensions on one leg, and results in the ever lasting problems I've been through for months.
I must phone another orthopaedist (the one who made my first orthopaedic soles in 2009) and see him before the end of my holidays (3 days left). I'll get new soles within two or three weeks, then I'll be able to run.
Finally...
In his opinion the height difference between the soles probably results from the fact that I had some blockings when I made the prints and molds of my feet six months ago.
|
| |
|
|
| miggi133 |
Posted on 22-08-2013 14:38
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3141
Joined: 19-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Aquarius wrote:
I've seen an osteopath this morning, the one who got me back on my feet in 2009 (a rheumatologist had stated I was lost for running and walking the year before), and who is also in charge of many pro footballers from Brest. You get more for your money than with the average osteopath or physio.
So... he didn't rule out the flat feet explanation, he was even the first one to point at it four years ago. But what's more interesting is that h examined my running shoes and soles. Nothing to say about the shoes, but it's a whole different story for the soles.
He was more than curious about the thickness difference below the heels.
After examining me he noticed some blockings down my back and on my pelvis, as well as still strained groins. He got me rid of the various blockings. After further examination my pelvis is normally balanced, and both my legs are the same length.
So... the soles create a wrong balance. Which creates tensions on one leg, and results in the ever lasting problems I've been through for months.
I must phone another orthopaedist (the one who made my first orthopaedic soles in 2009) and see him before the end of my holidays (3 days left). I'll get new soles within two or three weeks, then I'll be able to run.
Finally...
In his opinion the height difference between the soles probably results from the fact that I had some blockings when I made the prints and molds of my feet six months ago.
Good to hear!
|
| |
|
|
| itsmichael |
Posted on 26-08-2013 22:41
|
Domestique
Posts: 599
Joined: 04-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Ran sunday a 10km in competition and I did it! finally a time under the 40minutes; 39.46, new pb (:
Twitter; @CuriousThing_s  |
| |
|
|
| fcancellara |
Posted on 26-08-2013 22:49
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5194
Joined: 18-08-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
itsmichael wrote:
Ran sunday a 10km in competition and I did it! finally a time under the 40minutes; 39.46, new pb (:
Nice!
I ran the unofficial National Championships for C-Juniors (this year 1998 and 1999) yesterday, I had a great race and improved my 800 m time by over 3 seconds, my new PB is 2:16.43
|
| |
|
|
| itsmichael |
Posted on 26-08-2013 23:04
|
Domestique
Posts: 599
Joined: 04-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
fcancellara wrote:
itsmichael wrote:
Ran sunday a 10km in competition and I did it! finally a time under the 40minutes; 39.46, new pb (:
Nice!
I ran the unofficial National Championships for C-Juniors (this year 1998 and 1999) yesterday, I had a great race and improved my 800 m time by over 3 seconds, my new PB is 2:16.43
Nice!! you probably had to race against my team mate haha! he ran 2.15.02 or something (:
And i improved my 800 friday in Gouda- 2,14.92
Twitter; @CuriousThing_s |
| |
|
|
| fcancellara |
Posted on 27-08-2013 01:06
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5194
Joined: 18-08-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
itsmichael wrote:
fcancellara wrote:
itsmichael wrote:
Ran sunday a 10km in competition and I did it! finally a time under the 40minutes; 39.46, new pb (:
Nice!
I ran the unofficial National Championships for C-Juniors (this year 1998 and 1999) yesterday, I had a great race and improved my 800 m time by over 3 seconds, my new PB is 2:16.43
Nice!! you probably had to race against my team mate haha! he ran 2.15.02 or something (:
And i improved my 800 friday in Gouda- 2,14.92
Well, there were 6 heats... 
|
| |
|
|
| jseadog1 |
Posted on 27-08-2013 01:32
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 9595
Joined: 18-07-2010
PCM$: 13552.00
|
So as a collegiate runner now, here is my new running schedule, its very hard for me.
https://www.running-log.com/calendar?a...teid=54126
PCM.Daily Survivor Season 2 Fan Favorite Winner
PCM.Daily NFL Fantasy Football Champion: 2012
PCM.Daily NHL Prediction Game Champion: 2013
PCM.Daily NFL Prediction Game Champion: 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2021
|
| |
|
|
| fcancellara |
Posted on 27-08-2013 01:41
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5194
Joined: 18-08-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Damn...
Make sure to not to overdo it, that causes injuries.
|
| |
|
|
| jseadog1 |
Posted on 27-08-2013 01:45
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 9595
Joined: 18-07-2010
PCM$: 13552.00
|
fcancellara wrote:
Damn...
Make sure to not to overdo it, that causes injuries.
I get pain in my arches quite often, I need to invest in some insoles.
PCM.Daily Survivor Season 2 Fan Favorite Winner
PCM.Daily NFL Fantasy Football Champion: 2012
PCM.Daily NHL Prediction Game Champion: 2013
PCM.Daily NFL Prediction Game Champion: 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2021
|
| |
|
|
| Aquarius |
Posted on 27-08-2013 06:58
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5220
Joined: 29-11-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
That's about 71 km max per week. It looks more like what I have on schedule (when not injured) for 10-21 km events, than a program for a young 5 000 m runner.
The transition to the seniors might be a bit hard, but after a while you'll cope (unless you get injured all the time like me ).
Insoles are almost necessary for every long distance runner, even with a very slight correction, as well as not too used shoes (500-700 km max for me). |
| |
|
|
| Spilak23 |
Posted on 05-09-2013 21:09
|
Team Leader
Posts: 7357
Joined: 22-08-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
So, after gaining 20 kgs over the span of one year I decided to start running to get a bit healthier. Did 5 kms twice this week and I'm happy with that. I did suffer though
But I got a question: Anybody knows a good way to keep your Iphone on you while running? Would be usefull to listen to music and track my runs
|
| |
|
|
| Aquarius |
Posted on 05-09-2013 21:15
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5220
Joined: 29-11-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
To track your runs, use strava, it works fine on iphones (either for running or cycling). I don't listen to music with mine, so I couldn't tell you, but I guess it works.
And join us (PCM.daily) on Strava if you do. |
| |
|
|
| miggi133 |
Posted on 05-09-2013 22:10
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3141
Joined: 19-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
The thing with the music is personal preference (I myself listen to music while I do warm Ups before a race)... There are clips for Iphone and Ipods that can be strapped to your upper arm. Alternatively, if you have a pair of running tights or sprinter shorts, they have a pocket in the region of the arse, where you can fit the phone in (at least you should be able to...). The pockets are designed to not actively disturb you while you are running...
|
| |
|
|
| Aquarius |
Posted on 05-09-2013 22:49
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5220
Joined: 29-11-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
I could barely put my car keys in my running short, no way I could ever put something as big as an iPhone in there.
I've only used it four times or so when I ran, as it's rather dull to keep it in my hand. The arm strap is definitely the way to go, especially to listen to music whilst running. I don't do that though, nor when I cycle. I've tried it in the past, but it's disturbing to not hear runners or cars arriving behind you. |
| |
|
|
| cactus-jack |
Posted on 05-09-2013 22:57
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3936
Joined: 31-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
My "season" is coming to an end (thank God), I've only got till the end of september before I reduce my cardio training and up my core training over the winter.
I'm definately on a "downward spiral" form-wise and my shins arn't to pleased... I've got one last record attempt at 1 mile before I call it quit.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
|
| |
|
|
| cactus-jack |
Posted on 05-09-2013 22:57
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3936
Joined: 31-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
My "season" is coming to an end (thank God), I've only got till the end of september before I reduce my cardio training and up my core training over the winter.
I'm definately on a "downward spiral" form-wise and my shins arn't to pleased... I've got one last record attempt at 1 mile before I call it quit.
I improved on the 5000m from 18.56 to 18.21 after about a month (don't have my papers here now), and my mile-record, 6.05, was set back in May. It was my first go at the distance so I have alot to gain on just better tactics.
Edited by cactus-jack on 06-09-2013 11:56
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
|
| |
|
|
| golance123 |
Posted on 09-09-2013 20:34
|
Free Agent
Posts: 132
Joined: 17-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
I was struggling with inflammation and pain in my Achilles last week in training leading up to my first race of the collegiate cross country season. However, ice and electric stimulation therapy helped reduce the pain and inflammation for the race on Saturday. I set a new 8K PR of 30:06! I'm very happy with the result, as I have a lot of room for improvement with my form. Hoping to be well into the 29's by the end of the season! |
| |
|
|
| itsmichael |
Posted on 09-09-2013 21:44
|
Domestique
Posts: 599
Joined: 04-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Just did my last serious training for Saterday. 15k in 1.06.. Stockholm here I come!! I'm kinda nervous haha.
Twitter; @CuriousThing_s |
| |
|
