|
2012 DB: Stat Discussions
|
| Zoom123 |
Posted on 22-05-2012 13:02
|
Neo-Pro
Posts: 294
Joined: 21-04-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
felix_29 wrote:
Have Cameron Meyer and Luke Durbridge have been mentioned? Meyer climbed well in Tirenno and in the AToC, Durbridge also surprised there.
I´d give Meyer about 70, Durbridge about 64 after those performances.
And Stybar should at least have a much higher potential as he proved he can win road races
+1 They both proved they are ok in the climbs
|
| |
|
|
| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 22-05-2012 13:19
|
Small Tour Specialist
Posts: 2253
Joined: 19-10-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
felix_29 wrote:
Have Cameron Meyer and Luke Durbridge have been mentioned? Meyer climbed well in Tirenno and in the AToC, Durbridge also surprised there.
I´d give Meyer about 70, Durbridge about 64 after those performances.
And Stybar should at least have a much higher potential as he proved he can win road races
After watching Cam Meyer climb terrificially in the Australian Championships in January, I've always thought he deserved a 68-72 rating. Finally someone agrees.
Plus Durbridge's TT should be improved to 77. 
|
| |
|
|
| ruben |
Posted on 22-05-2012 13:33
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 7721
Joined: 23-10-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
If Meyer is improved to 68/72 than Kelderman should be improved well.
To my own suprise he is actually climbing better than TT-ing. Would have thought other way around. |
| |
|
|
| Alakagom |
Posted on 22-05-2012 15:21
|
World Champion
Posts: 10891
Joined: 19-11-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
Teddy The Creator Meyer's climbing and hill stats are improved now. About Durbridge, well definitely not  He was only 8th in California and beaten by riders with less than 77 in TT, 77 is close to world class, which he isn't yet. But definitely as season goes further on, or next years he'll easily get those sort of TT's stats.
ruben Well, Meyer got 10th at Tirreno which tops Kelderman's best WT result by quite a margin. He's still doing excellent, he did well in Romandie until the TT and did alright in other small races.
Saying that, I think they deserve similar MO stat of around 72-74 and with their potential it should quickly increase.
Edited by Alakagom on 22-05-2012 15:21
|
| |
|
|
| jt1109 |
Posted on 22-05-2012 16:13
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3159
Joined: 23-07-2008
PCM$: 400.00
|
Alakagom wrote:
Teddy The Creator Meyer's climbing and hill stats are improved now. About Durbridge, well definitely not He was only 8th in California and beaten by riders with less than 77 in TT, 77 is close to world class, which he isn't yet. But definitely as season goes further on, or next years he'll easily get those sort of TT's stats.
ruben Well, Meyer got 10th at Tirreno which tops Kelderman's best WT result by quite a margin. He's still doing excellent, he did well in Romandie until the TT and did alright in other small races.
Saying that, I think they deserve similar MO stat of around 72-74 and with their potential it should quickly increase.
"Cough Cough" my suggestion? "Cough Cough"
Edited by jt1109 on 22-05-2012 16:13
|
| |
|
|
| CountArach |
Posted on 22-05-2012 16:16
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8290
Joined: 14-07-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
jt1109 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Teddy The Creator Meyer's climbing and hill stats are improved now. About Durbridge, well definitely not He was only 8th in California and beaten by riders with less than 77 in TT, 77 is close to world class, which he isn't yet. But definitely as season goes further on, or next years he'll easily get those sort of TT's stats.
ruben Well, Meyer got 10th at Tirreno which tops Kelderman's best WT result by quite a margin. He's still doing excellent, he did well in Romandie until the TT and did alright in other small races.
Saying that, I think they deserve similar MO stat of around 72-74 and with their potential it should quickly increase.
"Cough Cough" my suggestion? "Cough Cough"
I get the feeling he is only responding to the better-known riders who are more likely to be controversial. Unless of course he is ignoring us on purpose.
|
| |
|
|
| Alakagom |
Posted on 22-05-2012 16:17
|
World Champion
Posts: 10891
Joined: 19-11-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
jt1109 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Teddy The Creator Meyer's climbing and hill stats are improved now. About Durbridge, well definitely not He was only 8th in California and beaten by riders with less than 77 in TT, 77 is close to world class, which he isn't yet. But definitely as season goes further on, or next years he'll easily get those sort of TT's stats.
ruben Well, Meyer got 10th at Tirreno which tops Kelderman's best WT result by quite a margin. He's still doing excellent, he did well in Romandie until the TT and did alright in other small races.
Saying that, I think they deserve similar MO stat of around 72-74 and with their potential it should quickly increase.
"Cough Cough" my suggestion? "Cough Cough"
Yeah, I look at all suggestion and update accordingly but don't always post here that I looked at everyone suggestions So yeah, Scott Thwaites stats are updated
Same with you CountArach, I agree with those and I update them. Nothing to argue about so no need for me to post I looked at them. I always look at everyone suggestions and update the DB accordingly
Edited by Alakagom on 22-05-2012 16:18
|
| |
|
|
| jt1109 |
Posted on 22-05-2012 16:21
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3159
Joined: 23-07-2008
PCM$: 400.00
|
Alakagom wrote:
jt1109 wrote:
"Cough Cough" my suggestion? "Cough Cough"
Yeah, I look at all suggestion and update accordingly but don't always post here that I looked at everyone suggestions So yeah, Scott Thwaites stats are updated
Same with you CountArach, I agree with those and I update them. Nothing to argue about so no need for me to post I looked at them. I always look at everyone suggestions
Just making sure! thought you might not have seen them with them being on the other page. |
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 29-09-2024 22:22
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| ruben |
Posted on 22-05-2012 22:46
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 7721
Joined: 23-10-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
Teddy The Creator wrote:
felix_29 wrote:
Have Cameron Meyer and Luke Durbridge have been mentioned? Meyer climbed well in Tirenno and in the AToC, Durbridge also surprised there.
I´d give Meyer about 70, Durbridge about 64 after those performances.
And Stybar should at least have a much higher potential as he proved he can win road races
After watching Cam Meyer climb terrificially in the Australian Championships in January, I've always thought he deserved a 68-72 rating. Finally someone agrees.
Plus Durbridge's TT should be improved to 77.
If Durbridge TT is 77 than what is Gesink? 79
Lol. Durbridge is a great TT talent but not that good. |
| |
|
|
| CountArach |
Posted on 24-05-2012 17:16
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8290
Joined: 14-07-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Robin Stenuit (Wallonie - Bruxelles Credit) should have sprint and acceleration both in the high 60s because he has had a few top 10s in the last two years, including yesterday at Ronde van Belgie.
|
| |
|
|
| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-05-2012 00:19
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 16362
Joined: 27-07-2011
PCM$: 10038.70
|
Probably been mentioned, but Hesjedal should have a 78 in mtn, maybe even a 79 if he wins the Giro.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
| |
|
|
| Alakagom |
Posted on 26-05-2012 17:23
|
World Champion
Posts: 10891
Joined: 19-11-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
I am not sure if the Giro stats will be updated when the final version will be released, but here you have few rider stats think will be changed. Obviously this was done quickly and I omitted many riders that stats will be changed, those are top off my head
Hesjedal ----> 80/81 MO
Basso ----> 79/80 MO
Slagter ----> 75 HI
Uran ----> 78 MO
Pozzovivo ----> 78 MO
De Gendt -----> 78 MO
Edited by Alakagom on 26-05-2012 17:24
|
| |
|
|
| marble |
Posted on 26-05-2012 17:29
|
Neo-Pro
Posts: 389
Joined: 28-07-2007
PCM$: 400.00
|
I believe Ion Izagirre deserves a boost aswell. |
| |
|
|
| Neilstrong |
Posted on 26-05-2012 17:44
|
Under 23
Posts: 77
Joined: 04-01-2012
PCM$: 300.00
|
Alakagom wrote:
I am not sure if the Giro stats will be updated when the final version will be released, but here you have few rider stats think will be changed. Obviously this was done quickly and I omitted many riders that stats will be changed, those are top off my head
Hesjedal ----> 80/81 MO
Basso ----> 79/80 MO
Slagter ----> 75 HI
Uran ----> 78 MO
Pozzovivo ----> 78 MO
De Gendt -----> 78 MO
Hesjedal doesn't deserve more then 79 MO. Don't raise him too high. Instead lower Scarponi, Basso and Rodriguez.
And Rujano should be lowered alot. Maybe down to 77-78 MO. He had a great Giro in 2011, but this year he was a huge disappointment. |
| |
|
|
| fcancellara |
Posted on 26-05-2012 17:46
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5194
Joined: 18-08-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Alakagom wrote:
I am not sure if the Giro stats will be updated when the final version will be released, but here you have few rider stats think will be changed. Obviously this was done quickly and I omitted many riders that stats will be changed, those are top off my head
Hesjedal ----> 80/81 MO
Basso ----> 79/80 MO
Slagter ----> 75 HI
Uran ----> 78 MO
Pozzovivo ----> 78 MO
De Gendt -----> 78 MO
Mhm. Hesjedal 79 MO, Basso 79 MO, Uran 78 MO, Pozzovivo 77 MO, De Gendt 78 MO
|
| |
|
|
| valverde321 |
Posted on 26-05-2012 18:13
|
World Champion
Posts: 12986
Joined: 20-05-2009
PCM$: 530.00
|
De Gendt should get 77 MO imo.
He's attacking, but when was he able to actually stay with the Hesjedal, Purito, Scarponi group in the mountains?
If you gave him 78 he would be able to and I dont think that's right.
As for Hesjedal 79 MO but also better REC, RES, STA would be best.
|
| |
|
|
| fcancellara |
Posted on 26-05-2012 18:19
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 5194
Joined: 18-08-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
valverde321 wrote:
De Gendt should get 77 MO imo.
He's attacking, but when was he able to actually stay with the Hesjedal, Purito, Scarponi group in the mountains?
If you gave him 78 he would be able to and I dont think that's right.
As for Hesjedal 79 MO but also better REC, RES, STA would be best.
Remember last year's Alpe d'Huez
|
| |
|
|
| 619170 |
Posted on 26-05-2012 18:26
|
Under 23
Posts: 75
Joined: 04-05-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
Hesjedal - 80/78 more REC than J Rod
J Rod - 80
Scarponi - 80
Basso - 79
Pozzo - 78
Uran 78
De Gendt - 77
Henao - 77
MO
Edited by 619170 on 26-05-2012 18:30
|
| |
|
|
| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-05-2012 20:03
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 16362
Joined: 27-07-2011
PCM$: 10038.70
|
Alakagom wrote:
I am not sure if the Giro stats will be updated when the final version will be released, but here you have few rider stats think will be changed. Obviously this was done quickly and I omitted many riders that stats will be changed, those are top off my head
Hesjedal ----> 80/81 MO
Basso ----> 79/80 MO
Slagter ----> 75 HI
Uran ----> 78 MO
Pozzovivo ----> 78 MO
De Gendt -----> 78 MO
Hesjedal-> 79
Scarponi-> 80
Purito-> 80
Basso->79
Pozzo->78
Uran->77
De Gendt-> 76
Henao-> 77
Rujano->50
Kreuzinger-> less recovery
A consistency stat would come in really handy right now.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
| |
|
|
| AiZaK |
Posted on 26-05-2012 21:02
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1190
Joined: 13-04-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
In my opinion:
Purito 80
Scarponi 80
Basso 79
Hesjedal 79
Cunego 77
Uran 77/78
Henao 77
Nieve 77
De Gendt 77
Pozzovivo 78 |
| |
|
