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EPIC - Offseason RENEWALS and DRAFT
Ollfardh
TheManxMissile wrote:
Official Complaint that Hanzen didn't get the free Res Upgrade


Don't have my files with me, but I seem to remember he scored well below 50% on the first update round.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
TheManxMissile
Yeah he did but he's still been updating all season long.

Also on the Natural Progression: How does the Season Break 2 Support Pack play in? That was +1 to FL, ACC, STA and REC but it was sold as a cheap pack not as individual updates. Does this mean any rider who had the stat pack applied can't upgrade these support stats?
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sgdanny
Well he said you can't update a stat a 2nd time Wink
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TheManxMissile
Well that wasn't a normal upgrade so i thought i'd check
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Ollfardh
Support pack counts as 4 upgraded stats, yes Smile
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
The Hobbit
Bardiani Stat Upgrades

It pays to have a young squad Pfft

Francesco Bongiorno (22) Mountain : 73
Sonny Colbrelli (22) Acceleration: 75
Enrico Barbin (22) Hill: 73
Enrico Battaglin (23) Acceleration: 76
Edoardo Zardini (23) Hill: 72
Nicola Boem: (23) Flat: 66
Alfredo Balloni (23) Mountain: 72
Antonio Santoro (23) Mountain: 67
Donato de Ieso (23) Mountain: 69
Stefano Locatelli (23) Mountain: 73
Christian Delle Stelle (23) Acceleration: 71
Filippo Fortin (23) Sprint: 74
Marco Canola (24) Sprint: 73
Marco Coledan (24) Flat: 68
Andrea di Corrado (24) Flat: 68
Angelo Pagani (24) Hill: 71
Filippo Baggio (24) Sprint: 72
Andrea Pasqualon (24) Hill: 72
Sacha Modolo (25) Sprint: 77

Presuming it is before 19th November 2013, Mucelli is still 26? Therefore...
Davide Mucelli (26) Hill: 73

Stefano Pirazzi: NO UPGRADE: Fighter already at 84. (even though fighter does nothing in 3D *grumble* *grumble*

Sorry if I got any ages wrong, as I am working off the ages at the start of the season, since the date is not given.
 
Dippofix
The Hobbit wrote:
Bardiani Stat Upgrades

It pays to have a young squad Pfft

Francesco Bongiorno (22) Mountain : 73
Sonny Colbrelli (22) Acceleration: 75
Enrico Barbin (22) Hill: 73
Enrico Battaglin (23) Acceleration: 76
Edoardo Zardini (23) Hill: 72
Nicola Boem: (23) Flat: 66
Alfredo Balloni (23) Mountain: 72
Antonio Santoro (23) Mountain: 67
Donato de Ieso (23) Mountain: 69
Stefano Locatelli (23) Mountain: 73
Christian Delle Stelle (23) Acceleration: 71
Filippo Fortin (23) Sprint: 74
Marco Canola (24) Sprint: 73
Marco Coledan (24) Flat: 68
Andrea di Corrado (24) Flat: 68
Angelo Pagani (24) Hill: 71
Filippo Baggio (24) Sprint: 72
Andrea Pasqualon (24) Hill: 72
Sacha Modolo (25) Sprint: 77

Presuming it is before 19th November 2013, Mucelli is still 26? Therefore...
Davide Mucelli (26) Hill: 73

Stefano Pirazzi: NO UPGRADE: Fighter already at 84. (even though fighter does nothing in 3D *grumble* *grumble*

Sorry if I got any ages wrong, as I am working off the ages at the start of the season, since the date is not given.

Fighter doesn't count for those IIRC. Wink
 
TheManxMissile
Better to check than be punished. Also hadn't realised i'd only upgrade three riders at all this season so i'm about as unrestricted as could be, lol. Obviously not giving any upgrades to riders i'm not renewing and as FDJ is a younger focused team only the one rider to downgrade by 1 point :lol:

FDJ
Demare21CB>74 RES>71
Elissonde21HL>74 REC>70
Le Bon22TT>75
Bouhanni22SP>79
Pinot22MT>78
Vichot24HL>76
Geniez24MT>75
Soupe24SP>74
Roux25HL>74
Offredo26CB>76


Demare has previously had FL, STA, REC, MO and HL upgraded.
Elissonde has previously had MO and CB upgraded

Fedrigo34FTR>77


My only rider over 34 and only 1 stat over 75 and it's still boss! I laugh at your puny attempts to make my riders worse Pfft
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Ollfardh
Yeah, you can add an upgrade for Pirazzi, Dippo is correct. Indeed teams like Bardiani need this rule to make having a young squad worthwile Smile
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
Dippofix
Garmin Progression
Lachlan Morton (20) Mo 73, Rec 69
Jakob Rathe (21) Spr 71, Acc 72
Rohan Dennis (22) Pro 78
Raymond Kreder (23) Spr 74
Nathan Haas (23) Hi 74
Andrew Talansky (24) Rec 78
Ramunas Navardauskas (24) Spr 74
Alex Howes (25) Hi 73
Steele von Hoff (25) Spr 75
Michel Kreder (25) Spr 74
Peter Stetina (25) Hi 75

Decline:
Tom Danielson (34) Mo 75
Robert Hunter (35) Dh 74, Fig 74
David Millar (35) Fig 76
Christian Vande Velde (36) Fl 69, Mo 72, Hi 71, TT 72, Pro 71, Sta 72, Rec 72
Andreas Klier (36) Fl 71, Cob 70
 
Shonak
Netapp
Schwarzmann (21) ACC 70 FL 68
Rowsell (22) HL 67
Thwaites (22) 71
Matzka (23) FL 69
McEvoy (23) FL 70
De la Cruz (23) HL 72
Schorn (24) FL 71
Jarc (24) FL 72
König (25) PRL 73
Dempster (25) FL 72
Benedetti (25) HL 68
Wetterhall (26) TT 72
Voss (26) ACC 73
Kluge (26) SP 74


Downing (34) Decline: None
Edited by Shonak on 15-12-2014 19:54
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Dippofix
Shonak wrote:
Netapp
Schwarzmann (21) ACC 70 FL 68
Rowsell (22) HL 67
Thwaites (22) 71
Matzka (23) FL 69
McEvoy (23) FL 70
De la Cruz (23) HL 72
Schorn (24) FL 71
Jarc (24) FL 72
König (25) PRL 73
Dempster (25) FL 72
Benedetti (25) HL 68
Wetterhall (26) TT 72
Voss (26) ACC 73
Kluge (26) SP 74
Mendes (27) MT 74
Barta (28) TT 77
Schillinger (29)FL 70
Eichler (30) FL 70
Huzarski (32) HL 74
Camano (33) TT 71


Downing (34) Decline: None

Need to take them out, progress only goes till age 26. Wink
 
Atlantius
EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI

Pello Bilbao (22) Fla 68
Garikoitz Bravo (23) Mou 67
Jon Aberasturi (23) Spr 72
Mikel Landa (23) Fla 67
Ion Izagirre (23) Prl 74
Juan Jose Lobato (24) Hill 68
Miguel Mínguez (24) Hill 73
Ricardo García (24) Mou 67
Romain Sicard (25) Mou 72
Gorka Izagirre (25) Mou 73
Adrián Sáez de Arregi (26) TT 69
Tarik Chaoufi (26) Hill 67

Egoi Martínez (34) Ftr 77
Gorka Verdugo (34) Mou 74
Samuel Sánchez (34) Mou 76, Hill 75, DH 81, Ftr 76, Sta 74
Stefan Radochla (34) Too crappy to get any worse despite getting old
André Schulze (38) Fla 69, Mou 51, Hill 63, TT 58, Prl 65, Cob 59, Spr 70, Acc 70, DH 70, Ftr 62, Sta 66, Res 64, Rec 63

Bring special attention to Schulze's mountain stat which surely makes him a very unique rider in the WT Wink


Ollfardh wrote:
Finaly, these riders will be removed, so don't count on them. Compensations will go into your budget.

Robert Vrecer Euskaltel

Really didn't think I would get anything for him excpt a vacant spot on the team. I like the EPICUCI.

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Shonak
Dippofix wrote:
Need to take them out, progress only goes till age 26. Wink

Right thx (tired from work), nobody saw anything!
Edited by Shonak on 15-12-2014 19:53
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Cycleman123
So just to clarify, Durbridge's TT upgrade doesn't count?

EDIT: Or is it Stamina, because without that it would be fine?
Edited by Cycleman123 on 15-12-2014 21:07
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knockout
Movistar


Ospina (21) - 69MO,68HI
del Pino (21)- 76MO,79COB
Herrada (22) - 73HI
Sanz (23) - 74SP
Dowsett (23) - 78TT
Madrazo (24) - 74HI
Castroviejo (25) - 77TT
Amador (26) - 77TT
Capecchi (26) - 74MO
Intxausti (26) - 75TT

Lastras (36) - 69FL, 73DH, 70END, 70REC, 71HI, 73FIG

Also, it would have been cool to see a list of all previously upgraded stats bec it is a pain to search though the whole forum to search for them.
(You surely have one already to check our updates if they're legit?)
I could not be bothered so I just guessed what might have been upgraded by me. So better check everything three or four times if you want to see punishments!
At least all of the riders are eligible so I won't get a budget cut which is the most important for me for now. If an upgrade will be refused due to another upgrade on the same rider then ...

Spoiler
I've to say that I am not a fan of these rules. The gained bonus is far too few for young talents while it is too much for riders better & equally old as Amador!) so that this will destroy the stat matrix on longterm view completely!
With the current rules only the rider's top stats will develop so you'll have plenty of mediocre riders with only one decent stat which cannot be your wish. Together with the ridiculous upgrade prizes (equal prizes for 56->57 & 79->80) this will further raise the tendency of only upgrading top rider's top stat!)

It should depend more on age and also on the current ability so that a Ospina gets improved (far) more than an Intxausti.
Also, the older riders like Valverde, Purito, Szmyd or Gutierrez should already start to get worse!

A Big Thank You To All MG Reporters!

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Cycleman123
Hold on so are riders born in 1991 considered to be 21 or 22?

EDIT: While I'm asking questions, can we choose not to upgrade someone?
Edited by Cycleman123 on 15-12-2014 21:14
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Ollfardh
Knockout, I explained why it was hard to give you an overview a few pages ago. Thanks for the rest of the feedback though, I agree with most of it.

And Del Pino looks off a bit?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
knockout
Riders born in 1991 are considered 21 as their age from 01/01/2013 counts. As long as they are not born on 01/01/1991 then they would be 22.

You can choose to not upgrade someone. TMM did so before. Or you could just make a not allowed upgrade on someone. Then the punishment of Oldfart will be used to make the upgrade removed Pfft
A Big Thank You To All MG Reporters!

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trekbmc
Vaconsoleil


Danny Van Poppel (20) AC 77 FL 75
Barry Markus (22) SP 77
Wesley Kreder (23) SP 73
Maurits Lammertink (23) SP 73
Willem Wauters (24) FL 68
Bert-Jan Lindeman (24) FL 73
Pim Ligthart (25) HL 72
Martijn Keizer (25) TT 72
Boy Van Poppel (25) SP 74
Wout Poels (26) MO 76
Rafael Valls (26) HL 74
Kris Boeckmans (26) SP 76
Juan Antonio Flecha (36) FL 76 HL 71 PR 72 CB 76 AC 71 DH 74 FTR 82 STA 75 RES 69
Bjorn Leukemans (36) FL 74 CB 75 FTR 75 STA 75



Nooooooo Flecha lost so much! Sad Van Poppel is increasing heaps though. Pfft



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