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Sky Doping/Hate Thread
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 27-06-2014 13:49
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Cyanide266 wrote:
It is also mentioned that Cookson's son works for Sky... That proves that the change of leadership in the UCI changed nothing. The institutions of cycling should be destroyed and rebuilt.
Being very honest I've never met any working for Sky/British Cycling that says they "like" Dave B or have a personal relationship with him the only person I've ever heard of as such are David Millar and Brain Cookson... though that's not suspicious at all
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 27-06-2014 13:52
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Eden95 wrote:
Sky are a clusterfuck of bullshit.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 24-01-2015 13:12
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Leindeers was just giving them training methods, huh. With what has occurred, does anyone else thing this good be the beginning of the end for this regime?
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 24-01-2015 13:24
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Very much doubt it. Leinders case is over and nothing in news was linked to Sky, only ''hardcore'' fans noticed which says a lot.
With Cookson there, Sky committing to 2020 with their sponsorship of the team they will be here for the long run.
There would have to be a major doping fail test within a team, and since 2012 I've said, there won't be any positives coming out of that team while they are currently racing, that's given.
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| gargatouf |
Posted on 26-01-2015 11:53
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I think Sky did well in giving him a bullshit title like "consultant" or something along these lines right from the start as it made it look like he wasn't involved very much in the decision making process.
Maybe he was the main doctor, maybe he was indeed just a consultant. Hard to say. It was a strange appointment for a team that has always claimed they would not take anyone on that has been linked to doping.
I don't want to start the debate all over again, but I don't trust anything remotely linked to Rupert Murdoch and his empire (TV, newspapers etc...), let alone the cycling team. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 26-01-2015 12:05
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This is not actually a debate. You either accept the fact that SKY is doping powerhouse or you are blind/wanna stay blind. 
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| gargatouf |
Posted on 26-01-2015 12:20
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
This is not actually a debate. You either accept the fact that SKY is doping powerhouse or you are blind/wanna stay blind.
It must be a debate, there are almost 150 pages on this thread!!!
I personally think they dope. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 26-01-2015 12:36
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gargatouf wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
This is not actually a debate. You either accept the fact that SKY is doping powerhouse or you are blind/wanna stay blind.
It must be a debate, there are almost 150 pages on this thread!!!
I personally think they dope.
Nah, 148 pages are SKY fanboys with their "logic".
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 26-01-2015 12:38
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No confession or positive test, no doping.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 26-01-2015 12:45
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| gargatouf |
Posted on 26-01-2015 13:22
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TheManxMissile wrote:
No confession or positive test, no doping.
You must be one of the fanboys Avin is talking about. Pretty poor reasoning to think that as there has not been a positive test means that Sky (or other teams for that matter) don't dope.
US Postal didn't have positive tests or confessions for years, but that didn't stop them doping.
It's a known fact that dopers are years ahead of the anti-doping agencies and have probably got different drugs that they can use that will not be found for years. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 26-01-2015 13:41
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Actually they had, but they just had money to back those positives up if you know what I mean... |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 26-01-2015 14:34
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Riis123 wrote:
Actually they had, but they just had money to back those positives up if you know what I mean... Sky might be doing this
I think they are doped,especially Froome
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 27-01-2015 16:25
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You can't be sure Sky are doping without evidence, what evidence do you have? Other wise its accusations.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 27-01-2015 16:26
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Ste117 wrote:
You can't be sure Sky are doping without evidence, what evidence do you have? Other wise its accusations.
Read the last 148 pages...  |
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 27-01-2015 16:27
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Ian Butler wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
You can't be sure Sky are doping without evidence, what evidence do you have? Other wise its accusations.
Read the last 148 pages...
Not a chance that will take me all week haha 
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 27-01-2015 16:32
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No but seriously what conclusive evidence is there that Sky dope? Otherwise it's all just accusations from jealous people who can't accept that Sky were the best team in the world for a period
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 27-01-2015 16:34
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TheManxMissile wrote:
No but seriously what conclusive evidence is there that Sky dope? Otherwise it's all just accusations from jealous people who can't accept that Sky were the best team in the world for a period
There is no conclusive evidence, only a bunch of indirect evidence/suspicion. Otherwise this thread wouldn't be a discussion but a one-page fact.
That said, there are some pretty strong arguments somewhere in these 149 pages, but I guess we'll never know 100% for sure (or maybe one day we will). |
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| Selwink |
Posted on 27-01-2015 16:36
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As already said many times in this thread there's no conclusive proof indeed. However, there's a lot of cicrumstantial evidence Sky, or at least its leaders, dope. The accusations, therefore, are in my opinion logical, but not necessarily correct.
e: Betancur'd, maybe Pozzato'd
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 27-01-2015 16:46
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I think such a Sky Hate thread is bullshit. I think they dope, but so does every other WT team....Astana, Belkin, Etixxl, and more. Also, even if they dope, what performance enhancements does the rider have? 3%? 2%? 1%?
I think it's just sad that the cycling community tries to blame a team, and that meanwhile, the media is still putting their finger on cycling...I mean, how can a sport survive, if even the Fanbase tries to blame the riders. I live in Germany. In Germany, our state-run TV channels boycott cycling. Nothing on the TV, not even News about Kittels wins f.e., nothing. We have luck that we have Eurosport, who cover this.
But still, we sit here, hate on a team, while our media just searchers for a top story. Nothing is easier for the media, than just to relax and watch, how the fanbase blames the riders and then just to take our accusations and to put them in a story..."Cycling: More doping than ever." could be a typical Blockbuster storyline. And if the media finish off cycling, the fanbase will get smaller and smaller. And at some point, the sponsors of the cycling teams pull out. I love cycling. I don't want to lose it. But I think, if the fanbase is just hating above a team that dopes, while(in my opinion) everyone dopes, the sport can't survive for long.
Sorry for this post, but I get pissed of at such a thread.
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