Close, but I'd like to have some guys on 81 as well, probably Valverde & Rodriguez. Uran is 79 in my eyes.
Valverde & Rodriguez ??? haha
They do not near Nibali. Even Froome with a prelude with many injuries and Contador with a skater also, beats them easily. Contador and Froome with a perfect prelude had smashing them at least as large as Nibali.
Edited by Arberg27 on 09-09-2014 11:21
After 6.41 w/kg on La Farrapon for Contador and Froome(6.09 on Hautacam for Nibbles) after an injury, I think the gap between them and Nibali is much bigger. I know it's the Tour but still that doesn't mean we should give +1 stats on the riders at le Tour. I'd say 83:Froome and Contador 82:Quintana 81:Nibali 80:Purito, Valverde(I know he sucked at le Tour but he never does well there and then strikes at the Vuelta) 79:Pinot, Aru, Uran, Majka, Peraud
The rest are fine for me.
Edited by dark_x2012 on 09-09-2014 11:32
dark_x2012 wrote:
After 6.41 w/kg on La Farrapon for Contador and Froome(6.09 on Hautacam for Nibbles) after an injury, I think the gap between them and Nibali is much bigger. I know it's the Tour but still that doesn't mean we should give +1 stats on the riders at le Tour. I'd say 83:Froome and Contador 82:Quintana 81:Nibali 80:Purito, Valverde(I know he sucked at le Tour but he never does well there and then strikes at the Vuelta) 79:Pinot, Aru, Uran, Majka, Peraud
The rest are fine for me.
Well, no way Nibali should stay 2 points lower than Froome and Contador.
dark_x2012 wrote:
After 6.41 w/kg on La Farrapon for Contador and Froome(6.09 on Hautacam for Nibbles) after an injury, I think the gap between them and Nibali is much bigger. I know it's the Tour but still that doesn't mean we should give +1 stats on the riders at le Tour. I'd say 83:Froome and Contador 82:Quintana 81:Nibali 80:Purito, Valverde(I know he sucked at le Tour but he never does well there and then strikes at the Vuelta) 79:Pinot, Aru, Uran, Majka, Peraud
The rest are fine for me.
looks really good, but maybe Aru should have 80, he is the only climber doing well on two grand tours this year...Nibali was impressive at the Tour but I think the Tour was the weakest of the Grand Tours this year pointing at the quality of climbers...
dark_x2012 wrote:
After 6.41 w/kg on La Farrapon for Contador and Froome(6.09 on Hautacam for Nibbles) after an injury, I think the gap between them and Nibali is much bigger. I know it's the Tour but still that doesn't mean we should give +1 stats on the riders at le Tour. I'd say 83:Froome and Contador 82:Quintana 81:Nibali 80:Purito, Valverde(I know he sucked at le Tour but he never does well there and then strikes at the Vuelta) 79:Pinot, Aru, Uran, Majka, Peraud
The rest are fine for me.
Well, no way Nibali should stay 2 points lower than Froome and Contador.
Said by an Italian it doesn't mean much No seriously he would get destroyed at the Tour by those two. 6.41 w/kg after an injury and two heavy mountain stages + four climbs previously that day.
Edited by dark_x2012 on 09-09-2014 11:41
dark_x2012 wrote:
After 6.41 w/kg on La Farrapon for Contador and Froome(6.09 on Hautacam for Nibbles) after an injury, I think the gap between them and Nibali is much bigger. I know it's the Tour but still that doesn't mean we should give +1 stats on the riders at le Tour. I'd say 83:Froome and Contador 82:Quintana 81:Nibali 80:Purito, Valverde(I know he sucked at le Tour but he never does well there and then strikes at the Vuelta) 79:Pinot, Aru, Uran, Majka, Peraud
The rest are fine for me.
Hautacam takes twice as long time. Find a rise, that takes equally time, and you can compare it. Gilbert should not have 85 mountain because his +25 W / KG upwards Cauberg.
Edited by Arberg27 on 09-09-2014 11:50
Arberg27 wrote:
Hautacam also takes twice as long. Find a rise that takes equally For long and you can compare it. Gilbert should not have 85 mountain because his +20 W/KG upwards Cauberg.
dark_x2012 wrote:
After 6.41 w/kg on La Farrapon for Contador and Froome(6.09 on Hautacam for Nibbles) after an injury, I think the gap between them and Nibali is much bigger. I know it's the Tour but still that doesn't mean we should give +1 stats on the riders at le Tour. I'd say 83:Froome and Contador 82:Quintana 81:Nibali 80:Purito, Valverde(I know he sucked at le Tour but he never does well there and then strikes at the Vuelta) 79:Pinot, Aru, Uran, Majka, Peraud
The rest are fine for me.
Well, no way Nibali should stay 2 points lower than Froome and Contador.
Said by an Italian it doesn't mean much No seriously he would get destroyed at the Tour by those two. 6.41 w/kg after an injury and two heavy mountain stages + four climbs previously that day.
1.You can't prove that I'm italian, e cos'è tutta questa confiedenza? mbah.
2.I really ignore people speaking in hindsight and use scientific statistics, seriously never ssaid that much s's.
In my opninion(Mountain stats
83:Contador-Froome(maybe Froome's STA or REC 1 lower from Contador)
82:Nibali-Quintana
80:Valverde,RodrÃguez,Aru,Pinot,Peraud
79:Uran, TVG, Majka, Bardet,Pozzovivo,Porte(with low recovery),Rolland,D.Martin and maybe Gesink
About Betancur if he gets into form he will be 79 or 80 imo
Edited by Forever the Best on 09-09-2014 14:42
The user formerly known as 'The Schleck Fan' Gracias Alberto.
No seriously he would get destroyed at the Tour by those two. 6.41 w/kg after an injury and two heavy mountain stages + four climbs previously that day.
