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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 17-04-2013 11:23
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Was it this guy?
Edited by cactus-jack on 17-04-2013 11:25
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| TTspecialist |
Posted on 17-04-2013 11:24
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The guy on image above me played some bowling.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 17-04-2013 12:06
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Shit, this is real? 
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 17-04-2013 12:42
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OMG, The cyclist in white had a really lucky escape  |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 17-04-2013 12:45
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Hehe, that was my first avatar in the first social network I ever used. It was so incredible I just had to share it.
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Shit, this is real?
https://autoworld.wordpress.com/2008/0...in-mexico/
Btw, regarding that article, is there really a city named Baghdad in Mexico?
Edited by cio93 on 17-04-2013 12:47
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 17-04-2013 12:49
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Terrible.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 17-04-2013 12:55
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Kinda put's the Hoogerland-incident into perspective 
But terrible, terrible news, that there.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 17-04-2013 13:03
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something that kinda bugged me
how is it the Hoogerland incident? Flecha was the one hit by that car
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 17-04-2013 13:16
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What if we just call it the "Flecherland-incident?"
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| Neilstrong |
Posted on 17-04-2013 13:28
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cactus-jack wrote:
What if we just call it the "Flecherland-incident?"
Or "The Hoocha-incident"  |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 17-04-2013 13:43
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Neilstrong wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
What if we just call it the "Flecherland-incident?"
Or "The Hoocha-incident"
Oh God, I laughed!
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| Metriz- |
Posted on 17-04-2013 14:29
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
something that kinda bugged me
how is it the Hoogerland incident? Flecha was the one hit by that car Because Hoogerland was the one injured the worst, he hasn't been the same rider since, and apparently his wounds from the barbed wire still hurts. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-04-2013 23:49
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Metriz- wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
something that kinda bugged me
how is it the Hoogerland incident? Flecha was the one hit by that car Because Hoogerland was the one injured the worst, he hasn't been the same rider since, and apparently his wounds from the barbed wire still hurts.
His decline had nothing to do with the accident and everything to do with being flagged by the bio passport.
His seasons before and after the accident had similar results other than the outrageous 2009, way before the accident.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 18-04-2013 11:58
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Johan Bruyneel has updated his blog for the first time since August.
He didn't say anything about 'a lot that has happened since his last entry'. But keeps going on about how he loves cycling...
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 18-04-2013 12:57
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confirmed: Chris Hoy Retires
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/...g/22198392
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 18-04-2013 13:15
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Have to say he has done Track cycling proud over the years |
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| fickman |
Posted on 18-04-2013 13:44
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Elbow injury for Pozzovivo. Really bad news 2 weeks before Giro  |
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| Rin |
Posted on 18-04-2013 19:11
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Probably not so news.. :
The trial "Holczer vs. Schumacher" is starting.
Holczer wants 150.000€ of Schumacher, 3 times his (Schumachers) old monthly wage 2008 as Schumacher said he was clean and was finally caught.
Schumacher said that Holczer knew about it, looked away and tolerated if someone doped and was caught.
Schumacher also generally said that he was early doping (well if you are taken into the Telekom team..) and said he used EPO, growth hormones and "kortiko"steroids.
Also it was easy to dope at Gerolsteiner because you "could take the stuff out of the medicine box, it was crazy."
He also said that Holczer came to him after the Amstel 2007 win suggesting that he was doped with the words: "Ey, Schumi, I am not dumb. You can't win Amstel just like that (in the meaning of very easily). But I believe that you, as a world class cyclist, are relatively clean."
Schumacher also talked with Henn about how to dose it afterwards.
Also Holczer said once to Schumacher during the World Championship 2006: "Ey (not a great speaker Holczer with those beginnings?  ), Schumi, did you blow yourself up with that Synctathen? In that heat, it's just obvious!"
After the case with Ricco 2008, Holczer asked everyone in the team if he was doping. Schumacher said that he knew himself that he was very untrustful. Afterwards he wanted to speak with Holczer alone but Holczer didn't want to with the words: "I don't want to know everything about this. But just tell me Schumi if theres a bigger bomb to be explode?"
Schumacher said that you could talk with the doctor about doping and was introduced to CERA early 2008, in April/May he started to take CERA.
And that he (Schumacher) is completely clean now (yes especially when you are riding for Christina Watches?).
Plus he would like to talk about what he knows (for example who doped him), but "not in this room."
At first Holczer said that Schumacher is a liar and thought that stuff out. Especially the talk stuff.
Holczer said that he doesn't knew about doping in the team and doesn't knew that Henn/Schumacher talked about doping stuff.
Also Holczer said that 2008 they only had 2 mesuring devices - thermometers and blood pressure measuring devices.
But he said/admitted? that Gerolsteiner had a measuring device ("machine" for hamatocrit values.
Also the riders got saline solution infusions but "just for therapeutical reasons" and not to hide doping.
He doesn't know about doping (products) neither how to use them or what they do and heard for example of CERA first time during the Tour 2008.
The contract between him and sponsor Gerolsteiner was about clean cycling so it wasn't tolerated if someone was doping.
Also the team got rid of those Armstrongish stuff like those certificates for each rider to use for example Cortisone even though if they doesn't really need it.
Holczer said that he was seen in cycling as THE figure of clean cycling in the cycling "circus" because he would immediately do against those dopers for example fire them immediately and not tolerate it like "doped, fired and doing nothing against it in the team".
He mentioned as an example (of that he is/was that great??) the positive test of Hondo 2005 as Hondo was immediately suspended and that it was very (very) unusual in cycling that someone would do that just after a positive test.
Also Holczer said that he was "powerless".
He mentioned then Leipheimer. Leipheimer had suspicious values 2006 during the Tour de France.
A doctor told Holczer that Leipheimer had to "disappear". Leipheimer then would have sued Holczer and as Holczer hadn't got any proof that Leipheimer doped, Holczer haven't took out Leipheimer of the Tour 2006.
Holczer then wouldn't believe anymore in Leipheimer.
Holczer also said that he had a dispute with Schumacher:
He took Schumacher into the team because "he had a great potential".
Schumacher fitted nicely into the team but Schumacher was very demanding/challenging like how he was to be supported in each race.
The big twist came with 2007. At the time the french teams with the movement for clean cycling came up and Holczer wanted that every single rider of Gerolsteiner signed the paper. Schumacher refused to do it.
Also Holczer wanted to fire Schumacher 2007 because of the stuff that happened at the World Championships at Stuttgart and Schumi was "out of control".
But later he "just fined" Schumacher 40.000€.
He thinks that the team doctor is guilty for this as he heard that Kohl said that the team doctor (Mark Schmidt) bought and brought a centrifuge to the Tour 2008.
Also he said that Schmidt betrayed him with this/doping stuff/behaviour.
Holczer also said the doesn't knew about a medicine box and just had to trust their doctors as they were responsible for this.
There was a testification of Kohl from January 2012 that was read out:
Kohl saw how Peruzzi took 2008 at the Basque Tour, some syringes out, covered in aluminium foil, and put them into the fridge of the team bus.
Kohl saw that Zaugg and Russ were given those syringes.
Schumacher said it was "IGF-1"
Kohl doesn't want to come to Germany to testify but would like to do it (from Austria).
The former team doctor Schmidt doesn't want to testify.
"Funny":
Schumachers lawyers blamed the state prosecutor why they don't look at the report of former Gerolsteiner doctor Giuliano Peruzzi.
Kohl said before that Peruzzi took from a fridge doping products and gave them to Rebellin and Schumacher. Schumacher refused to answer about that incident because of "personal reasons".
And he refused to name the doctors who got for them the doping stuff and even injecting it. But one of the lawyers that "we are having enough witnesses here, maybe we will listen the names."
Via the media:
Hondo said that it's remarkable how someone doesn't know about his own company. He (Holczer) is intelligent enough and knows how cycling went.
Jaksche said if it's true, that Holczers "I don't know that my team was doping" tactic is immoral. And that it (Holczers anti-doping fight) was probably a marketing idea for his team.
The trial goes "into the second round" next tuesday.
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 18-04-2013 19:41
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Not latest news but just realized most probably won't know anything about it:
Rein Taaramäe went to a lung doctor after the Basque tour. The reason for his breathing problem was pus in his lungs (ick). Not much more info about this but he was told to use his asthma medication all year round.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-04-2013 17:03
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Poor Holczer, he had no idea. Completely innocent.
If only he had known!
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