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solano
Aquarius wrote:
In swimming you usually peak around 20, sometimes even before. Manaudou was 17 in Athens (2004), I think Ian Thorpe was also 17 in Sydney (2000), so 15 is young, but that'd be like winning the Tour de France at 22 or something.

By the way, the big-chins-big-cheekbones-big- foreheads gang has won one more gold medal. Pfft


An article from The Guardian:

https://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/...mpics-2012
 
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solano wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
In swimming you usually peak around 20, sometimes even before. Manaudou was 17 in Athens (2004), I think Ian Thorpe was also 17 in Sydney (2000), so 15 is young, but that'd be like winning the Tour de France at 22 or something.

By the way, the big-chins-big-cheekbones-big- foreheads gang has won one more gold medal. Pfft


An article from The Guardian:

https://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/...mpics-2012


Dont take it seriously. Experience US coach complainig that others are to fast. Doped..maybe. look who's talking
 
Trout80
solano wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
In swimming you usually peak around 20, sometimes even before. Manaudou was 17 in Athens (2004), I think Ian Thorpe was also 17 in Sydney (2000), so 15 is young, but that'd be like winning the Tour de France at 22 or something.

By the way, the big-chins-big-cheekbones-big- foreheads gang has won one more gold medal. Pfft


An article from The Guardian:

https://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/...mpics-2012


Interesting article. It is quite suspicious to be faster on last 50m than male swimmers
 
Avin Wargunnson
It is China, there is state organised torture of the athletes and doping, so nothing surprising. China should be banned as the whole from the Olympics, same with North Korea (called democratic.yeah) as all the other states that dont recognize the human rights. But money talks louder...
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Yay first gold medal for Germany in... horse riding Smile
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Aquarius
Guido Mukk wrote:
Dont take it seriously. Experience US coach complainig that others are to fast. Doped..maybe. look who's talking

That. It made me smile as well.
That Chinese chick is certainly doped to the eye-balls, but tell me most dominant nations swimmers are clean ? I'm not buying it, especially if we're talking about swimming.
 
Trout80
Still hoping for first medal for Finland. Maybe in sailing or javelin.
 
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Spilak23
Just saw that Belgian swimmer Pieter Timmers beated Yannick Agnel in the heats of the 100 metres free! Grin
 
Aquarius
I don't mean to discuss politics (at least not too much) in this thread, but F. Hollande (French president) teased D. Cameron yesterday, saying that (even though now France has more medals than UK) in the end, we'll all look at the European total, and at that moment the Brits will be glad they're Europeans (as in part of the EU).
Even though I'll be long dead before such a team competes in international events, I must say I quite like the idea. Though, an Euro-zone team is less unlikely.

I know it's not that simple, but in Beijing, we'd have owned the medals rankings if we had competed as EU, and I guess it would have been case too for former O.G.
 
Alastairhufc
A European team would be a dreadful idea because the Olympics would got from 204 teams to about 100 Frown
 
Spilak23
Alastairhufc wrote:
A European team would be a dreadful idea because the Olympics would got from 204 teams to about 100 Frown


More like 204 to 150
 
Avin Wargunnson
I would be dreadful idea rather because of strong countries (financial and influence wise) would have bigger voice on who should compete and i think athletes would not feel the same like when they represent their country. Europe is just artificial society, it has not historical connections.
On the other hand joined forces of Czechs and Slovaks would be nice, i could finally support one team instead of two. Smile
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Aquarius
I think it'd be EU team rather than geographical Europe anyway.
For most individual sports, selections are based either on results at a particular race (national championships), either on minimals, which are not subjective.
I agree that it'd be more complicated for team sports.

In cycling, Europeans (from EU) have two flags on their back numbers, one for their country, one for EU.
Klöden even has EU twice. Pfft

It'd mean much less athletes though, so a statistical reduction of our chances, which is the backside of a stronger field.
 
kumazan
Meh, ideally the Olympics should be with athletes representing themselves, and not their countries.
 
Aquarius
kumazan wrote:
Meh, ideally the Olympics should be with athletes representing themselves, and not their countries.
For all pro sports I agree.
For lesser sports it's less evident, since athletes use state facilities, state subventions, etc. to train and get to Olympic level.
But, sincerely, I agree, even though results are summed by nations, I guess most athletes perform for egoistic reasons, not for the pride of their country.
 
Alastairhufc
Spilak23 wrote:
Alastairhufc wrote:
A European team would be a dreadful idea because the Olympics would got from 204 teams to about 100 Frown


More like 204 to 150


Actually more like 204 to 5/6

If Europe go the everyone will
 
ruben
The judo tournaments are going bad for the Dutch team Sad already 2 big medal candidates didn't achieve a medal..

 
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