FreitasPCM wrote:
Really having a nice time in Italy. I hope I'm not wrong, but you might already have it in the bag.
Completely agree
Damn you guys!!!!! It's all because you said this .
So From being hunted, we'll become the hunters. But Antón will be 1 tough nut to crack, as he's the 2nd best climber besides Gesink. We have to minimize the time loss, and crush in the MTT and ITT...
FreitasPCM wrote:
Really having a nice time in Italy. I hope I'm not wrong, but you might already have it in the bag.
Completely agree
Damn you guys!!!!! It's all because you said this .
So From being hunted, we'll become the hunters. But Antón will be 1 tough nut to crack, as he's the 2nd best climber besides Gesink. We have to minimize the time loss, and crush in the MTT and ITT...
Your team is too good.If Andy,De Gendt and Bos will leave the team,you should replace them with average riders like Porte,Van Garderen or Dupont.Gesink stats are overrated.Especially MO stats.84 is too much.Nibali as well.82 is enough for them.
Edited by ventoux on 29-06-2012 12:38
ventoux wrote:
Your team is too good.If Andy,De Gendt and Bos will leave the team,you should replace them with average riders like Porte,Van Garderen or Dupont.Gesink stats are overrated.Especially MO stats.84 is too much.Nibali as well.82 is enough for them.
I know my team is too good. That's why I don't offer Schleck a new contract, and don't want to spend too much loan to Bos and De Gendt. Schleck gets replaced by Kelderman for the stage races, and I wantto bring some young riders in it.
And about Gesinks stats... Development, can't help it.
The 2nd mountain stage brings the rider from Schio to Asiogo, over the Monte Grappa. The final climb is way easier.
First the good news: Gesink has no fractures and will start the 12th stage. Then the bad news: he has multiple contusions (wrist and back) and has to minimize is loss today.
75km to go
Already in the ascend of the Monte Grappa (18.9km at 7.9%), Kanstantsin Siutsou has attacked out of the peloton, shortly after a 16-rider breakaway has been caught. The SKy-rider gets countered by 2, namely Francesco Masciarelli (Astana) and Giovanni Visconti (BMC).
63km to go
Shortly before the summit, Visconti has to let the other 2 go and won't catch them again. Thiago Machado, who has attacked out of the peloton too late, follows at 6'35 and the peloton at 7'52.
30km to go
Masciarelli and Siutsou cooperate very wel and manage to keep a nice margin to the peloton before the foot of the final climb, the Tortina (10.4km at 5.7%). Visconti follows at 1'43, Machyado at 6'32 and the peloton at 9'26.
27km to go
When the peloton starts the final climb, José Rujano (GC's 5th) is the first to attack, countered by Janez Brajkovic (8th) and Mikel Nieve (9th). Also GC-leader Igor Antón attacks and we can't follow this one...
23km to go
The pace in the peloton increases, mostly thanks to Wilco Kelderman, and all attackers get caught. With 23km to go, 8'28 behind the 2 leaders, Scarponi launches another series of attacks.
18km to go
This is the sign for Antón to launch another fierce attack, and again, nobody can follow him. He arives at the summit 6'43 behind Masciarelli and Siutsou, and has a gap of 40 seconds to the chasing peloton.
15km to go
This is too much for Robert Gesink and he gets dropped, joined by Thomas De Gendt. THe number 2 of the GC has a bad day (daily form -5) and together with riders as Pierre Rolland and Rein Taaramäe, they have to let a group of 18 go.
Finish
Masciarelli was the stongest in the climb, and also the stongest in the sprint for the win. He takes his 2nd win in 2013, besides a stage win in the Tirreno! Siutsou gets second.
Giovanni Visconti beats Igor Antón for the 3rd place at 3'03. The maglia rosa wins another 27 seconds, as the group with Kelderman, Nieve, Basso, Evans, Rujano, Danielson, Le Mével, Scarponi etcetra finishes at 3'30. De Gendt & Gesink loose another 1'50, as they arrive in the company of Hesjedal and Taaramaë at 5'20,
Results
1
Francesco Masciarelli
Pro Team Astana
3h55'50
2
Kanstantsin Siutsou
Sky ProCycling
s.t.
3
Giovanni Visconti
BMC Racing Team
+ 3'03
4
Igor Antón
Euskaltel - Euskadi
s.t.
5
Tom Danielson
Garmin - Barracuda
+ 3'30
6
Cadel Evans
Katusha Team
s.t.
7
Christophe Le Mével
Garmin - Barracuda
s.t.
8
Michele Scarponi
Nespresso - Algarve
s.t.
9
Eros Capecchi
Liquigas - Cannondale
s.t.
10
Damiano Caruso
Liquigas - Cannondale
s.t.
...
21
Wilco Kelderman
Monster Energy - Subway
s.t.
...
33
Robert Gesink
Monster Energy - Subway
+5'20
34
Thomas De Gendt
Monster Energy - Subway
s.t.
GC
De Gednt is loosing ground, so it looks like it's going to be a battle between Antón and Kelderman. Gesink has dropped to 11th.
1
Igor Antón
Euskaltel - Euskadi
49h16'18
2
Wilco Kelderman
Monster Energy - Subway
+ 1'31
3
Thomas De Gendt
Monster Energy - Subway
+ 3'01
4
José Rujano
Androni Giocattoli
+ 4'39
5
Cadel Evans
Katusha Team
+ 5'15
6
Tom Danielson
Garmin - Barracuda
+ 5'36
7
Janez Brajkovič
Radio Shack - Nissan
+ 5'53
8
Mikel Nieve
Pro Team Astana
+ 5'58
9
Michele Scarponi
Nespresso - Algarve
+ 6'05
10
Christophe Le Mével
Garmin - Barracuda
+ 6'22
11
Robert Gesink
Monster Energy - Subway
+ 6'25
Points
1
Marcel Kittel
Monster Energy - Subway
98
2
Igor Antón
Euskaltel - Euskadi
89
3
Tyler Farrar
Omega Pharma - Quick·Step
77
4
Robert Gesink
Monster Energy - Subway
72
5
Matthew Goss
Lotto - Belisol
59
KOTM
1
Pierre Rolland
Omega Pharma - Quick·Step
22
2
Robert Gesink
Monster Energy - Subway
20
3
Simon Clarke
Qantas Airways
19
4
Stef Clement
Rabobank Cycling Team
18
5
Thomas De Gendt
Monster Energy - Subway
13
U25
1
Wilco Kelderman
Monster Energy - Subway
49h17'49
2
Diego Ulissi
Liquigas - Cannondale
+ 6'25
3
Carlos Betancourt
Acqua & Sapone
+ 25'10
4
Mikel Landa
Euskaltel - Euskadi
+ 29'47
5
Jack Bobridge
Monster Energy - Subway
+ 44'28
Teams
1
Monster Energy - Subway
146h00'28
2
Pro Team Astana
+ 6'33
3
Garmin - Barracuda
+ 12'15
4
Euskaltel - Euskadi
+ 16'11
5
Katusha Team
+ 16'35
Today's winner
Word from the DS
How great the first week was of the Giro for us, how bad things are going right now. Antón has it all under control. We really fear tomorrow's stage with the Passo Croce Domini and finish at the Plan di Montecampione....
You should start thinking about letting Gesink go as leader in Italy. Maybe even get him out of the race? Wouldn't it be better to let him recover and then send him to TDF of Vuelta?
Ian Butler wrote:
You should start thinking about letting Gesink go as leader in Italy. Maybe even get him out of the race? Wouldn't it be better to let him recover and then send him to TDF of Vuelta?
He'll race the TDF, together with Andy Schleck. It depends hw the next stage goes, if he'll stay or not...
The 13th stage from Trento to the summit of the Plan di Montecampione is a very difficult 172km mountain stage. It features 2 giant climbs, the Passo di Croce Domini (26.0km at 6.0%, 62km before finish) and the Plan die Montecampione (20.5km at 7.9%). The riders will face 4339 height metres and finishes at an altitude of 1951m.
61km to go
The riders have started the ascend of the Passo di Croce Domini and the BOTD has been smashed into many groups in the ascend. The 3 best climbers in this group arrive at the summit, with Thiago Machado (Radio Shack), leading Daniel Teklehaimanot (FDJ) and Jan Bakelandts (Lotto). A group with Kanstantsin Siutsou (Sky), Giampaolo Caruso (Katusha), Simon Spilak (Lampre) and Giovanni Visconti (BMC), that has attacked out of the peloton earlier in the ascend, follows at 2'36, with the peloton following at 6'31.
A 2nd peloton is riding at 11 minutes. Marcel Kittel is leading this group, in front of..... Joaquím Rodríguez! Purito is having a bad day again in this Giro.
17km to go
The 3 leaders have started the ascend of today's final climb, the Plan di Montecampione. Already after 3 kilometres, the group has become solo riders, with Thiago Machado being the stringest climber. The group Caruso-Siutsou-Spilak-Visconti follows at 1'22 and the peloton at 3'48.
16km to go
After only 4 kilometres of climbing, Igor Antón is testing his opponents. And what was expected, is that nobody can or wants to follow him. With this acceleration, he has decreased the gap to Machado to 2'56 and decreases his pace a bit, to see what damage he caused with his attack.
13km to go
And the stuation does not look good for the 2 best ranked Monster Energy - Subway riders. Whereas Robert Gesink can position himself in the first group, including Antón, Evans, Rujano, Basso, Nieve, Scarponi etcetra (2'07 behind Machado), both Wilco Kelderman (daily form -5) and Thomas De Gendt (daily form -3) have been dropped and ride '42 behind the first group.
11km to go
11 kilometres before the summit, Thiago Machado is leading with 1'34 to the chasing group of 4 that is about to get caught by the group of favourites. At this moment, Michele Scarponi attacks, and gets countered by Ivan Basso and Janez Brajkovic. But none of them has got the legs to create a gap.
7km to go
It takes 4 more kilometres before Machado gets caught by this group of 19 riders. Robert Gesink is still in this group, although he starts to struggle. The group with Wilco Kelderman is loosing more and more time, already at 2'32, while the group De Gendt follows at 3'09.
3km to go Gesink is slowly getting better and better, and can stay in the group of favourites untill 3km to go. At this point, he has to let them go, together with Basso and Plaza. With 2 flat stages and a rest day to come, he will stay in the Giro for sure!
1500m to go
The question was not if but when Antón attacks. He does it with only 1500m to go and again nobody can follow him.
Finish
So Igor Antón claims his 3rd stage win in this Giro. The only 2 who are able to finish within 40 seconds are José Rujano and Christophe Le Mével. A group with Nieve, Brajkovic, Evans, Scarponi, Sánchez and Danielson finishes at '59. Gesink finishes in 14th at 2'15, Kelderman in 25th at 4'21 and De Gendt in 30th at 5'30.
21 riders finish outside the time limit, so riders as Mark Renshaw, Borut Bozic and William Bonnet have to leave the Giro.
Results
1
Igor Antón
Euskaltel - Euskadi
5h18'57
2
José Rujano
Androni Giocattoli
+ 39
3
Christophe Le Mével
Garmin - Barracuda
s.t.
4
Mikel Nieve
Pro Team Astana
+ 59
5
Janez Brajkovič
Radio Shack - Nissan
s.t.
6
Cadel Evans
Katusha Team
s.t.
7
Michele Scarponi
Nespresso - Algarve
s.t.
8
Samuel Sánchez
Lampre - Generali
s.t.
9
Tom Danielson
Garmin - Barracuda
s.t.
10
Giampaolo Caruso
Katusha Team
+ 1'34
Spoiler
11
Tiago Machado
Radio Shack - Nissan
+ 1'46
12
Rubén Plaza
Movistar Team
s.t.
13
Ivan Basso
Sky ProCycling
s.t.
14
Robert Gesink
Monster Energy - Subway
+ 2'15
15
Richie Porte
Saxo Bank SunGard
+ 2'25
16
Ryder Hesjedal
Garmin - Barracuda
+ 2'52
17
Simon Spilak
Lampre - Generali
s.t.
18
Mikel Astarloza
Euskaltel - Euskadi
s.t.
19
Eros Capecchi
Liquigas - Cannondale
+ 3'22
20
Yury Trofimov
Pro Team Astana
+ 3'45
21
Damiano Caruso
Liquigas - Cannondale
s.t.
22
Pierre Rolland
Omega Pharma - Quick·Step
s.t.
23
Diego Ulissi
Liquigas - Cannondale
s.t.
24
Giovanni Visconti
BMC Racing Team
+ 4'03
25
Wilco Kelderman
Monster Energy - Subway
+ 4'21
26
Iván Velasco
Euskaltel - Euskadi
+ 5'11
27
Francesco Masciarelli
Pro Team Astana
s.t.
28
Kanstantsin Siutsou
Sky ProCycling
+ 5'30
29
Carlos Betancourt
Acqua & Sapone
s.t.
30
Thomas De Gendt
Monster Energy - Subway
s.t.
31
Emanuele Sella
Lampre - Generali
+ 5'55
32
David Arroyo
Movistar Team
s.t.
33
Christian Vande Velde
Radio Shack - Nissan
+ 6'06
34
Mauricio Alberto Ardila
Nespresso - Algarve
s.t.
35
Alessandro Bisolti
Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli
s.t.
36
Mikel Landa
Euskaltel - Euskadi
s.t.
37
Rein Taaramäe
Sony Ericsson
s.t.
38
Yevgeniy Nepomnyachshiy
Pro Team Astana
+ 8'04
39
Egoi Martínez
Euskaltel - Euskadi
s.t.
40
Trent Lowe
Sony Ericsson
+ 11'00
41
Chris Anker Sørensen
BMC Racing Team
+ 11'21
42
Massimo Codol
Acqua & Sapone
+ 12'01
43
Gorka Izagirre
Movistar Team
s.t.
44
Peter Kennaugh
Sky ProCycling
s.t.
45
Thomas Rohregger
Sony Ericsson
s.t.
46
Omar Fraile
Euskaltel - Euskadi
s.t.
47
Jérémy Roy
FDJ
s.t.
48
Daniele Pietropolli
Omega Pharma - Quick·Step
s.t.
49
Daniel Teklehaimanot
FDJ
+ 13'18
50
Enrico Zen
Androni Giocattoli
+ 13'46
51
José Ángel Gómez Marchante
Euskaltel - Euskadi
s.t.
52
Laurens Ten Dam
Rabobank Cycling Team
+ 14'20
53
Andriy Grivko
Pro Team Astana
s.t.
54
André Steensen
Saxo Bank SunGard
s.t.
55
Riccardo Chiarini
Androni Giocattoli
s.t.
56
Cristiano Salerno
Androni Giocattoli
s.t.
57
Jan Bakelants
Lotto - Belisol
s.t.
58
Stef Clement
Rabobank Cycling Team
s.t.
59
Marc De Maar
Monster Energy - Subway
+ 14'59
60
Simon Clarke
Qantas Airways
+ 15'17
61
Rubén Pérez
Movistar Team
+ 15'46
62
Christian Knees
Sky ProCycling
s.t.
63
Jens Voigt
Radio Shack - Nissan
s.t.
64
Morris Possoni
Sky ProCycling
s.t.
65
Matthew Lloyd
Pro Team Astana
+ 16'41
66
Sébastien Joly
Garmin - Barracuda
s.t.
67
Nuno Ribeiro
Pro Team Astana
+ 17'26
68
Enrique Salgueiro
Movistar Team
s.t.
69
Luca Solari
Lampre - Generali
+ 18'46
70
Emanuele Vona
Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli
+ 18'54
71
Grega Bole
Lampre - Generali
s.t.
72
Matthieu Ladagnous
FDJ
s.t.
73
Francesco Ginanni
Androni Giocattoli
+ 20'21
74
Gavin Mannion
Sony Ericsson
s.t.
75
Mads Christensen
Saxo Bank SunGard
s.t.
76
Lars Petter Nordhaug
Sky ProCycling
s.t.
77
Fabian Wegmann
FDJ
s.t.
78
Matteo Montaguti
Androni Giocattoli
s.t.
79
Mirco Lorenzetto
Androni Giocattoli
s.t.
80
Brent Bookwalter
BMC Racing Team
s.t.
81
Antonio D'Aniello
Androni Giocattoli
+ 20'41
82
Alessandro Petacchi
BMC Racing Team
s.t.
83
Koldo Fernández
Euskaltel - Euskadi
s.t.
84
Pietro Caucchioli
Lampre - Generali
s.t.
85
Simone Ponzi
Liquigas - Cannondale
s.t.
86
Marco Corti
Nespresso - Algarve
+ 22'09
87
Markel Irizar
Radio Shack - Nissan
+ 22'33
88
Ian Bibby
Qantas Airways
+ 22'58
89
Matthew Goss
Lotto - Belisol
s.t.
90
Martin Reimer
Sony Ericsson
+ 23'17
91
Leonardo Moser
Androni Giocattoli
+ 23'45
92
Jonas Aaen Jørgensen
Saxo Bank SunGard
+ 24'14
93
Fabio Taborre
Acqua & Sapone
s.t.
94
Chad Beyer
BMC Racing Team
+ 25'09
95
Timothy Duggan
Sony Ericsson
+ 26'31
96
Anthony Ravard
Omega Pharma - Quick·Step
+ 26'55
97
Ben Jacques-Maynes
Garmin - Barracuda
+ 27'02
98
Anthony Roux
FDJ
s.t.
99
Paolo Bailetti
Nespresso - Algarve
+ 27'14
100
Juan Manuel Gárate
Euskaltel - Euskadi
+ 29'59
101
Romain Zingle
Monster Energy - Subway
s.t.
102
Jack Bobridge
Monster Energy - Subway
s.t.
103
Christian Murro
Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli
+ 31'59
104
Theo Bos
Monster Energy - Subway
+ 34'04
105
Luke Rowe
Qantas Airways
+ 39'44
106
Joaquím Rodríguez
Katusha Team
s.t.
107
Dalivier Ospina
Radio Shack - Nissan
s.t.
108
Gustav Erik Larsson
Saxo Bank SunGard
s.t.
109
Christophe Riblon
Garmin - Barracuda
s.t.
110
Arkaitz Durán
Nespresso - Algarve
s.t.
111
Ivan Rovny
Radio Shack - Nissan
s.t.
112
Andrey Amador
Movistar Team
s.t.
113
Danny Pate
Sony Ericsson
s.t.
114
Maciej Paterski
Liquigas - Cannondale
s.t.
115
Xavier Florencio
Nespresso - Algarve
s.t.
116
Grischa Niermann
Rabobank Cycling Team
s.t.
117
Leonardo Duque
Radio Shack - Nissan
s.t.
118
Jonathan Tiernan-Locke
Sky ProCycling
s.t.
119
Bjorn Selander
Radio Shack - Nissan
s.t.
120
Daniele Bennati
Liquigas - Cannondale
s.t.
121
Tyler Farrar
Omega Pharma - Quick·Step
s.t.
122
Dominique Cornu
Lotto - Belisol
s.t.
123
Anthony Geslin
FDJ
s.t.
124
Nikolas Maes
Lotto - Belisol
s.t.
125
Martin Kragh
Saxo Bank SunGard
s.t.
126
Gianluca Mirenda
Lampre - Generali
s.t.
127
Ben Swift
Sky ProCycling
s.t.
128
Zdenek Stybar
Omega Pharma - Quick·Step
s.t.
129
Vicente Reynès
Lotto - Belisol
s.t.
130
Lucas Sebastián Haedo
Saxo Bank SunGard
s.t.
131
René Jørgensen
Saxo Bank SunGard
s.t.
132
Matteo Pelucchi
Nespresso - Algarve
s.t.
133
Óscar Freire
Movistar Team
s.t.
134
Maarten Wynants
Rabobank Cycling Team
s.t.
135
Fabio Sabatini
Acqua & Sapone
s.t.
136
Enrique Sanz
Movistar Team
s.t.
137
Mikhail Ignatiev
Katusha Team
s.t.
138
Francisco José Ventoso
Movistar Team
s.t.
139
Wesley Sulzberger
Qantas Airways
s.t.
140
Dennis Van Winden
Rabobank Cycling Team
s.t.
141
Baden Cooke
Qantas Airways
s.t.
142
Alexei Markov
Katusha Team
s.t.
143
Daniel Kreutzfeldt
Saxo Bank SunGard
s.t.
144
Claudio Corioni
Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli
s.t.
145
Juraj Sagan
Liquigas - Cannondale
s.t.
146
Denis Galimzyanov
Katusha Team
s.t.
147
Andrea Guardini
Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli
s.t.
148
Danilo Napolitano
Acqua & Sapone
s.t.
149
Phil Zajicek
Sony Ericsson
s.t.
150
Luca Celli
Acqua & Sapone
s.t.
151
Igor Abakoumov
Lotto - Belisol
s.t.
152
Marcel Kittel
Monster Energy - Subway
s.t.
153
Bert De Waele
Omega Pharma - Quick·Step
s.t.
154
Adriano Malori
Lampre - Generali
s.t.
155
Davide Appollonio
Sky ProCycling
s.t.
156
John Murphy
BMC Racing Team
s.t.
157
William Clarke
Sony Ericsson
s.t.
158
Takashi Miyazawa
Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli
s.t.
GC
Antón has a safe looking gap of 5'26 to the new number 2 José Rujano. Kelderman is still in 3rd, while De Gendt has dropped to 11th.
1
Igor Antón
Euskaltel - Euskadi
54h34'55
2
José Rujano
Androni Giocattoli
+ 5'26
3
Wilco Kelderman
Monster Energy - Subway
+ 6'12
4
Cadel Evans
Katusha Team
+ 6'34
5
Tom Danielson
Garmin - Barracuda
+ 6'55
6
Janez Brajkovič
Radio Shack - Nissan
+ 7'12
7
Christophe Le Mével
Garmin - Barracuda
+ 7'13
8
Mikel Nieve
Pro Team Astana
+ 7'17
9
Michele Scarponi
Nespresso - Algarve
+ 7'24
10
Ivan Basso
Sky ProCycling
+ 8'39
11
Thomas De Gendt
Monster Energy - Subway
+ 8'51
12
Robert Gesink
Monster Energy - Subway
+ 9'00
Points
1
Igor Antón
Euskaltel - Euskadi
114
2
Marcel Kittel
Monster Energy - Subway
98
3
Tyler Farrar
Omega Pharma - Quick·Step
77
4
Robert Gesink
Monster Energy - Subway
74
5
Matthew Goss
Lotto - Belisol
59
KOTM
1
Igor Antón
Euskaltel - Euskadi
27
2
Pierre Rolland
Omega Pharma - Quick·Step
22
3
Robert Gesink
Monster Energy - Subway
20
4
Simon Clarke
Qantas Airways
19
5
Stef Clement
Rabobank Cycling Team
18
U25
1
Wilco Kelderman
Monster Energy - Subway
54h41'07
2
Diego Ulissi
Liquigas - Cannondale
+ 5'49
3
Carlos Betancourt
Acqua & Sapone
+ 26'19
4
Mikel Landa
Euskaltel - Euskadi
+ 31'32
5
Omar Fraile
Euskaltel - Euskadi
+ 53'52
Teams
1
Monster Energy - Subway
162h09'25
2
Pro Team Astana
+ 4'22
3
Garmin - Barracuda
+ 4'39
4
Euskaltel - Euskadi
+ 12'08
5
Lampre - Generali
+ 15'21
Today's winner
Word from the DS
Again a pretty black day for the team, with Kelderman and De Gendt loosing many minutes, with both having a very weak day. But looking positive, we can say that Gesink his form starts to increase again. We really need the 2 following easy stages before the 40km mountain TT to recover.
it's a shame that Gesink had to crash in that descent. Atleast he has almost recovered and it looks like he could still take 2nd. Go for a podium with him and Kelderman.
If Gesink's form comes back to what it was before the crash you might have a very small chance to get the win, but you need to do some Hard Attacking,and expect Antón to have a very bad day at the ITT.