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admirschleck
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Evidence for that?


Just my opinion.
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Avin Wargunnson
I thought that. At least we have evidence for Messi, pumped with HGH since childhood
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admirschleck
'Cause Ronaldo definitely isn't pumping with many different forbidden stuff. Right. Still, even then, Messi is the worlds best football player. Wink

You should definitely check these 2 links below, if you want some evidence in football(ers) doping (not to even talk about NBA players and sports like that):

https://www.4dfoot...-evidence/
https://www.german...;Itemid=74
Edited by admirschleck on 20-05-2014 15:14
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Avin Wargunnson
Hey admir, i have something for you. And dont be jealous you are not so handsome!

Spoiler
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admirschleck
Cool stuff, but there's one little problem - we're talking about football and not about fashioning. I already said that Ronaldo should be a fashion model, as he'll likely get a proper career there than in football (shadow of almighty Messi!).

And I still am beautiful! Suck it Ronaldo! Pfft
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Schleck96
Both of you, stop this discussion already... The Ronaldo vs Messi battle has been discussed about by the entire world, millions of times! There's no way you'll ever reach an agreement, so it's useless.
 
Alakagom
With Real and Barca making top signings, Atletico was forgotten a bit. But man, how good they are doing so far.

Oblak, a fantastic keeper. Griezmann, amazing replacemnt of Villa on the wing. 20 goals last season says it all.

Mandzukic is amost a identical replica replacement of Diego Costa, a brilliant deal.

And two smaller transfers, but massive for future. Correa and Bakkali signed up. Two biggest upcoming talents. How can you not love this team.
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Stevenag
I do believe Atletico actually look better then last season. Haven't seen much of Oblak, but the difference between Felipe and Sequira on the left back is minimal. Griezmann and Mandzukic+potentially Lavezzi as well give the team a lot of strings to play on in attack as well with Gabi, Koke, Tiago, Suarez and Saul in the defensive positions and Koke, Arda, Griezmann, Lavezzi and Garcia in the attack.

Real Madrid is still my favorite to win the league, but I would put Atletico in second before Barcelona.
There should also be a hard fight for forth place as well, with Valencia, Sevilla, Villarreal and the two basque teams in the main roles.
We are heading toward a fantastic season where more and more clubs are getting out of the "sell everybody to avoid big red numbers" mode.
 
Avin Wargunnson
Alakagom wrote:
With Real and Barca making top signings, Atletico was forgotten a bit. But man, how good they are doing so far.

Oblak, a fantastic keeper. Griezmann, amazing replacemnt of Villa on the wing. 20 goals last season says it all.

Mandzukic is amost a identical replica replacement of Diego Costa, a brilliant deal.

And two smaller transfers, but massive for future. Correa and Bakkali signed up. Two biggest upcoming talents. How can you not love this team.

I would say how can you love it, with such a prick manager. Pfft
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:lol:

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Avin Wargunnson
Incredible level of corruption. Vomit time
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admirschleck
What a great game by Barca tonight. Messi showing class, as always, while Munir showed that Barca indeed has the best youth academy in the world. 3-0 at the moment (72nd minute), even though Mascherano was sent off at the end of first half (it would've ceratinly been a goal for Elche, so it was a pretty good move imo). Rakitic with a really nice game and an assist, as well.

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Edited by admirschleck on 24-08-2014 21:37
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Re Leone
admirschleck wrote:
What a great game by Barca tonight. Messi showing class, as always, while Munir showed that Barca indeed has the best youth academy in the world. 3-0 at the moment (72nd minute), even though Mascherano was sent off at the end of first half (it would've ceratinly been a goal for Elche, so it was a pretty good move imo). Rakitic with a really nice game and an assist, as well.

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Munir was indeed a breath of fresh air, though he already show his talent in the Next Gen series. Messi once again showed he's the best in the world.

Barca has lost all my respect though when they signed Suarez. Hopefully they go trophyless. :lol:
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Avin Wargunnson
admirschleck wrote:
What a great game by Barca tonight. Messi showing class, as always, while Munir showed that Barca indeed has the best youth academy in the world. 3-0 at the moment (72nd minute), even though Mascherano was sent off at the end of first half (it would've ceratinly been a goal for Elche, so it was a pretty good move imo). Rakitic with a really nice game and an assist, as well.

Visca el Barca, Mes que un Club! www.vwvortex.com/Anthony/Smilies/heart.gif

Strange that team with best academy in the world spends hundreds of millions of dollars (which they actually dont have and just loan it in the bank) almost every year. One would think that they dont need that...
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admirschleck
Compare the amount of money Real, PSG, City, Chelsea and many other teams spent on buying (young) players (last 3, last 5, last 10, last 15 years - doesn't matter) and compare the amount of players that played in their youth academy with Barcelona.
Edited by admirschleck on 25-08-2014 07:52
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Stevenag
Easy to get a lot of good players from the youth team, when you can just throw money at a bunch of 13 year old boys and their parents, and their current clubs have nothing to do to stop it.

Barcelona didn't get their transfer ban from their good job with local players.

And no, Barca is not the only team to do this. Still a disgusting abuse of power that UEFA/FIFA needs to solve.
 
Re Leone
The only youth academies worth mentioning are those of Ajax, Feyenoord, Sporting Lisbon and a bunch of Eastern European ones. Wink

Barcelona had a generation of great Catalonian players coming through, but their current crop is mostly foreigners they bought from other clubs.
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Re Leone wrote:
The only youth academies worth mentioning are those of Ajax, Feyenoord, Sporting Lisbon and a bunch of Eastern European ones. Wink

Barcelona had a generation of great Catalonian players coming through, but their current crop is mostly foreigners they bought from other clubs.


Don't forget Southampton (fan speaking here Pfft)
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Stevenag
I do believe both Ajax and Feyenoord is highly overrated. The last world class player they have produced has turned 30 already, and I don’t see anyone close to taking their place.
The Ajax team of the mid 90s is legendary, but so is Man Uniteds.

 
Re Leone
Stevenag wrote:
I do believe both Ajax and Feyenoord is highly overrated. The last world class player they have produced has turned 30 already, and I don’t see anyone close to taking their place.
The Ajax team of the mid 90s is legendary, but so is Man Uniteds.

Rating by the "world class players" the academy produces is illogical. Players like Messi are born, not created.

1. Ajax (69-12)
2. Partizan Belgrado (66-7)
3. Barcelona (61-16)
4. Hajduk Split (52-13)
5. Sporting CP (52-8)
6. Rode Ster Belgrado (50-5)
7. Sparta Praag (46-6)
8. Real Madrid (46-7)
9. Dinamo Zagreb (45-7)
10. Feyenoord (44-13)

Those are the amount of players playing in the top divisions in Europe (69) in Ajax's case. And the amount still at the club (12) for Ajax. These stats are from 2013.

Selwink wrote:
Don't forget Southampton (fan speaking here Pfft)

That's true. Embarassed
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