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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-01-2014 20:30
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Spanish league table the season before a certain team started working with Fuentes, followed by the next season
Spot the trend?
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 22-01-2014 20:33
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:20
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Accusing riders because of their nationality is bullshit, actually it is even discrimination. If Spanish is a dodgy nationality, then which one do you consider a clean nationality? French? British? Dutch? Russian?
If you consider a certain rider suspicious because he rides for a dodgy team you must agree with Di Luca that 90% of riders dope because every WT-team is a dodgy team, except for maybe Giant-Shimano.
Quick edit: I do agree that there's still a doping problem in cycling's elite, I'm not an ostriche. But just blaming riders for the piece of land they were born in or for chosing to ride for a team that offered them a good opportunity/paycheck.
Edited by fosforgasXIII on 22-01-2014 22:25
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:28
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Congrats to Andy Schleck for winning his second GT:
Giro d'Italia 2007
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:28
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fosforgasXIII wrote:
Accusing riders because of their nationality is bullshit, actually it is even discrimination. If Spanish is a dodgy nationality, then which one do you consider a clean nationality? French? British? Dutch? Russian?
If you consider a certain rider suspicious because he rides for a dodgy team you must agree with Di Luca that 90% of riders dope because every WT-team is a dodgy team, except for maybe Giant-Shimano.
Why leave out Giant - Shimano? Pretty sure back when they were Skil - Shimano they had more than one positive test. They've had dopers rider for them in the past etc.
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:39
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valverde321 wrote:
fosforgasXIII wrote:
Accusing riders because of their nationality is bullshit, actually it is even discrimination. If Spanish is a dodgy nationality, then which one do you consider a clean nationality? French? British? Dutch? Russian?
If you consider a certain rider suspicious because he rides for a dodgy team you must agree with Di Luca that 90% of riders dope because every WT-team is a dodgy team, except for maybe Giant-Shimano.
Why leave out Giant - Shimano? Pretty sure back when they were Skil - Shimano they had more than one positive test. They've had dopers rider for them in the past etc.
It's just the least dodgy one. |
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:41
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Also has this one been post here allready?
Laugh! Laugh as loud as you can! 
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Posted on 25-11-2024 10:23
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:43
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lol I wish it was real.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:51
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baseballlover312 wrote:
lol I wish it was real.
It's from Michelle Cound's twitter, so I guess it's real. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:53
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fosforgasXIII wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
lol I wish it was real.
It's from Michelle Cound's twitter, so I guess it's real.
She's the only person in the world I want to see on fire more than Froome.
Like really on fire. Burn the witch!
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| Shonak |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:56
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Sky's sooo stupid sometimes.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| 547984 |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:59
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MartijnVDD wrote:
Congrats to Andy Schleck for winning his second GT:
Giro d'Italia 2007
Nice
baseballlover312, 06-03-14 : "Nuke Moscow...Don't worry Russia, we've got plenty of love to go around your cities"
Sarah Palin, 08-03-14 (CPAC, on Russian aggression) : "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke"
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 22-01-2014 23:45
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fosforgasXIII wrote:
Also has this one been post here allready?
Laugh! Laugh as loud as you can!
God, that looks really sore  |
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 22-01-2014 23:48
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sutty68 wrote:
fosforgasXIII wrote:
Also has this one been post here allready?
Laugh! Laugh as loud as you can!
God, that looks really sore
How the hell did that happen?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 22-01-2014 23:53
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Luis Leon Sanchez wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
fosforgasXIII wrote:
Also has this one been post here allready?
Laugh! Laugh as loud as you can!
God, that looks really sore
How the hell did that happen?
Marginal Gains
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 22-01-2014 23:54
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Think the clothing material is way too light |
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| 547984 |
Posted on 23-01-2014 00:33
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sutty68 wrote:
Think the clothing material is way too light
You don't say
baseballlover312, 06-03-14 : "Nuke Moscow...Don't worry Russia, we've got plenty of love to go around your cities"
Sarah Palin, 08-03-14 (CPAC, on Russian aggression) : "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke"
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 23-01-2014 00:35
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547984 wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Think the clothing material is way too light
You don't say
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 23-01-2014 06:58
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aidanvn13 wrote:
And on the subject of Di Luca saying a top 10 in the Giro is impossible without doping. Seriously? I find that extremely derogatory to the sport and especially to those pros who bust their asses training like madmen - doing it all 100% clean. To believe that all the riders in the top 10 of the Giro did so by doping shows that you have no respect for the sport and it's athletes; not to mention that it's a very pessimistic outlook. Thinking that it's impossible is just not logical, perhaps I would agree if you mentioned that such a feat was impossible in 2004, I'd believe you. But times have changed in recent years.
To assume that doping has been completely eradicated is foolish, but so is the notion that it completely over-rules the sport.
I wonder howw you can be so sure about the bold part mate.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 23-01-2014 06:59
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FroomeDog99 wrote:
I'd give Uran the benefit of the doubt as well, though hat could be a bit naive of me. It could just be the Froomes, Kennaughs and Portes doping at Sky, something even Aquarius has said is possible. 
I'm not an authority or anything.
About Sky, the fact that it's mostly the core of their GT team that has had tremendous improvements in their performances, while the rest have been on a more normal progression, or on a more steady level compared to what they did before joining Sky, tends to show what you wrote, yes.
fosforgasXIII wrote:
Accusing riders because of their nationality is bullshit, actually it is even discrimination. If Spanish is a dodgy nationality, then which one do you consider a clean nationality? French? British? Dutch? Russian?
If you consider a certain rider suspicious because he rides for a dodgy team you must agree with Di Luca that 90% of riders dope because every WT-team is a dodgy team, except for maybe Giant-Shimano.
Quick edit: I do agree that there's still a doping problem in cycling's elite, I'm not an ostriche. But just blaming riders for the piece of land they were born in or for chosing to ride for a team that offered them a good opportunity/paycheck.
When I think of a nation for its probity and integrity doping wise, Spain is not really the first name springing to my mind. Well, it is, but for the very opposite reasons.
Getting to be the leader of a team like Movistar is probably the result of being the one clean rider among the bunch of doped riders that is the rest of the team. Uh... well... actually not.
Some teams in the MPCC are a joke, but those who aren't even in are even worst.
I was, of course, drawing a bit of a caricature, but I don't think it's far from the truth. So, Di Lucu, IMO, might well be right about Giro top 10's and doping.
90 % of the peloton on dope seems excessive though, I'd rather go for a figure slightly under 50 if I was asked to give a random number.
Edited by Aquarius on 23-01-2014 07:05
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