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PCM.daily DB Stats discussion
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| TomBoonen007 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:05
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romaniangoat wrote:
Froome 83
Quintana 82
Rodriguez 81(high rec)
Valverde 80
Porte 80
Contador 80/79
Continuation in my opinion
Kreuziger 79
Mollema 78(low rec)
Fuglsang 78
Talansky 78
Nieve 78(also low very low acc and high ftr)
Kwiatkowski 76 or maybe 77
Ten Dam 77
Nibali is ok at 81.He isn't on Quintana level.Also for me Purito is better than him.The level of competition in Giro was very low.
Yes Giro was very low. The Giro was a survivor. It does not show the real statistics.
Kreuziger for me high FTR he worked for Contador a lot. |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:06
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Alakagom wrote:
juju33 wrote:
when will the next uptodate pcmdaily available as the TDF is finished now?
and if it is possible someone could give me the stats of top 10 climbers.
Few days after the Tour I expect to release a cdb. here.
anything for PCM 12 going to be released or should i start updating myself? |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:06
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Btw, again matter of personal opinion but how are you rating Van Der Broeck? 78 or 79? Tough too call, I so far went with 78 but you then gotta argue he did get some consistent results at Tour in past years wchich make me reconsider him to possibly 79.
Edited by Alakagom on 20-07-2013 17:07
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:08
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gotlandrules wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
juju33 wrote:
when will the next uptodate pcmdaily available as the TDF is finished now?
and if it is possible someone could give me the stats of top 10 climbers.
Few days after the Tour I expect to release a cdb. here.
anything for PCM 12 going to be released or should i start updating myself?
That's up to Luigi and whetever he conversts the stats to PCM 12 format, but I think it should be possible.
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| fernando97 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:08
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For me he is a 78. No real results outside of the TDF, which he didn't finish this year. |
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:09
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Alakagom wrote:
Froome 83
Quintana 82
Rodriguez 81
Valverde 80
Porte 80
Contador 80/79
Likely to be stats for the top climbers after the Tour. Contador is a tough one, a difficult choice.
I think I would have Froome and Quintana on the at the same level, most stages Quintana seemed to be the better climber of the two, though inexperience or team tactics (Ax 3 Domains) caused him not to win the stage.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:09
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Alakagom wrote:
Btw, again matter of personal opinion but how are you rating Van Der Broeck? 78 or 79? Tough too call, I so far went with 78 but you then gotta argue he did get some consistent results at Tour in past years.
He finished 4th in his last 2 TDF's (where he didn't crash out) without decent TT skills. He's pretty consistent in the Tour, maybe even worth an 80. His lack of results in other stage races means 79 is probably best for him though.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:27
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Guys don't forget about Wiggins.
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| romaniangoat |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:29
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Van den Broeck 79 and Wiggins 78.
Edited by romaniangoat on 20-07-2013 17:29
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:30
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Froome
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Quintana, Purito
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Nibali, Valverde, Porte
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Contador, Kreuziger, Uran, VDB
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Betancur, Wiggins, Fuglsang, Mollema, Ten Dam, Scarponi, Nieve, Hesjedal, Evans, Majka, Moreno
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| romaniangoat |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:32
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carmelobymelo wrote:
Froome
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Quintana, Purito
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Nibali, Valverde, Porte
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Contador, Kreuziger, Uran, VDB
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Betancur, Wiggins, Fuglsang, Mollema, Ten Dam, Scarponi, Nieve, Hesjedal, Evans, Majka, Moreno
Henao is better than Ten Dam,Scarponi,Evans and Moreno.Don't forget he was sick in Giro,
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:33
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romaniangoat wrote:
carmelobymelo wrote:
Froome
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Quintana, Purito
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Nibali, Valverde, Porte
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Contador, Kreuziger, Uran, VDB
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Betancur, Wiggins, Fuglsang, Mollema, Ten Dam, Scarponi, Nieve, Hesjedal, Evans, Majka, Moreno
Henao is better than Ten Dam,Scarponi,Evans and Moreno.Don't forget he was sick in Giro,
Probably yes, but with that we have to wait for Vuelta
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| Kristoffer |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:43
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carmelobymelo wrote:
Froome
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Quintana, Purito
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Nibali, Valverde, Porte
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Contador, Kreuziger, Uran, VDB
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Betancur, Wiggins, Fuglsang, Mollema, Ten Dam, Scarponi, Nieve, Hesjedal, Evans, Majka, Moreno
Betancur is way above Ten Dam, probably above Mollema, Fuglsang, Nieve and Hesjedal as well. Def above Evans and also above Scarponi as well. A bit over Moreno, and maybe +1 on Majka, even thought ending up pretty close in the Giro.
Wiggins hasn't showed anything this year, will not show up at the Giro and is probably finished as a GT-rider if you ask me.
Rest looks fine to me, just dont give Quintana to high ACC, as I dont think hes very impressive there. |
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| juju33 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:50
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and in the next pcmdaily are there any variants or it's to us to search. |
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 20-07-2013 18:03
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Kristoffer wrote:
carmelobymelo wrote:
Froome
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Quintana, Purito
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Nibali, Valverde, Porte
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Contador, Kreuziger, Uran, VDB
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Betancur, Wiggins, Fuglsang, Mollema, Ten Dam, Scarponi, Nieve, Hesjedal, Evans, Majka, Moreno
Betancur is way above Ten Dam, probably above Mollema, Fuglsang, Nieve and Hesjedal as well. Def above Evans and also above Scarponi as well. A bit over Moreno, and maybe +1 on Majka, even thought ending up pretty close in the Giro.
Wiggins hasn't showed anything this year, will not show up at the Giro and is probably finished as a GT-rider if you ask me.
Rest looks fine to me, just dont give Quintana to high ACC, as I dont think hes very impressive there.
Did not show it at the Giro, maybe in third week but still finished after Evans.
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-07-2013 18:48
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I disagree giving Mollema low rec just because he became ill.
In the Vuelta 2011 he was still very strong at the end (Pena Cabarga).
You'd better give him low RES instead. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 18:52
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ruben wrote:
I disagree giving Mollema low rec just because he became ill.
In the Vuelta 2011 he was still very strong at the end (Pena Cabarga).
You'd better give him low RES instead.
Resistance has no effect.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 18:54
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baseballlover312 wrote:
ruben wrote:
I disagree giving Mollema low rec just because he became ill.
In the Vuelta 2011 he was still very strong at the end (Pena Cabarga).
You'd better give him low RES instead.
Resistance has no effect.
Am I missing something? I thought it had an effect in the game or else it would be useless to include as a stat....
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 18:55
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valverde321 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
ruben wrote:
I disagree giving Mollema low rec just because he became ill.
In the Vuelta 2011 he was still very strong at the end (Pena Cabarga).
You'd better give him low RES instead.
Resistance has no effect.
Am I missing something? I thought it had an effect in the game or else it would be useless to include as a stat....
According to tests it has no effect. Check out the attributes thread.
Edit: At least not in 3D.
Edited by baseballlover312 on 20-07-2013 18:58
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 18:57
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Kentaurus wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Froome 83
Quintana 82
Rodriguez 81
Valverde 80
Porte 80
Contador 80/79
Likely to be stats for the top climbers after the Tour. Contador is a tough one, a difficult choice.
I think I would have Froome and Quintana on the at the same level, most stages Quintana seemed to be the better climber of the two, though inexperience or team tactics (Ax 3 Domains) caused him not to win the stage.
I agree with that. Also, I dont think that Conta should be lower than 80, even though he clearly is on the decline |
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