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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 04-04-2013 17:30
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
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Don't forget about Gilbert either. Not looking the best now but that's what we said last year. This time he'll have the whole team build around him, I reckon.
Isn't that Fiesole climb slightly too long for Gilbert?
Hmm, 300m... Could be... 
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 04-04-2013 17:47
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double post soz
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 04-04-2013 17:51
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Could be a very interesting stage tomorrow and surely a sea of orange trying to get off the front after the last few days of disappointment for Euskaltel? Tailor made finish for Sanchez today but just not the legs to make the selection.
Looks like Quintana was fresh off the phone to Valverde to slip away at the optimum time today, nice work by him, though you'd imagine the finish was well known to all after last years Vuelta. |
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 04-04-2013 18:42
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Don't forget about Gilbert either. Not looking the best now but that's what we said last year. This time he'll have the whole team build around him, I reckon.
Isn't that Fiesole climb slightly too long for Gilbert?
He wouldn't be top favourite, but it should be possible to double his title. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 04-04-2013 19:07
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in his current form even a bridge is too long for Gilbert |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 04-04-2013 19:26
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ianrussell wrote:
double post soz
You can edit your post and click on 'Delete this post' 
And yeah, tomorrow will be an interesting stage... Probably.
Edited by Jesleyh on 04-04-2013 19:28
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 04-04-2013 20:18
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Jesleyh wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Don't forget about Gilbert either. Not looking the best now but that's what we said last year. This time he'll have the whole team build around him, I reckon.
Isn't that Fiesole climb slightly too long for Gilbert?
Hmm, 300m... Could be...
Doesnt look like 300m on that profile. More like 3 k's...
edit: apparently it's approx. 5 kilometres long. 
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 04-04-2013 20:45
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5 km long ? At pro's speed I'd say it'll take between 12 and 15 minutes to climb. Not a MAS effort then, but a threshold one.
Gilbert as most classics rider has an excellent MAS (maximal aerobic speed), whereas GC riders or (mountain) climbers are usually better when it comes to threshold business.
If the pace is sustained enough, I can't see any classic guy, or Gilbert whatever his form, win this one. Now with the cowardish riding style we get to witness on every opportunity, it can't be told whether any team will bother making the race hard.
GC guys with a good punch and able to cope with long distances ? Make your call(s)... |
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| titleist82 |
Posted on 04-04-2013 20:53
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i would say nibbles ftw, considering the final descent, too.
but we are a little off-topic! |
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 04-04-2013 20:57
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Euskaltel is dooooonnnnnnne. |
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| fickman |
Posted on 04-04-2013 21:20
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I_Mayo wrote:
Euskaltel is dooooonnnnnnne.
Thats not a big surprise since SANCHEZ is to old to challenge the new generation and started declining and ANTON is just being ANTON. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 04-04-2013 21:23
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Aquarius wrote:
5 km long ? At pro's speed I'd say it'll take between 12 and 15 minutes to climb. Not a MAS effort then, but a threshold one.
Gilbert as most classics rider has an excellent MAS (maximal aerobic speed), whereas GC riders or (mountain) climbers are usually better when it comes to threshold business.
If the pace is sustained enough, I can't see any classic guy, or Gilbert whatever his form, win this one. Now with the cowardish riding style we get to witness on every opportunity, it can't be told whether any team will bother making the race hard.
GC guys with a good punch and able to cope with long distances ? Make your call(s)...
Moreno. Valverde. Cunego.
Moreno is by far the better sprinter of those three (the other two are closely matched), but reputation counts so Valverde will get the nod as leader
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 04-04-2013 21:38
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Cunego? Well, if Gilbert won it last year without doing nothing, compared to 2011, then Cunego, can win. |
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| jph27 |
Posted on 04-04-2013 21:42
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Spain will have the usual problem of too many leaders. I fancy someone like Voeckler or Dan Martin for the worlds. Sorry for being off topic. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 04-04-2013 21:49
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Miguel98 wrote:
Cunego? Well, if Gilbert won it last year without doing nothing, compared to 2011, then Cunego, can win.
I was just listing the best sprinters between the 40 or so best climbers in the world
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| ggDonovan |
Posted on 04-04-2013 21:52
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Sorry to everybody that I started the offtopic. 
I just wanted to talk about colombians and make the joke with the worlds...
.. but we can start now a dedicated post for it (just 6 months to the date) since everybody's got an opinion 
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 04-04-2013 21:54
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isso, do you really consider Valverde a worse sprinter than Moreno and on pair with Cunego?
I'm only asking because I've always thought of Valverde as perhaps the fastest finisher of all GC contenders / puncheurs. Simply because he seems capable of competing with actual sprinters in a mass sprint (especially if the finish is slightly uphill), whereas I find for example Purito similar in terms of acceleration, but not as much of an actual sprinter.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 04-04-2013 22:01
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That is my opinion, yes.
This isn't 2006 anymore 
Of course if you ask Gutiérrez, he says the only rider faster than Valverde is Cavendish and only barely
It's not really a case of thinking Valverde is worse. More that Moreno is better.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 04-04-2013 22:04
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Moreno is a good sprinter. Valverde is probably at his level, Cunego is probably doesn't even know to sprint probably and if the finish is flat, we'll see. Tough, Sagan, might have a word to say, so does EBH. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 04-04-2013 22:05
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titleist82 wrote:
i would say nibbles ftw, considering the final descent, too.
but we are a little off-topic!
Good point on the descent!
I can see him downhilling to victory easily |
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