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Montolivo
Only hope he is not doped. Wink

It's over short time, but still that's alot of watts.
 
felix_29
Montolivo wrote:
Only hope he is not doped. Wink

It's over short time, but still that's alot of watts.


190cm/68kg. He must be on AICAR. Pfft
 
Spilak23
Froome can do 470 over 24 minutes clean so 470 over 11 is not doped. Pfft

 
Wilier
Kreiz Breizh Elites, Stage 1: Calanhel - Plouray (194 km) (2.2)
 
Aquarius
Spilak23 wrote:
Froome can do 470 over 24 minutes clean so 470 over 11 is not doped. Pfft

Froome did roughly 430 if you match him with a 70+8 kg rider, whereas Herklotz apparently did 485, which is as much as Riis on Hautacam (most impressive performance ever on a non TT stage for a final mountain - Froome would have been totally ripped apart - but the stage had been shortened).

I don't want to deny the talent of a guy I don't know, but the figure seems totally insane and much beyond what is credible (from a non heavily doped guy). I doubt it's a reliable number.
 
cio93
cio93 wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Isn't it a bit too much climbing for Herklotz(last climb is to 1300m)


I have no idea how good he actually climbs.


Quite good Cool

And could we please stop discussing random numbers? Not to sound biased, but I don't think that's feasible without sufficient publicly accessible evidence, e.g. TV coverage.
 
CountArach
I didn't think Landa wuld do that well at San Seb, and same with nieve. So happy with Nieve's season this year. Another great result from Serry as well, who is a great talent.
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Pellizotti2
Was out of town without internet yesterday.

Any chance someone could give me a quick summary of San Sebastian? Happy to see a good performance from Landa after stagnating a bit in his development recently.

And Herklotz is just amazing. I'm starting to like that guy.
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Spilak23
Quintana goes on first slopes of Jaizkibel with Valverde in his wheel. Kreuziger, Roche, Moser, Jeanneson, Landa, Gallopin are the only that can follow. Quintana paces all the way up and lets go 2 km from the top. They pick up some guys who already were in front like Eijsen and ride together to the Arkale. Chavenall, Astarloza and Nieve bridge across. Gallopin immediately attacks on the Arkala creating a 20 second lead. Kreuziger, Roche, Landa, Nieve and Valverde form a chasing group of 5 but can never close the 20 seconds


 
Pellizotti2
Thanks, Spilak

Impressive stuff from Gallopin. I thought he had won it from a breakaway when seeing the results.
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maxime86
TONY GALLOPIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry im teering up a bit
Edited by maxime86 on 28-07-2013 15:29
 
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Aquarius
Not that I give a flying fuck about nationalities, but I'm a victim of local media and their praise of French riders, or their complaints about how bad they are.
Whilst most PT teams are now part of MPCC, and all French teams are, the two only decent representatives of our glorious cycling nation in WT classics, the only two who exist at that level, are part of non MPCC teams. Just saying.

That 10th place just gave 34 years old Chavanel enough points to beat his former yearly CQ record, btw. And it's only late July. Late bloomer, eh ?
 
ruben
btw aqua, what do you think of the suddenly underperforming Europcar dudes, Rolland and Voeckler in special, after the Rolland incident?

They surely took it down a notch since the last 2 TDF. I think they are clean now but weren't during last 2 TDF... what do you think?
 
kumazan
No corticoids, no (green) party.
 
Aquarius
ruben wrote:
btw aqua, what do you think of the suddenly underperforming Europcar dudes, Rolland and Voeckler in special, after the Rolland incident?

They surely took it down a notch since the last 2 TDF. I think they are clean now but weren't during last 2 TDF... what do you think?

kumazan wrote:
No corticoids, no (green) party.

In short : I think that too.

Stories about them (and it's not only Rolland) messing with corticoids were getting worrying. Turgot was briefly susp... er, rested last year, and there was that story of other teams complaining of corticoids abuses.

They can try to bullshit people about it, but it was no surprise Rolland got somewhat caught, and that they immediately suffered from the inverted effects of corticoids (corticoids : more agressivity, faster recovery, and helps gaining or preserving muscular mass, but it makes riders more tendinitis prone).
Oh wait, when did Voeckler suffer from tendinitis already ? Pfft

Now the questions are "did it concern all the team or only their leaders (say 5 or 6 guys) ?" And "did they really quit or are they only going easy until people forget a little about them ?".
Edited by Aquarius on 28-07-2013 17:28
 
kumazan
Aquarius wrote:
Now the questions are "did it concern all the team or only their leaders (say 5 or 6 guys) ?" And "did they really quit or are they only going easy until people forget a little about them ?".


They did get a new contract with Europcar for 2 years right? Prepare to see them back in 2015 then. Pfft

But I do also think that the effect has been made bigger by the fact that the leaders (of other teams I mean) have been stronger than in the past two years.
 
cio93
Noone posted that yet? Pfft

Stage 6:


Final GC:

Edited by cio93 on 28-07-2013 21:55
 
Spilak23
How many stages of this race are won by cx'ers? Pfft
 
cio93
4/6 Pfft
 
Spilak23
cio93 wrote:
4/6 Pfft


+ 1st and 3rd in GC. Impressive but I remember Albert climbing very good in the past in this race aswell
 
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