|
News In February
|
| deek12345 |
Posted on 21-02-2013 13:31
|
Small Tour Specialist
Posts: 2652
Joined: 13-06-2009
PCM$: 460.00
|
yay cant wait giro starting in my home city
Edited by deek12345 on 21-02-2013 13:32
|
| |
|
|
| Montolivo |
Posted on 21-02-2013 15:35
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 791
Joined: 16-06-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Oh no , not this Giro d Europe sh*t again. 
Agreed. Think the Giro should showcase itself in Italy to the foreign markets. |
| |
|
|
| p3druh |
Posted on 21-02-2013 16:01
|
Small Tour Specialist
Posts: 2388
Joined: 28-09-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Wildcards for Paris-Roubaix:
Bretagne-Séché, Cofidis, IAM Cycling, Sojasun, Europcar and Team Netapp-Endura
-------------------------------------------
The UCI has determined it will make some changes to the WT points system:
- Only the Top-10 riders of each team will count for the ranking
- If a rider changes teams, he only takes 80% of his points with him, the rest stay with his previous team
- Fewer points for the American, Asian and African rankings
|
| |
|
|
| Ian Butler |
Posted on 21-02-2013 16:04
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 21379
Joined: 01-05-2012
PCM$: 400.00
|
80% of the points, that's an odd rule, but a decent one.
But what's the motivation behind the top 10 riders only count? |
| |
|
|
| juszta |
Posted on 21-02-2013 16:08
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1156
Joined: 24-07-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Ian Butler wrote:
80% of the points, that's an odd rule, but a decent one.
But what's the motivation behind the top 10 riders only count?
That way teams can keep the likes of Txurruka, who don't score a lot of points but are still very useful. (It's just one explanation, I'm not sure if they were thinking the same  ) |
| |
|
|
| Ian Butler |
Posted on 21-02-2013 16:11
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 21379
Joined: 01-05-2012
PCM$: 400.00
|
Oh yeah, sort of protecting the good helpers/domestiques. Now they don't have to worry about scoring points, the team can only have 10 riders with points anyway. See the point, I think it's a good rule, then, actually. |
| |
|
|
| p3druh |
Posted on 21-02-2013 16:12
|
Small Tour Specialist
Posts: 2388
Joined: 28-09-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
It's not a huge change. I believe the current ranking was defined by the Top-12 riders.
|
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 18-12-2025 15:08
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-02-2013 16:15
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 27880
Joined: 20-10-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
Well, it's getting better. Still think 80 % is too much, though. |
| |
|
|
| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 21-02-2013 16:27
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 17840
Joined: 12-05-2012
PCM$: 0.00
|
UCI did something good???? Dafuq is going on!
80% is still too high, agreed.
and don't see why the other tours should have a points drop either.
And cool the Giro in Ireland
Steal ALL the sports 
|
| |
|
|
| Spilak23 |
Posted on 21-02-2013 16:41
|
Team Leader
Posts: 7217
Joined: 22-08-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
TheManxMissile wrote:
UCI did something good???? Dafuq is going on!
80% is still too high, agreed.
and don't see why the other tours should have a points drop either.
And cool the Giro in Ireland
Steal ALL the sports
Too prevent guys like Sohrabi getting contracts in WT teams.
To prevent WT teams from getting their status by signing useless Asian guys who are of no use for WT teams except for their way too many points.
Edited by Spilak23 on 21-02-2013 16:42
|
| |
|
|
| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 21-02-2013 16:48
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 17840
Joined: 12-05-2012
PCM$: 0.00
|
Spilak23 wrote:
Too prevent guys like Sohrabi getting contracts in WT teams.
To prevent WT teams from getting their status by signing useless Asian guys who are of no use for WT teams except for their way too many points.
But with the other rule changes that wasn't going to happen anymore...
It is really unfair to those tours, especially the America Tour, which is very competitive and produces a lot of top quality riders. Now they won't get as fair a chance at a WT spot.
And with this change a team like MTN would not likely get reasonable chance at a Pro Conti license, same for teams like Champion System
I just dont think its fair is all.
|
| |
|
|
| Lachi |
Posted on 21-02-2013 17:09
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8360
Joined: 29-06-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
@TMM: You are right, it is not fair.
I guess it is a deal with ASO and other European race organizers to make sure that the important riders are riding European races. |
| |
|
|
| kumazan |
Posted on 21-02-2013 17:13
|
Team Leader
Posts: 6195
Joined: 02-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
TheManxMissile wrote:
But with the other rule changes that wasn't going to happen anymore...
Why not?
TheManxMissile wrote:
I just dont think its fair is all.
How is it not fair that the races with stronger fields give more points than your average Asian race?
|
| |
|
|
| Lachi |
Posted on 21-02-2013 17:17
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8360
Joined: 29-06-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
kumazan wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
I just dont think its fair is all.
How is it not fair that the races with stronger fields give more points than your average Asian race? I guess you look at it from the wrong point of view. The field would get weaker or stronger over time depending on the points which can be won. UCI is basically weakening these races on purpose. |
| |
|
|
| Alakagom |
Posted on 21-02-2013 17:20
|
World Champion
Posts: 10452
Joined: 19-11-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
Eneco Tour and Tour of Poland will be the test races in WT with teams of six riders.
|
| |
|
|
| kumazan |
Posted on 21-02-2013 17:21
|
Team Leader
Posts: 6195
Joined: 02-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Uh? Those races have been giving the same points as the rest for long enough time and their fields are still crap. If anything, this would lead for some teams goign with B squads there to gather some easy points, and that would be more unfair.
Edited by kumazan on 21-02-2013 17:21
|
| |
|
|
| miggi133 |
Posted on 21-02-2013 17:26
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 2992
Joined: 19-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Montolivo wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Oh no , not this Giro d Europe sh*t again.
Agreed. Think the Giro should showcase itself in Italy to the foreign markets.
Urgh... They are coming to Dublin? Shit... Theyll probably will want to finish on O connell street or outside Trinity... Dont like the idea. We already have to many god f*cking tourists running around our campus on a normal day... That doubles in holiday season and quadrouples when there is a special even (Like when JB was shocasting a McLaren in Dublin)
|
| |
|
|
| cio93 |
Posted on 21-02-2013 17:28
|
World Champion
Posts: 10616
Joined: 29-10-2007
PCM$: 500.00
|
miggi133 wrote:
(Like when JB was shocasting a McLaren in Dublin)
I assume that is Jenson Button, not Justin Bieber
|
| |
|
|
| ShortsNL |
Posted on 21-02-2013 21:07
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 875
Joined: 17-11-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
cio93 wrote:
miggi133 wrote:
(Like when JB was shocasting a McLaren in Dublin)
I assume that is Jenson Button, not Justin Bieber
Jack Black! 
TheManxMissile wrote:
It is really unfair to those tours, especially the America Tour, which is very competitive and produces a lot of top quality riders. Now they won't get as fair a chance at a WT spot.
And with this change a team like MTN would not likely get reasonable chance at a Pro Conti license, same for teams like Champion System
I just dont think its fair is all.
I see your point, but I also think that top quality riders will probably get picked up by the WT sooner or later either way, when they prove their talent. |
| |
|
|
| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-02-2013 22:01
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 27880
Joined: 20-10-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
And secondly, I'm pretty sure UCI points play no role when it comes to awarding Pro Continental licenses. |
| |
|
