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Tour de France, Stage 12 - Friday, July 13th Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne - Annonay Davézieux
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SportingNonsense
Millar Smile

The commisaires do like to throw a DQ into the Green jersey competition each year, and Goss probably deserves it for that. Sagan played to the judges at the end, like Hushovd did on Cav a few years ago. It worked for Hushovd then!
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Pellizotti2
Teddy The Creator wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
roturn wrote:
Enough room for Sagan but still a bad sprint by Goss.
If the jury decides for Sagan, the green jersey already might be decided here.

What will the worst punishment be?


Relegated to the back of the group would be the standard pubishment for that.

Wasn't there only a few points up for grabs?

Sagan would get the 15 for sixth place, while Goss would receive zero.
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Guido Mukk
johannes-w wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Goss should be punished for that.


for what?

he crossed twice and he took sagans speed, it doesnt matter if there is enough space sagan had to brake


If Goss will be relegated for this..then Sagan green jersey taste and look like shit!
Edited by Guido Mukk on 13-07-2012 16:06
 
Avin Wargunnson
Guido Mukk wrote:
johannes-w wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Goss should be punished for that.


for what?

he crossed twice and he took sagans speed, it doesnt matter if there is enough space sagan had to brake


If Goss will be relehated for this..then Sagan green jersey taste and look like shit!

Or maybe your know-how about cycling rules look like shit, because this sprint was clearly and undoubtedly against rules of cyling in these days. He switched twice and clearly blocked Sagan. Very very dangerous move!
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 13-07-2012 16:07
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kgarvey
Goss deserves to have the points docked, no doubt about it.
 
Guido Mukk
SportingNonsense wrote:
Millar Smile

The commisaires do like to throw a DQ into the Green jersey competition each year, and Goss probably deserves it for that. Sagan played to the judges at the end, like Hushovd did on Cav a few years ago. It worked for Hushovd then!


indeed. Just drop down play hurt and demand penalty shot..all inside 10 sec.
 
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MILLAR YEAHHHHHHHHHH!! Smile
 
valverde321
I am just wondering, did Sagan and Goss have a large gap, that could be considered their own group? I havent seen the replay but it seemed like a large gap.

Is it possible they just switch their positions around?

Well 1 second gap in results, so maybe?
Edited by valverde321 on 13-07-2012 16:10
 
Teddy The Creator
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
johannes-w wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Goss should be punished for that.


for what?

he crossed twice and he took sagans speed, it doesnt matter if there is enough space sagan had to brake


If Goss will be relehated for this..then Sagan green jersey taste and look like shit!

Or maybe your know-how about cycling rules look like shit, because this sprint was clearly and undoubtedly against rules of cyling in these days. He switched twice and clearly blocked Sagan.

:lol: I could see this coming from you Avin.

I'm on the fence, but leaning towards Goss. But my bias is obvious so not sure what happens. SBS commentators seem confident it's not enough to relegate.
 
Avin Wargunnson
Guido Mukk wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Millar Smile

The commisaires do like to throw a DQ into the Green jersey competition each year, and Goss probably deserves it for that. Sagan played to the judges at the end, like Hushovd did on Cav a few years ago. It worked for Hushovd then!


indeed. Just drop down play hurt and demand penalty shot..all inside 10 sec.

He is impulsive rider and Goos almost brought him down at high spped. you want riders hurt or what? Shame on you...i was respecting you.
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Guido Mukk
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
johannes-w wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Goss should be punished for that.


for what?

he crossed twice and he took sagans speed, it doesnt matter if there is enough space sagan had to brake


If Goss will be relehated for this..then Sagan green jersey taste and look like shit!

Or maybe your know-how about cycling rules look like shit, because this sprint was clearly and undoubtedly against rules of cyling in these days. He switched twice and clearly blocked Sagan. Very very dangerous move!


I will definatly not debate this subject with you..you can not be objective on that matter
 
Teddy The Creator
Guido Mukk wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
johannes-w wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Goss should be punished for that.


for what?

he crossed twice and he took sagans speed, it doesnt matter if there is enough space sagan had to brake


If Goss will be relehated for this..then Sagan green jersey taste and look like shit!

Or maybe your know-how about cycling rules look like shit, because this sprint was clearly and undoubtedly against rules of cyling in these days. He switched twice and clearly blocked Sagan. Very very dangerous move!


I will definatly not debate this subject with you..you can not be objective on that matter

+1 I have to agree. Impossible to argue with Avin on this. Not because he's wrong, but there is no way he will give in.
 
baseballlover312
valverde321 wrote:
I am just wondering, did Sagan and Goss have a large gap, that could be considered their own group? I havent seen the replay but it seemed like a large gap.

Is it possible they just switch their positions around?

They had a one second agp, so you're right, that's all.
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Avin Wargunnson
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
johannes-w wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Goss should be punished for that.


for what?

he crossed twice and he took sagans speed, it doesnt matter if there is enough space sagan had to brake


If Goss will be relehated for this..then Sagan green jersey taste and look like shit!

Or maybe your know-how about cycling rules look like shit, because this sprint was clearly and undoubtedly against rules of cyling in these days. He switched twice and clearly blocked Sagan.

:lol: I could see this coming from you Avin.

I'm on the fence, but leaning towards Goss. But my bias is obvious so not sure what happens. SBS commentators seem confident it's not enough to relegate.

I swear i woul be happy also, if the results stay as they are, i dont have the problem with it, but Guido is using strong words before anything was decided.And if goes will be relegated to the end, i think it will be nopt undeserved.Wink
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Avin Wargunnson
Guido Mukk wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
johannes-w wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Goss should be punished for that.


for what?

he crossed twice and he took sagans speed, it doesnt matter if there is enough space sagan had to brake


If Goss will be relehated for this..then Sagan green jersey taste and look like shit!

Or maybe your know-how about cycling rules look like shit, because this sprint was clearly and undoubtedly against rules of cyling in these days. He switched twice and clearly blocked Sagan. Very very dangerous move!


I will definatly not debate this subject with you..you can not be objective on that matter

And what about the rest that think it was unfair and dangerous? It looks like the majority.Biased too? Smile
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kumazan
lol Sagan is a true Italian. Grin
 
valverde321
Goss apparently been relegated.
 
Avin Wargunnson
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
johannes-w wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Goss should be punished for that.


for what?

he crossed twice and he took sagans speed, it doesnt matter if there is enough space sagan had to brake


If Goss will be relehated for this..then Sagan green jersey taste and look like shit!

Or maybe your know-how about cycling rules look like shit, because this sprint was clearly and undoubtedly against rules of cyling in these days. He switched twice and clearly blocked Sagan. Very very dangerous move!


I will definatly not debate this subject with you..you can not be objective on that matter

+1 I have to agree. Impossible to argue with Avin on this. Not because he's wrong, but there is no way he will give in.

Fine, i will just shut up, i just gave my oppinion that it was intentional blocking against the rules.If cav was there instead of Sagan, i would think the same...
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Teddy The Creator
valverde321 wrote:
Goss apparently been relegated.

Gahh hope not. I'll have a lot of lost interest now if that's true. Bullshit.

*takes off Australian glasses*

Fair enough, he cut him off. Dissapointing that the competition is all but over now.
Edited by Teddy The Creator on 13-07-2012 16:16
 
Pellizotti2
Correct decision if you ask me. His move took away all Sagan's speed.
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