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| BenBarnes |
Posted on 18-09-2010 16:57
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issoisso wrote:
That's not actually Nibali. That's Jarod from The Pretender. "Vincenzo Nibali" is a made up person.
Haha! Great reference. I'm still pissed we never found out what The Center is! |
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| titleist82 |
Posted on 18-09-2010 16:59
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disappointing stage
that's the logical consequence of the route
extreme slopes may be spectacular to watch on TV but make the stage less interesting.
nothing barely happened untill 4km to go.
at -10km there were more than 50 riders in the main bunch
everyone was obviously scared of the last 3kms
the steep ascent produced small gaps (19th of the stage came in less than 2 minutes)
mosquera attacked with a good timing, but it was impossible to create a huge gap on that mountain. nibali has been great to keep him close and then gave it all on the last km bridging the gap. i'm not sure if he left mosquera the stage win intentionally or not.
motorbikes have been ridicolous once again |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 18-09-2010 17:10
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The problem isn't the steep final. There was such a big bunch because:
a) Navacerrada is ultra-mega easy.
b) Liquigas wasn't intersted in setting a high pace, Xacobeo hadn't the strength they needed.
titleist82 wrote:
motorbikes have been ridicolous once again
True. And we even almost didn't see the finish line.
Edited by kumazan on 18-09-2010 17:11
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| titleist82 |
Posted on 18-09-2010 17:20
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kumazan wrote:
The problem isn't the steep final. There was such a big bunch because:
a) Navacerrada is ultra-mega easy.
b) Liquigas wasn't intersted in setting a high pace, Xacobeo hadn't the strength they needed.
today schleck or purito would have tried a long distance attack maybe, but with a route like this it would have been a suicide.
in my opininon, these are not interesting mountain stage, even though i admit they are spectacular to watch.
it's much more interesting when there are 2-3 first category climbs in a row, with no tedious flat parts in between, and a mountain-top finish. 20% slopes are not necessary. |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 18-09-2010 17:21
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The strongest man won at the end. Kudos to Nibali.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 18-09-2010 17:25
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Andreas93 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
ember wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Arg... Nibali is going to win the Vuelta 2010.
Congratz Nibali.
Mosquera waited to long. At least Mosquera will finally get a Vuelta stage?
How on earth can you say he waited too long? If he had went before, Kreuziger would most likely closed him in on the "flat" parts of 6-8%. And then he would be left with nothing when the "real" climb started.
Because Mosquera can go at his own pace for a long time, like Sastre did in his prime.
Thats why i can on earth say that mate 
You can say it, but it only makes us laugh.
Haha, so who is us? You and ember?
It's several ways to attack a climb, going early has both it's positiv and negativ sides to it. The same as going late has it's own good and bad sides. Yes he might have cracked if he had gone earlier, but if you don't risk anything, how can you win?
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| Tuco the Ugly |
Posted on 18-09-2010 17:28
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valverde321 wrote:
Gilbert beats Bruseghin up the top.
That was Van Goolen. Gilbert came in 105th, 23 minutes down. |
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| Heine |
Posted on 18-09-2010 17:33
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Watching the end was really fun, well done by Nibali and finally a stagewin for Mosquera.
Now, lets hope the end of the Vuelta gives us some Mangame actions again 
BTW, no doubt the Tour (once again) has been the most boring GT
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| kumazan |
Posted on 18-09-2010 17:54
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titleist82 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
The problem isn't the steep final. There was such a big bunch because:
a) Navacerrada is ultra-mega easy.
b) Liquigas wasn't intersted in setting a high pace, Xacobeo hadn't the strength they needed.
today schleck or purito would have tried a long distance attack maybe, but with a route like this it would have been a suicide.
in my opininon, these are not interesting mountain stage, even though i admit they are spectacular to watch.
it's much more interesting when there are 2-3 first category climbs in a row, with no tedious flat parts in between, and a mountain-top finish. 20% slopes are not necessary.
I agree. But that was the Sierra de Madrid, not the Alps. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 18-09-2010 18:07
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Bleh Nibali wins, but I have to say today he really deserved to. He was equal to Mosquera so no discussion. He was the strongest all round rider of the riders left in this Vuelta.
Still always have the 'what if' Anton in my head though.
Nibali winning a GT is something I personally never saw happening. But he did it, well done to him.
I still don't see him doing that again though. Stubborn me...  |
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| ember |
Posted on 18-09-2010 18:10
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hillis91 wrote:
Andreas93 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
ember wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Arg... Nibali is going to win the Vuelta 2010.
Congratz Nibali.
Mosquera waited to long. At least Mosquera will finally get a Vuelta stage?
How on earth can you say he waited too long? If he had went before, Kreuziger would most likely closed him in on the "flat" parts of 6-8%. And then he would be left with nothing when the "real" climb started.
Because Mosquera can go at his own pace for a long time, like Sastre did in his prime.
Thats why i can on earth say that mate
You can say it, but it only makes us laugh.
Haha, so who is us? You and ember?
It's several ways to attack a climb, going early has both it's positiv and negativ sides to it. The same as going late has it's own good and bad sides. Yes he might have cracked if he had gone earlier, but if you don't risk anything, how can you win?
Are you saying that Mosquera didn't risk? 
He was completely dead the last kilometer, so saying that he didn't risk anything by attacking as early as he did, is odd.
Anyway, well done Nibali, he was no doubt the best overall rider of those who finished the Vuelta, even with that puncture on the TT. |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 18-09-2010 18:12
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ember wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Andreas93 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
ember wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Arg... Nibali is going to win the Vuelta 2010.
Congratz Nibali.
Mosquera waited to long. At least Mosquera will finally get a Vuelta stage?
How on earth can you say he waited too long? If he had went before, Kreuziger would most likely closed him in on the "flat" parts of 6-8%. And then he would be left with nothing when the "real" climb started.
Because Mosquera can go at his own pace for a long time, like Sastre did in his prime.
Thats why i can on earth say that mate
You can say it, but it only makes us laugh.
Haha, so who is us? You and ember?
It's several ways to attack a climb, going early has both it's positiv and negativ sides to it. The same as going late has it's own good and bad sides. Yes he might have cracked if he had gone earlier, but if you don't risk anything, how can you win?
Are you saying that Mosquera didn't risk?
He was completely dead the last kilometer, so saying that he didn't risk anything by attacking as early as he did, is odd.
Anyway, well done Nibali, he was no doubt the best overall rider of those who finished the Vuelta, even with that puncture on the TT.
Nope, i didn't say he didn't risk. You assumed that i did say that. But yes he did risk, of course he did. But IMO he should have attack earlier to get a pleasing gap. But whatever..
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 18-09-2010 18:13
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ruben wrote:
Bleh Nibali wins, but I have to say today he really deserved to. He was equal to Mosquera so no discussion. He was the strongest all round rider of the riders left in this Vuelta.
Still always have the 'what if' Anton in my head though.
Nibali winning a GT is something I personally never saw happening. But he did it, well done to him.
I still don't see him doing that again though. Stubborn me...
that was nice post ruben.. I was almost shure that he wont survive..specialy after TT puncture.
Mosquera was as we expected..fun and atacking rider
What Tour have to do..to beat Giro and Vuelta once more
Edited by Guido Mukk on 18-09-2010 18:17
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| marble |
Posted on 18-09-2010 18:13
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ruben wrote:
Bleh Nibali wins, but I have to say today he really deserved to. He was equal to Mosquera so no discussion. He was the strongest all round rider of the riders left in this Vuelta.
Still always have the 'what if' Anton in my head though.
Nibali winning a GT is something I personally never saw happening. But he did it, well done to him.
I still don't see him doing that again though. Stubborn me...
It all depends on the start list and the stages. I don't see him winning the Tour de France but he definitely proved himself capable of winning the Vuelta and also the Giro. If Arroyo didn't get that huge gap in the Giro, he would've been second. Basso won't be riding forever, so unless there's a new big italian talent that rather wants to win the Giro over and over than the Tour, then Nibali could win the Giro one day as well. |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 18-09-2010 18:13
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Guido Mukk wrote:
ruben wrote:
Bleh Nibali wins, but I have to say today he really deserved to. He was equal to Mosquera so no discussion. He was the strongest all round rider of the riders left in this Vuelta.
Still always have the 'what if' Anton in my head though.
Nibali winning a GT is something I personally never saw happening. But he did it, well done to him.
I still don't see him doing that again though. Stubborn me...
that was nice post ruben..
Get a room
Edit: That was a joke, in case nobody understood that it where
Edited by hillis91 on 18-09-2010 18:15
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 19-09-2010 10:10
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Didn't see the stage (was away), but congrats to Nibali for a great Vuelta. |
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| pmtg99 |
Posted on 19-09-2010 10:18
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marble wrote:
unless there's a new big italian talent that rather wants to win the Giro over and over than the Tour, then Nibali could win the Giro one day as well.
when does pelizotti return then? |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 19-09-2010 13:14
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Tuco the Ugly wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Gilbert beats Bruseghin up the top.
That was Van Goolen. Gilbert came in 105th, 23 minutes down.
OK Thanks. I couldn't beleive it was true. I swear the Eurosport announcers said it was. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 19-09-2010 13:20
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marble wrote:
unless there's a new big italian talent that rather wants to win the Giro over and over than the Tour, then Nibali could win the Giro one day as well.
Nibali was prepearing for Tour in 2009..also in for tour in 2010. Just Pellizotti scandal spoiled he's calender..he made it great even after that Giro podium and Vuelta win.
I hope to see him at the tour in 2011..top 6 material |
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| lagetcher |
Posted on 19-09-2010 13:24
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I finally managed to watch yesterday's stage. A perfect stage to "finish" and congrats to Nibali for riding very maturely on the steep gradients. In the end he was too good for Mosquera.
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