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| Deadpool |
Posted on 08-09-2010 22:29
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issoisso wrote:
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Apart from his fall, he was already dropped.
And Phinney sucks as climber. But that was already generally known
His strengths and weaknesses are very much like Hagen's.
And just like Hagen, he has lunatic fans who guarantee he can be a GT GC rider some day 
Phinney has no shot of being a GT rider. Talansky, Peterson, and Stetina are the three young Americans with a shot of being good GT riders some day. |
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Posted on 08-09-2010 22:31
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Stetina won the Bikesteamboat Stage Race just 2 days ago.  in front of horribly strong competition as Chris Baldwin (2nd) and Marc de Maar (3rd) |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 08-09-2010 22:33
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ruben wrote:
Stetina won the Bikesteamboat Stage Race just 2 days ago. in front of horribly strong competition as Chris Baldwin (2nd) and Marc de Maar (3rd)
Peterson and Talanksy look like the best bets for the future. Stetina is a good tter in addition to a decent climber, but doesn't look like he has the upside they thought he did two or three years ago.
Meanwhile, Alex Howes and Blake Caldwell can climb amazingly, but neither of them can TT. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 08-09-2010 22:47
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Deadpool wrote:
issoisso wrote:
ruben wrote:
Apart from his fall, he was already dropped.
And Phinney sucks as climber. But that was already generally known
His strengths and weaknesses are very much like Hagen's.
And just like Hagen, he has lunatic fans who guarantee he can be a GT GC rider some day
Phinney has no shot of being a GT rider. Talansky, Peterson, and Stetina are the three young Americans with a shot of being good GT riders some day.
+ Van Garderen?
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| Deda |
Posted on 08-09-2010 23:00
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Van Garderen might have a chance in GTs with long ITTs, he has a nice chance to develop into sort of a rider like Leipheimer or Rogers.
Edit: Well, in my HTC career he's the new Leipheimer 
Edited by Deda on 08-09-2010 23:01
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 08-09-2010 23:17
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Nah, TJ is a strong TTer and will do fine in the medium hills, but he'll never have the ability in the high mountains to compete.
Can he win smaller stage races? Certainly, and I expect him to (I think he'll be the best American rider in a year or two from now). But he doesn't have the GT upside that Talansky or Peterson have. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 08-09-2010 23:19
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I dunno, Van Garderen was 3th in the Dauphine, although the mountain field except for Contador/Vandenbroeck/Brajkovic wasn't good there |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 08-09-2010 23:22
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ruben wrote:
I dunno, Van Garderen was 3th in the Dauphine, although the mountain field except for Contador/Vandenbroeck/Brajkovic wasn't good there
So, look at that race. Vogondy took 6th, while Sanchez was 18th and Menchov 22nd. I think that shows everyone wasn't really on top form.
EDIT: and if you are wondering why I'm so big on Talansky, it isn't just because of his results. Check out his blog here https://andrewtalansky.blogspot.com/ Some of the best cycling reading out there.
Edited by Deadpool on 08-09-2010 23:26
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| ruben |
Posted on 08-09-2010 23:38
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I know Talansky is good. I expect him to be up there in a few years if he keeps this up. |
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 09-09-2010 00:18
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I think Van Garderen might be someone lile LL Sanchez, good enough to win Paris-Nice, but no GT's... |
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| Deda |
Posted on 09-09-2010 10:16
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Noone said anything about TVG winning GTs 
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
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| itsmichael |
Posted on 09-09-2010 15:49
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Tour de l'Avenir - Stage 4
1. Romain Hardy --- France
2. Romain Bardet --- France
3. David Rösch --- Germany
4. Jean-lou Paiani --- France + 02:00
5. Michael Matthews --- Australia + 02:06
6. John Degenkolb --- Germany
7. Luke Rowe --- Great - Brittain
8. Sylvester Janiszewski --- Poland
9. Alexey Tsatevitch --- Russia
10. Marko Kump --- Slovenia
Edited by itsmichael on 10-09-2010 16:53
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Posted on 10-09-2010 16:53
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Tour de l'Avernir - Stage 5
1. John Degenkolb --- Germany
2. Jezus Herrada --- Spain
3. Nelson Oliviera --- Portugal
4. Benjamin King --- Australia
5. Jan Tratnik --- Slovenia
6. Michael Mattews --- Australia
7. Luke Rowe --- Great-Britain
8. Sylwester Janiszewski --- Poland
9. Blaz Furdi --- Slovenia
10. - Vicente Garcia da Mateos Rubio --- Spain
Edited by itsmichael on 10-09-2010 16:57
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-09-2010 19:45
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itsmichael wrote:
Tour de l'Avernir - Stage 5
1. John Degenkolb --- Germany
2. Jezus Herrada --- Spain
3. Nelson Oliviera --- Portugal
4. Benjamin King --- Australia
5. Jan Tratnik --- Slovenia
6. Michael Mattews --- Australia
7. Luke Rowe --- Great-Britain
8. Sylwester Janiszewski --- Poland
9. Blaz Furdi --- Slovenia
10. - Vicente Garcia da Mateos Rubio --- Spain
Whoever wrote the names of the riders should be shot
"Jezus" and "Oliviera"...
Notice that Degenkolb wasn't content with asserting his sprint superiority.
He attacked and dropped the field with Herrada and Oliveira
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 11-09-2010 14:48
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some stream link for ToB? |
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| Il Grillo |
Posted on 11-09-2010 15:00
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Greipel wins the first stage.
1. Greipel
2. Belletti
3. Henderson
Edited by Il Grillo on 11-09-2010 15:24
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| Anonymer |
Posted on 11-09-2010 15:22
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season victory number 19 |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 11-09-2010 15:24
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Francisco Ventoso wins Paris - Bruxelles
1. Francisco Ventoso (ESP) Carmiooro - NGC
2. Romain Feillu (FRA) Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team
3. Stefan van Dijk (NED) Verandas Willems
4. Paul Martens (GER) Rabobank
5. Jens Keukeleire (BEL) Cofidis, le Credit en Ligne
6. Alessandro Donati (ITA) Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci
7. Tom Veelers (NED) Skil - Shimano
8. Roy Curvers (NED) Skil - Shimano
9. Alexander Kristoff (NOR) BMC Racing Team
10. Edwig Cammaerts (BEL) Lotto - Bodysol
Edited by Wilier on 11-09-2010 15:44
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Posted on 11-09-2010 18:26
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Tour de l'Avenir, Stage 6
1. Nairo Quintana (COL)
2. Andrew Talansky (USA) 39"
3. Mikel Landa (ESP) 39"
4. Darwin Atapuma (COL) 41"
5. Tom Jelte Slagter (NED) 43"
6. Michael Matthews (AUS) 01'34"
7. Wilco Kelderman (NED) 01'38"
8. Higinio Fernandez (ESP) 01'38"
9. Jarlinson Pantano (COL) 01'38"
10. Dimitry Ignatiev (RUS) 01'38"
Current GC:
1. Nairo Quintana (COL)
2. Tom Jelte Slagter (NED) 20"
3. Jarlinson Pantano (COL) 38"
4. Mikel Landa (ESP) 41"
5. Darwin Atapuma (COL) 49"
6. Andrew Talansky (USA) 57"
7. Romain Bardet (FRA) 01'07"
8. David Rosch (GER) 01'16"
9. Thomas Bonnin (FRA) 01'35"
10. Higinio Fernandez (ESP) 01'54"
The Colombians are very strong. Also Slagter had a good ride and is now 2nd in GC Eijssen had a bad day and lost almost 4 minutes.
Edited by Wilier on 11-09-2010 18:27
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Posted on 11-09-2010 18:44
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Avenir ends with a 13.5km TT tomorrow. Would be nice to see a Colombian win it. I hope we get a few new Boteros or Solers on the European scene soon!
Is Dimitry Mikhail's brother? |
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