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Flanders Classics 2017 - DDV/E3/G-W/Panne-Koksijde
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| Shonak |
Posted on 28-03-2017 23:15
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I hope Philbear doesn't waste too much energy for De Ronde. He got what he came for, confidence. Better take it easy the next two days, maybe drop out if you lose the GC lead. He'll need every grain of reserves for Sagan and GVA, I want those three guys to be in perfect shape + maybe a recovered Vanmarcke. Yummy.
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| nils erik |
Posted on 29-03-2017 06:25
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Let's also not forget the almighty Ole Animaux of Joker, who ended up 13th today and aims for top 10 in the GC. First time he shows his huge strength on the top level, apart from breakaways in Nokere-Koerse and last years Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen. Has a great career ahead of him. |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 29-03-2017 07:56
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Paul23 wrote:
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[quote][url=https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=46939&pid=1228410#post_1228410]
Terpstra is such a nice guy that he said Santambrogio was seeking attention when Santambrogio was considering suicide 
And what he did in Eneco Tour two years ago. The guys basicly a dick. The problem is not that I have a thing against Terpstra, but that Paul is such a Quick Step fanboy. It's not just your political ideas that are onesided, it's your opinion about certain riders/teams as well. So no, this is not about the politics thread, it's about your general forum imput.
I'm not a quickstep fanboy. I just like some riders of their team. And yes, it happens pretty often, that people say: "I'm gonna kill myself!", because they are seeking for attention. I'm not sure if it was the same with Santambrogio, but it can be.
"It's not just your political ideas that are onesided"
>Talking about onesided opinions
>thinks everyone who is not left-wing is a nazi
>mfw
But well, I never said, that Niki isn't cocky sometimes, almost every pro rider is. As is Sagan, but still you go after Terpstra after an unapproved comment and not after Sagan when there is actual footage, talking about "onesided opinions".
https://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopi...6#p1355756
Check the posts starting from this point. Santamborgio says addio mondo and a few other things on his twitter which suggests that he is considering suicide.
https://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopi...4#p1355924
Then, Terpstra says that Santamborgio firstly goes extreme to win then does this to get attention.
Anyone who defends Terpstra in this case is either a blind fan or a troll.
PS: This topic and arguments between users go from page 19 to page 25
Everyone who is writing "Goodbye World" on twitter is seeking for attention. And I'm not saying this, because TerpDerp is involved, but because it basically is like that. If you really consider suicide, you don't tell anyone.
Terpstra is right.
And no, I'm not a troll, or a massive fanboy. I wouldn't even defend Tony if he would write that on twitter. Santambrogio was crying for help 
And Terpstra was doing what? He was kicking Mauro while he was down 
What would have happened if Mauro would have been found dead?
The thing is that people who write stuff like that on twitter will mostly not kill themselves. That's not a cry for help, that's a way to get answers like: "Don't do it, we love you."
If he would really considered it, we wouldn't know that right now. Sadly people who just try to get themselves in the spotlight with such behavior get too much attention.
Are you serious with this rubbish you are posting? People have committed suicide after posting similar things on Twitter and Facebook so what makes what Santambrogio was any different? Defending what Terpstra did shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what people going through when suffering from depression and or suicidal thoughts, it really doesn't take much to push someone over the edge. And even if Santambrogio wasn't truly having suicidal thoughts it was still a stupid thing for Terpstra to do. If you are any sort of a person just don't do things like that.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 29-03-2017 08:35
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Well said Strydz. There are even numerous cases where people commited suicide "live" on the web, there are people crying for help in front of anonymous audience, it is modern phenom. It does not mean in all cases that they are just seeking attention and dont have deep depression that can lead to suicide. So stop talking rubbish Paul, as you obviously know shit about it.
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| Selwink |
Posted on 29-03-2017 08:44
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UCI has fined several riders for riding on the sidewalk (which is prohibited). Normal punishment is DSQ. Jury motivation: ''Too many riders did it. We can't kick them all out right?'' According to the jury, the next time this happens riders will be DSQd. Just like after Omloop Het Nieuwsblad. Oh wait
The massive fine does compensate this though. 200CHF per person
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| Selwink |
Posted on 29-03-2017 15:25
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Kristoff wins stage 2 of De Panne, which saw echelons. Durbridge loses any chance of GC victory as he was dropped.
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| Dusen |
Posted on 29-03-2017 15:30
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Don't think Kittel is to happy with the job Gilbert did at the final km's. Instead of doing a solid leadout with all the Quickstep guys for Kittel, Gilbert went in the break by himself and Kittel ended up isolated. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 29-03-2017 15:30
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Selwink wrote:
Kristoff wins stage 2 of De Panne, which saw echelons. Durbridge loses any chance of GC victory as he was dropped.
Long sprint from Krsitoff and he held on well to hold off Kittel and Theuns as things were stretched in the front group over the last few kms. Gilbert picked up a couple of time bonsues along the way and marked out a late move from Brandle too. Those two looking good for 1 and 2 on GC with Gilbert comfortably clear before the last road stage and then afternoon TT.
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 29-03-2017 15:35
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Dusen wrote:
Don't think Kittel is to happy with the job Gilbert did at the final km's. Instead of doing a solid leadout with all the Quickstep guys for Kittel, Gilbert went in the break by himself and Kittel ended up isolated.
Braendle dangerous for GC. Only about 30 secs back and great TT'ist. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 29-03-2017 15:38
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Don't think Kittel is to happy with the job Gilbert did at the final km's. Instead of doing a solid leadout with all the Quickstep guys for Kittel, Gilbert went in the break by himself and Kittel ended up isolated.
Braendle dangerous for GC. Only about 30 secs back and great TT'ist.
Plus Kittel had Sabbatini with him then Gilbert rode a little at the death too when it came back together. Also Marcel had already had to work earlier for the GC ambitions so was probably a bit ragged by then, like most of the front group no doubt.
Edited by ianrussell on 29-03-2017 15:38
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| Dusen |
Posted on 29-03-2017 15:38
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Don't think Kittel is to happy with the job Gilbert did at the final km's. Instead of doing a solid leadout with all the Quickstep guys for Kittel, Gilbert went in the break by himself and Kittel ended up isolated.
Braendle dangerous for GC. Only about 30 secs back and great TT'ist.
Yeah, that's true. That is a danger for Gilbert's overall. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 29-03-2017 15:40
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Gilbert is clear now though. Unless the road stage gets blown apart again the gap is comfortable for the shortish TT, even to the likes of Brandle.
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| matt17br |
Posted on 29-03-2017 17:03
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ianrussell wrote:
Gilbert is clear now though. Unless the road stage gets blown apart again the gap is comfortable for the shortish TT, even to the likes of Brandle.
I don't know, 30 seconds is not that much in 14 kms. That said, Gilbert is in some otherworldly form.
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 29-03-2017 17:08
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matt17br wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
Gilbert is clear now though. Unless the road stage gets blown apart again the gap is comfortable for the shortish TT, even to the likes of Brandle.
I don't know, 30 seconds is not that much in 14 kms. That said, Gilbert is in some otherworldly form.
I don't actually think that his from is THAT good. He dropped Durbo on the Muur. That's not really THE cobbled rider...
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| matt17br |
Posted on 29-03-2017 17:21
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Yeah, because Durbridge is just some average TTist right?
And of course De Panne is the first race this year where Phil Gil actually performs decently!
Putting things into context is overrated tbh
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 29-03-2017 17:37
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matt17br wrote:
Yeah, because Durbridge is just some average TTist right?
And of course De Panne is the first race this year where Phil Gil actually performs decently!
Putting things into context is overrated tbh
Durbridge was also 4th in E3 Harelbeke and Dwars door Vlaanderen. He was also 6th in Strade Bianche. These results only strength Matt's point.
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 29-03-2017 17:40
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Don't think Kittel is to happy with the job Gilbert did at the final km's. Instead of doing a solid leadout with all the Quickstep guys for Kittel, Gilbert went in the break by himself and Kittel ended up isolated.
Braendle dangerous for GC. Only about 30 secs back and great TT'ist. Brandle is 50 seconds behind, not 30. |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 29-03-2017 19:44
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matt17br wrote:
Yeah, because Durbridge is just some average TTist right?
And of course De Panne is the first race this year where Phil Gil actually performs decently!
Putting things into context is overrated tbh
Nah, I don't say, that he's in a bad form, but shouldn't he dispatch guys like Durbridge way quicker, when he has to race against guys like Valverde, Sagan, GVA and more. I don't think that Durbo is up to their level.
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| Kiserlovski01 |
Posted on 29-03-2017 19:50
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Paul23 wrote:
matt17br wrote:
Yeah, because Durbridge is just some average TTist right?
And of course De Panne is the first race this year where Phil Gil actually performs decently!
Putting things into context is overrated tbh
Nah, I don't say, that he's in a bad form, but shouldn't he dispatch guys like Durbridge way quicker, when he has to race against guys like Valverde, Sagan, GVA and more. I don't think that Durbo is up to their level.
It's quite obvious Durbridge's been performing better than he ever has before.
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 29-03-2017 20:03
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Kiserlovski01 wrote:
Paul23 wrote:
matt17br wrote:
Yeah, because Durbridge is just some average TTist right?
And of course De Panne is the first race this year where Phil Gil actually performs decently!
Putting things into context is overrated tbh
Nah, I don't say, that he's in a bad form, but shouldn't he dispatch guys like Durbridge way quicker, when he has to race against guys like Valverde, Sagan, GVA and more. I don't think that Durbo is up to their level.
It's quite obvious Durbridge's been performing better than he ever has before.
Either that, or other riders aren't performing that well atm.
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