|
Giro d'Italia Week 3
|
| ianrussell |
Posted on 26-05-2014 10:21
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3440
Joined: 09-10-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Found the last hour of each of the weekends stages at last. What's with the lack of vids on the usual channels, the Giro's lawyers working overtime?
Anyway safely downloaded to watch on the way to and from work to catch up on what sounds like some great racing. |
| |
|
|
| Smoku |
Posted on 26-05-2014 11:27
|
Domestique
Posts: 428
Joined: 22-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Aru - really impressive. Thing is he'll likely pay for that just as Pozzo did for Oropa. His action surely made the youth classification interesting, but in the end I believe it wil be decided rather by who loses less on a bad day. And Aru is going to have one.
As for GC - I know there are plenty mountain finishes to come but if such a spectacular stage didn't provide large gains in GC, what kind of spectacular action would it take? And is anyone able to provide it? Quintana is already closing due to "marginal gains", but I don't believe he'll be able to snatch enough unless Uran cracks very early somewhere.
In the end the stage which will be most important for GC is not going to be tomorrow, nor Zoncolan but the Cime Grappa TT. And judging by Uran's performance in previous TT...
My guess on the final podium
1. Uran
2, Quintana with over a minute loss
3. Majka - clearly behind Quintana and just above others. |
| |
|
|
| Stromeon |
Posted on 26-05-2014 11:38
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3507
Joined: 06-10-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Smoku wrote:
In the end the stage which will be most important for GC is not going to be tomorrow, nor Zoncolan but the Cime Grappa TT.
This. Zoncolan (and also perhaps tomorrow, depending on weather etc) will be stage where the Giro can be lost but Monte Grappa is the stage where the Giro can be won.
|
| |
|
|
| cactus-jack |
Posted on 26-05-2014 12:32
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3936
Joined: 31-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
I agree, but it's still a bit to early to say wether Aru is feeling great, if Uran is feeling like crap and if Quintana is making his way up. I think perhaps one more mountain stage will give a relativly clear picture of wether yesterdays stage was just a fluke or not.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
|
| |
|
|
| Martial1 |
Posted on 26-05-2014 14:16
|
Neo-Pro
Posts: 388
Joined: 30-04-2014
PCM$: 200.00
|
cactus-jack wrote: I agree, but it's still a bit to early to say wether Aru is feeling great, if Uran is feeling like crap and if Quintana is making his way up. I think perhaps one more mountain stage will give a relativly clear picture of wether yesterdays stage was just a fluke or not.
This. |
| |
|
|
| Schleck96 |
Posted on 26-05-2014 14:43
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1498
Joined: 10-08-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
We need to see what happens in a stage with massive mountains, which is... tomorrow's stage  |
| |
|
|
| Shonak |
Posted on 26-05-2014 14:55
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15615
Joined: 16-07-2013
PCM$: 350.00
|
Quintana should have quite an advantage tomorrow when it comes to Gavia and Stelvio due to being born so high in the mountains. Altitude is key, but neither Gavia nor Stelvio will be decisive unless Movistar want to make it so. If they pace hard over the Stelvio, other contenders may have problems and miss the energy later on when they hit Val Martello. Totally excited for tomorrow's stage.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
|
| |
|
|
| depeche92 |
Posted on 26-05-2014 15:00
|
Domestique
Posts: 489
Joined: 24-08-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Guys, is almost sure they will go for plan b tomorrow 
https://pbs.twimg....jpg:large |
| |
|
|
| Stromeon |
Posted on 26-05-2014 15:03
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3507
Joined: 06-10-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Shonak wrote:
Quintana should have quite an advantage tomorrow when it comes to Gavia and Stelvio due to being born so high in the mountains. Altitude is key, but neither Gavia nor Stelvio will be decisive unless Movistar want to make it so. If they pace hard over the Stelvio, other contenders may have problems and miss the energy later on when they hit Val Martello. Totally excited for tomorrow's stage.
If it's not cancelled/re-routed, that is 
EDIT: (to avoid double post)
'is almost sure' - says who? I haven't seen anything that indicates that it's almost sure to be re-routed. And the link is the alternative route they drew up last year so is not really concrete enough evidence.
Edited by Stromeon on 26-05-2014 15:08
|
| |
|
|
| CountArach |
Posted on 26-05-2014 15:07
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8290
Joined: 14-07-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Shonak wrote:
Quintana should have quite an advantage tomorrow when it comes to Gavia and Stelvio due to being born so high in the mountains. Altitude is key, but neither Gavia nor Stelvio will be decisive unless Movistar want to make it so. If they pace hard over the Stelvio, other contenders may have problems and miss the energy later on when they hit Val Martello. Totally excited for tomorrow's stage.
Just like De Gendt.
Oh wait.
In reality being born at altitude seems to have very little long-term physiological impact, with most people putting at its impact on the human body (mostly through increased haematocrit levels) at about 28 days (I could be misremembering but there is certainly little to suggest a long-term benefit). If you want more information see here:
https://inrng.com/...-altitude/
Also worth noting is this line: "In fact Quintana lives in Pamplona, Spain where the elevation is about 450 metres."
|
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 22-11-2024 16:25
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| Smoku |
Posted on 26-05-2014 15:31
|
Domestique
Posts: 428
Joined: 22-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
I still don't believe in any GC relevant gains on mountain stages. Be it through attack or having a bad day. Even if someone cracks it would have to be a spectacular crack to hand out over a minute. My comment on Aru was more about his unlikeliness to repeat such performance than the necessity of him losing time somewhere.
And if the rumours on route change are true it's Cime Grappa or bust. Zoncolan will be very exciting as a last chance stage, but I just don't think that one can make up on Zoncolan if didn't make up on Grappa. Especially that they will ride together, observe themselves and react to every move. |
| |
|
|
| Andro |
Posted on 26-05-2014 15:32
|
Domestique
Posts: 665
Joined: 23-03-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Such terrible race organising if they have to cancel the stage again this year.
The plan B looks incredibly dull. Val Martello is not difficult enough to create action without some large mountains before it. This was the only proper multi-mountain stage this year, fucking hell.
Please let the weather be good so we can have the original stage. |
| |
|
|
| Shonak |
Posted on 26-05-2014 15:44
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15615
Joined: 16-07-2013
PCM$: 350.00
|
I wasn't aware, good article. I do recall that Quintana went to altitude training though, and I imagine that tomorrow's stage is one of the main reasons as to why he did it.
Though the article states that benefits are lost within a month, I do wonder if Quintana profits more from such training than other riders, because he used to live on 3000 meters? I imagine that it's easier to "regain" those advantages in an altitude training rather than "built" them up as european and most other american riders have to do it in such a training. With "regain", I mean that his and other's bodies may not completely forget their childhood and teenage years. The effects may be lost, but the body hasn't completey forgotten it. After all, one's skin for example remembers every sunburn too.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
|
| |
|
|
| Stromeon |
Posted on 26-05-2014 16:03
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3507
Joined: 06-10-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Looks manageable here, but that's not the summit, and it appears to be snowing...
|
| |
|
|
| Stromeon |
Posted on 26-05-2014 16:35
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3507
Joined: 06-10-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Sorry to double post but...
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/gavia...ro-ditalia
|
| |
|
|
| TimoCycling |
Posted on 26-05-2014 16:36
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1765
Joined: 27-08-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Let's hope it will stay like that!! |
| |
|
|
| jph27 |
Posted on 26-05-2014 16:36
|
Team Leader
Posts: 7339
Joined: 20-03-2010
PCM$: 900.00
|
Pozzovivo is ill, hence his struggles yesterday. He hopes to better for having the rest day. |
| |
|
|
| CountArach |
Posted on 26-05-2014 16:47
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8290
Joined: 14-07-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Shonak wrote:
I wasn't aware, good article. I do recall that Quintana went to altitude training though, and I imagine that tomorrow's stage is one of the main reasons as to why he did it.
Though the article states that benefits are lost within a month, I do wonder if Quintana profits more from such training than other riders, because he used to live on 3000 meters? I imagine that it's easier to "regain" those advantages in an altitude training rather than "built" them up as european and most other american riders have to do it in such a training. With "regain", I mean that his and other's bodies may not completely forget their childhood and teenage years. The effects may be lost, but the body hasn't completey forgotten it. After all, one's skin for example remembers every sunburn too.
Possibly and you could be right but I imagine there have been very few tears done on it.
|
| |
|
|
| TimoCycling |
Posted on 26-05-2014 16:50
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1765
Joined: 27-08-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
I don't get why people are bashing the Giro course makers. Like they change the weather. They want heroïc stages, and this would be one. If the weather's good. If not, they now have a good plan B, so I feel like they are not to blame. |
| |
|
|
| Strydz |
Posted on 26-05-2014 17:01
|
Team Leader
Posts: 5894
Joined: 02-08-2011
PCM$: 1625.00
|
Andro wrote:
Such terrible race organising if they have to cancel the stage again this year.
The plan B looks incredibly dull. Val Martello is not difficult enough to create action without some large mountains before it. This was the only proper multi-mountain stage this year, fucking hell.
Please let the weather be good so we can have the original stage.
It isn't terrible organising, this is the issue with the Giro being in May is always going to be the weather, what are they meant to do? You could leave out these amazing climbs but then people would complain that there is no Gavia or Stelvio so really they have to take the chance. It would be a dull stage if it gets shortended but i'd rather that than not seeing these climbs included at all.
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/ |
| |
|
