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Spilak23
fosforgasXIII wrote:
Jonathan Nicolas Castroviejo

Nairo Alexander Quintana Rojas


Quintana is Colombian though Pfft


And according to letour.fr Castroviejo is Japanese, will change that aswell Pfft
Edited by Spilak23 on 20-06-2013 18:46
 
FreitasPCM
Rojas became a van Avermaet in the past 2-3 years. Can pass climbs, but not a threat in sprints.
 
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He could always pass climbs. Arguably he used to climb better
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Selwink
Vacansoleil squad

Kris Boeckmans
Thomas de Gendt
Juan Antonio Flecha
Johnny Hoogerland
Sergey Lagutin
Wout Poels
Boy van Poppel
Danny van Poppel
Lieuwe Westra

Danny van Poppel is just 19 years oldShock
edit: and he is also the youngest participant since WW-II
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Jesleyh
Danny!!!!! Wink
Wonder what he can do at the TdF. I'm counting on a win of course Pfft
Nah, wonder if he's able to be competitive with all the big guys being there.
Couple of Top 10s would already be nice Wink

Why no Markus actually?
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Spilak23
Why no Markus actually?


Too young? No, they don't care about that..


I hope they release Rujano soon. It doesn't look like they will let him race
Edited by Spilak23 on 21-06-2013 07:57
 
krisa
Pellizotti2 wrote:
I'd still say that Sky are stronger, but definitely an excellent squad.

I think you're overrating Szmyd, though. He has seemed to be in decline for the past year or so. Still a valuable team member of course, but I should think that both Amador and Castroviejo are better at the moment.
Yeah indeed Kiryenka does more then the whole team movistar Wink
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Pellizotti2
Jesleyh wrote:
Danny!!!!! Wink
Wonder what he can do at the TdF. I'm counting on a win of course Pfft
Nah, wonder if he's able to be competitive with all the big guys being there.
Couple of Top 10s would already be nice Wink

As pointed out on the previous page, it's really not a positive thing for him. He's way, way too young to ride a GT already.
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Who said he's meant to finish it ?
 
Aleakez
i had a discussion on Richie Porte yesterday, i said he could finish top 3, and my friend just laughed at me Frown he had some great results this year what do you think? Angry
 
Jesleyh
Aleakez wrote:
i had a discussion on Richie Porte yesterday, i said he could finish top 3, and my friend just laughed at me Frown he had some great results this year what do you think? Angry

I don't think he can make Top 3. He's not on Conta, Purito, Valverde Quintana etc. level.
+ He has to work for Froome I suppose.
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ianrussell
So looking forward to having some time off for stages 18 and 19 for 2 big mountain stages that have TV coverage from start to finish.

Having said that the freaky weather continues with flooding putting some of the (earlier) Pyrenean stages at risk apparently so never say never there might be 10 feet of snow at 1000m in July yet!
 
Miguel98
Aleakez wrote:
i had a discussion on Richie Porte yesterday, i said he could finish top 3, and my friend just laughed at me Frown he had some great results this year what do you think? Angry


If he didn't had to work for Froome, he would probably finish top 5. And the answer would always be''marginal gains''.
 
ianrussell
Jesleyh wrote:
Aleakez wrote:
i had a discussion on Richie Porte yesterday, i said he could finish top 3, and my friend just laughed at me Frown he had some great results this year what do you think? Angry

I don't think he can make Top 3. He's not on Conta, Purito, Valverde Quintana etc. level.
+ He has to work for Froome I suppose.


I think he can top 3 as current form makes him a much better TT than those guys but it is unlikely. Am sure Sky will try for the same approach with Porte being the back up plan this year, so they will want him hanging in as much as possible after any exertion for Froome and riding the TT's hard plus they could even 1-2 it with attacks a few times.
Edited by ianrussell on 21-06-2013 14:28
 
Pellizotti2
Aleakez wrote:
i had a discussion on Richie Porte yesterday, i said he could finish top 3, and my friend just laughed at me Frown he had some great results this year what do you think? Angry

I'd say it's possible. Will depend on whether Contador, Purito, Valverde and the others are willing to take risks or not.
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ianrussell
What the hell lets be proved totally wrong (again) and say Froome, Contador, Porte for the podium in that order Pfft
 
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Porte should be the best bet for a 3rd place this season if he wasn't working for Froome (Perhaps he will be anyway). I really can't see any riders besides Froome and Contador that will end above him as a given.
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fosforgasXIII
I'm very sure Porte will be in the top 10 this year, but not on podium. He's really develloping to be a good GC-rider, might have a chance at the Giro next year if Nibali won't be riding it.
 
jako3219
I don't believe in porte i the top 5, partly because he is going to work for Froome and partly because there's so many good captains there. I Think that the top 5 would look like something like this:
1. Froome
2. Contador
3. Rodríguez
4. Van den Broeck
5. Valverde

 
fosforgasXIII
jako3219 wrote:
I don't believe in porte i the top 5, partly because he is going to work for Froome and partly because there's so many good captains there. I Think that the top 5 would look like something like this:
1. Froome
2. Contador
3. Rodríguez
4. Van den Broeck
5. Valverde



Van den Broeck always gets 4th Smile

I wonder why so many people have Valverde as favourite for top 3/ top 5 though.
 
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