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| Vien |
Posted on 11-06-2012 20:04
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Trust me, I know a lot about losing weight. But eating practically nothing and training for hours a day sounds like robbery on your body though. I don't get how that could make you cycle faster.
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| johnnyjur |
Posted on 11-06-2012 20:16
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Vien wrote:
johnnyjur wrote:
Vien wrote:
My thought. A lot of riders use weight loss as an excuse for their great performances nowadays (Westra!), but wouldn't not eating and training for hours totally burn up your muscles?
Losing weight doesn't have to mean you stop eating. Like cav says, he stops eating candy, soft drinks and ready meals.
Westra claims to have been living on water all winter though. Besides I'm sure most cyclists don't eat candy or drink softdrinks and all teams have their own cook.
I'm only quoting what Cav himself says in the article about candy and so on. And they're not practically eating nothing. The only (non-surgical) way to lose weight is to lose more calories than you're gaining. So you can still eat pretty much food when you're training.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 11-06-2012 20:18
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solano wrote:
A couple of years ago I weighed 80kg. I used to drink about 2 litres of juice a day, thinking that it was healthy. Once I realsied the sugar content I stopped and lost 1kg a week for 3 months (combined with stepping up my cycling). I have since weighed about 68kg, although I put on weight when I couldn't cycle for 6 months. I stopped eating sandwiches for lunch and that helped control my weight.
A year ago I weighed 63kg. Now I weigh 50kg, and am half a foot taller. Dramatic weight loss with few side effects isn't impossible. It just means none of your clothes fit.  |
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| Vien |
Posted on 11-06-2012 20:20
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jph27 wrote:
solano wrote:
A couple of years ago I weighed 80kg. I used to drink about 2 litres of juice a day, thinking that it was healthy. Once I realsied the sugar content I stopped and lost 1kg a week for 3 months (combined with stepping up my cycling). I have since weighed about 68kg, although I put on weight when I couldn't cycle for 6 months. I stopped eating sandwiches for lunch and that helped control my weight.
A year ago I weighed 63kg. Now I weigh 50kg, and am half a foot taller. Dramatic weight loss with few side effects isn't impossible. It just means none of your clothes fit.
I just hope you're not tall 
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| jph27 |
Posted on 11-06-2012 20:20
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Vien wrote:
jph27 wrote:
solano wrote:
A couple of years ago I weighed 80kg. I used to drink about 2 litres of juice a day, thinking that it was healthy. Once I realsied the sugar content I stopped and lost 1kg a week for 3 months (combined with stepping up my cycling). I have since weighed about 68kg, although I put on weight when I couldn't cycle for 6 months. I stopped eating sandwiches for lunch and that helped control my weight.
A year ago I weighed 63kg. Now I weigh 50kg, and am half a foot taller. Dramatic weight loss with few side effects isn't impossible. It just means none of your clothes fit.
I just hope you're not tall
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 11-06-2012 20:24
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I was 188 and 63kg. 
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| Vien |
Posted on 11-06-2012 20:27
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jph27 wrote:
Vien wrote:
jph27 wrote:
solano wrote:
A couple of years ago I weighed 80kg. I used to drink about 2 litres of juice a day, thinking that it was healthy. Once I realsied the sugar content I stopped and lost 1kg a week for 3 months (combined with stepping up my cycling). I have since weighed about 68kg, although I put on weight when I couldn't cycle for 6 months. I stopped eating sandwiches for lunch and that helped control my weight.
A year ago I weighed 63kg. Now I weigh 50kg, and am half a foot taller. Dramatic weight loss with few side effects isn't impossible. It just means none of your clothes fit.
I just hope you're not tall
5ft7 now. 168cm.
That makes up for it 
I lost a lot of weight last year, up to 67 kg (1m85). Was close to getting anorectic (is that a word?) behaviour until I fainted twice and got forced to go to the doctor. 75kg now, doctor's advice, though I've also been lifting weights a lot. That's why I don't get why eating absolutely nothing can be healthy. Though I get there can be ways to lose weight without being unhealthy.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 11-06-2012 21:12
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Vien wrote:
George Hincapie will retire at the end of the season.
About time, but I'm gonna miss him 
I know he's getting older, but come on! Not even 40 yet! He could go on.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 11-06-2012 22:03
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Roelandts' fall won't endanger his Tour, he says.
It's nothing serious, luckily.
I was getting kind of worried again. He missed nearly half the season thanks to his fall in TDU, wouldn't want him to miss the other half.
Source: https://www.sporza.be/cm/sporza/wielre...dts_na_val (Dutch) |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 11-06-2012 22:03
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RSN Preliminary TDF Squad:
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/radio...rance-team
Chris Horner left off. Why exactly? Lats year half of it was an American team, now there aren't any Americans.
So gotta find someone to take this atrocious, unjustified, unbearable descision out on. 
In fact...
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 11-06-2012 22:05
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Vien wrote:
johnnyjur wrote:
Vien wrote:
My thought. A lot of riders use weight loss as an excuse for their great performances nowadays (Westra!), but wouldn't not eating and training for hours totally burn up your muscles?
Losing weight doesn't have to mean you stop eating. Like cav says, he stops eating candy, soft drinks and ready meals.
Westra claims to have been living on water all winter though. Besides I'm sure most cyclists don't eat candy or drink softdrinks and all teams have their own cook.
It must be one hell of a job for one cook to go and cook at each rider's place twice a day. 
Seriously, it's time to explain a few things : 
When you do an effort, no matter what, you burn carbs (carbohydrates). C6H1206, or something equivalent, mixed with O2 you breathe, that makes 6 C02 (what you exhale) + 6 H2O (what you sweat, plus part of what you exhale), and that gives you energy in the process, or you wouldn't be able to sustain an effort.
When you eat, besides vitamins, fibres, and stuff like that, you basically get proteins, lipids and glucides.
Proteins are essentially used to build muscles, or rebuild muscles. Endurance efforts harm your muscles, so you need protein to keep them in shape.
Lipids are like glucides, but "slower". You can't use them as abundantly, and it takes more energy to burn them (I think ?).
Glucides : see above, that's the basic fuel for a sportsman (should I write any living animal ?).
A human body stores glycogen (glucides) mainly in three different places : blood, muscles, liver. Fat is stored here and there, just look at yourself people.
When your blood glycogen falls down : you faint / feel weak. When you start an effort, you'll start using your muscles glycogen as a replacement for the blood one, and soon after, the liver will deliver (pun non intended) its glycogen and help maintain your glycaemia at a proper rate. When you're out of glycogen you use fat (or you faint ). Of course you rarely use 100 % glycogen or 100 % fat at one moment, it's a ratio between both.
As an indication, you burn the more fat when your heartbeat is about 15 bpm below your breathing threshold.
If you store glycogen but don't use it, it'll turn into fat.
Clearly : eating nothing at all, besides being mentally impossible, means you're soon going to be "out of fuel". Reducing what you eat and doing long efforts will make you burn what's available : glycogen and fat. Burning fat will make you lighter (and help you climbing if your sport implies climbing). Destroying your muscles will make you lighter, but lose power.
Destroying only glycogen won't help much (one hour training rides don't help much) when it comes to losing fat.
Training on an empty stomach helps though. As your glycaemia rate will be lower from the start, you'll start using your muscles' and liver one sooner, and fat as well.
Training also has a huge influence on your ability to store glycogen, by the way.
This is all very schematic and vulgarised, of course. Any one might feel free to correct or add details.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 11-06-2012 22:06
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 11-06-2012 22:08
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kumazan wrote:
My apologies. Was checking up on my threads and didn't check the last page, so just heard the news. And heard nothing of a back injury. Sorry.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 11-06-2012 22:11
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baseballlover312 wrote:
My apologies. Was checking up on my threads and didn't check the last page, so just heard the news. And heard nothing of a back injury. Sorry.
No worries, but next time take it easy and look up for the info before anger makes you implode.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 11-06-2012 22:12
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kumazan wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
My apologies. Was checking up on my threads and didn't check the last page, so just heard the news. And heard nothing of a back injury. Sorry.
No worries, but next time take it easy and look up for the info before anger makes you implode.
Yeah, watch out for him, he's a known imploder
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 11-06-2012 22:22
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Ian Butler wrote:
kumazan wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
My apologies. Was checking up on my threads and didn't check the last page, so just heard the news. And heard nothing of a back injury. Sorry.
No worries, but next time take it easy and look up for the info before anger makes you implode.
Yeah, watch out for him, he's a known imploder
(kidding )
I am on practical probation right now . Still, I'm pissed. This back injury was said to be minor and Horner still thought he'd be ready for the Tour. Yet, it's interesting Maertens said it would be impossible for him to ride the Tour. It's not like he's a leader, so...
My last comment on the topic
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| Vien |
Posted on 11-06-2012 22:24
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@Aquarius: Thanks for giving me a reason to go to bed.
Will attempt to understand it tomorrow morning.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 12-06-2012 03:49
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Dunno if its been said, but Lance may be coming back!
https://velonews.c...man_211554
He says that he wants to ride a GT; the Vuelta in prep for the Ironman Champs in October....
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 12-06-2012 03:54
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valverde321 wrote:
Dunno if its been said, but Lance may be coming back!
https://velonews.c...man_211554
He says that he wants to ride a GT; the Vuelta in prep for the Ironman Champs in October....
This would absolutely make my day... wish it was TDF instead though... another win wouldn't hurt
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 12-06-2012 03:54
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jseadog1 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Dunno if its been said, but Lance may be coming back!
https://velonews.c...man_211554
He says that he wants to ride a GT; the Vuelta in prep for the Ironman Champs in October....
This would absolutely make my day... wish it was TDF instead though... another win wouldn't hurt
 Sorry it's my inner American. Go Lance!
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