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Giro d'Italia 2012 - Week 2
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 14-05-2012 21:43
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Gustavovskiy wrote:
fickman wrote:
Great video Alakagom. Hopinng Henao or Uran will be wearing the white jersey at the end of the day. Is there someone in sky who can climb besides Henao and Uran?
Cav
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Kennaugh
Stannard
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Thomas
I guess your answer is a steel-plated "No" 
Well ( ), Flecha can do reasonably well and will be there to get water bottles to the Colombians. Thomas is usually quite good ( 30th Overall at Tour ) but with the track training, he is useless now  Same with Kennaugh, a future's great climber in the peleton, but he did so much track with no training on mountains, he sucks
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 14-05-2012 21:55
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Gustavovskiy wrote:
fickman wrote:
Great video Alakagom. Hopinng Henao or Uran will be wearing the white jersey at the end of the day. Is there someone in sky who can climb besides Henao and Uran?
Cav
Eisel
Flecha
Kennaugh
Stannard
Hunt
Thomas
I guess your answer is a steel-plated "No"
Kenaugh is a great climber but has been firmly focussed on the team pursuit at the moment so hasn't really done much climbing practise same for Thomas expect he is probally not as good as Kennaugh anyway.
EDIT: Damn Alakagom at least i got Haddou 
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| fickman |
Posted on 14-05-2012 21:59
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Do u think Uran and Henao are going to work together or must Henao work for Uran? |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 14-05-2012 22:00
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jt1109 wrote:
Gustavovskiy wrote:
fickman wrote:
Great video Alakagom. Hopinng Henao or Uran will be wearing the white jersey at the end of the day. Is there someone in sky who can climb besides Henao and Uran?
Cav
Eisel
Flecha
Kennaugh
Stannard
Hunt
Thomas
I guess your answer is a steel-plated "No"
Kenaugh is a great climber but has been firmly focussed on the team pursuit at the moment so hasn't really done much climbing practise same for Thomas expect he is probally not as good as Kennaugh anyway.
EDIT: Damn Alakagom at least i got Haddou
Haha, indeed you did  When it comes to evaluating Sky riders, I am usually pretty fast
fickman I'd say the one that feels stronger on Cervina will become a leader and will have to help the other one. Now I'd say that person will be Henao, to me Uran is suffering a bit from that fall at FW and Henao looks much more comfortable on the climbs so far.
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| fickman |
Posted on 14-05-2012 22:24
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Thnxs Alakagom "The Sky Expert" |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 14-05-2012 22:29
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at least Pozzato acting like mature person..even he did not have something else to do..then hit Goss..
"It was my fault, I admit that I'm the first to criticize those who risk too much,” he said. “I knew the bend was dangerous, but when the I saw that the road was narrowing I saw Goss in front of me and I was not able to stop.
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 14-05-2012 22:33
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Just wondering, why don't Uran and Henao go to Colombia-Coldeportes, take Quintana and Duque (for sprints) with them and make an all national superteam?
While writing this I figured out that it's about the money, but still, what do you guys think?
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| kumazan |
Posted on 14-05-2012 22:35
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I don't see any reason for them to go to Coldeportes.
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| fickman |
Posted on 14-05-2012 22:43
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One of the Reason is that if they do so they wouldnt be able to take part of Grand Tours. A Super Colombian Team would be: Uran, Henao, Duarte, Serpa, Rubiano, Quintana and Duque for the sprints. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 14-05-2012 22:46
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And that's a reason to go to Coldeportes? How exactly?
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-05-2012 22:53
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Just because theyd all be from one nation, wouldnt make them super.
Team Sky are one of the top teams in the Sport. A World Tour team with a notable budget, and top staff, equipment etc.
Colombia-Coldeportes are a Continental team that can't compete in any way. Management doesnt appear to be great either - the team have been overraced, and dont have much to show for it.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 14-05-2012 23:00
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kumazan wrote:
And that's a reason to go to Coldeportes? How exactly?
Because no one wants to take part in GTs anymore. They all know the Schlecks will crush them. 
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 14-05-2012 23:05
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Ferrari made a bad move earlier. How come no ones bashing Goss for this. What was he doing.? Completely went outside for no reason and payed for it.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 14-05-2012 23:05
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alexkr00 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
And that's a reason to go to Coldeportes? How exactly?
Because no one wants to take part in GTs anymore. They all know the Schlecks would have crushed them. If...
- someone hadn't attacked right before their chain jumped
- they hadn't exaggerated their brotherly love by refusing to attack if their other half wasn't looking bad
- if the road had suited them better
- if the weather wasn't been that bad
- if the organisers hadn't exaggerated the amount of ITT
- if their plan was actually to win (they always follow the plan, and they never do anything wrong, so I guess they fooled us for all that time, their plan has never been to win)
- if that was the TDF, quite frändly who cares about anything else ?
- if ...
Oh well, I'm glad I can't remind any more lousy excuse from the both of them... |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 14-05-2012 23:06
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Ferrari made a bad move earlier. How come no ones bashing Goss for this. What was he doing.? Completely went outside for no reason and payed for it.
He's won a monument last year, that might give him some extra rights ? |
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| Kami |
Posted on 14-05-2012 23:26
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ember wrote:
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Kristoff caused the crash. He 'cut off' Pozzato before the corner (might even had shoulder contact, didn't see it clearly), causing Pozzato to hit Goss.
Any pictures of that? Pozzato himself says this: "I want to say sorry," added Pozzato. "Frankly, though, he [Goss] braked. He tried to be sneaky."
Why wouldn't he mention Kristoff/another rider if they had contact/blocked him?
https://www.cyclin...crash.html
Good stuff from Felline, hopefully he can grab a stage win later on, great talent.
When looking at the replay, i noticed that Kristoff, Pozzato and Goss where more or less next to each other. Pozzato suddenly made a brusque move to the right (to Goss). Don't really think Goss breaking would make Pozzato go to the opposite direction of the corner. Only other person who might have influenced it, was Nizzolo, who was in front of Pozzato.
Atleast, that's what i saw on the replay (you don't see it clearly though).
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| fickman |
Posted on 14-05-2012 23:41
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kumazan wrote:
And that's a reason to go to Coldeportes? How exactly?
My English is not very good. I wanted to say that they are never going to go to Colombia Coldeportes because they have with Sky, Movistar or Androni the chance to race a Grand Tour, with Colombia - Coldeportes they wouldnt have that chance.
SportingNonsense:
Just because theyd all be from one nation, wouldnt make them super.
Team Sky are one of the top teams in the Sport. A World Tour team with a notable budget, and top staff, equipment etc.
Colombia-Coldeportes are a Continental team that can't compete in any way. Management doesnt appear to be great either - the team have been overraced, and dont have much to show for it.
Im not trying to say that they would be the best Team, I wanted to say they would be the Team with the best Colombians. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-05-2012 23:44
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Kami wrote:
ember wrote:
Kami wrote:
Kristoff caused the crash. He 'cut off' Pozzato before the corner (might even had shoulder contact, didn't see it clearly), causing Pozzato to hit Goss.
Any pictures of that? Pozzato himself says this: "I want to say sorry," added Pozzato. "Frankly, though, he [Goss] braked. He tried to be sneaky."
Why wouldn't he mention Kristoff/another rider if they had contact/blocked him?
https://www.cyclin...crash.html
Good stuff from Felline, hopefully he can grab a stage win later on, great talent.
When looking at the replay, i noticed that Kristoff, Pozzato and Goss where more or less next to each other. Pozzato suddenly made a brusque move to the right (to Goss). Don't really think Goss breaking would make Pozzato go to the opposite direction of the corner. Only other person who might have influenced it, was Nizzolo, who was in front of Pozzato.
Atleast, that's what i saw on the replay (you don't see it clearly though).
Its possible that the presence of Kristoff forced Pozzato to take a wider line. But indeed, Pozzato didnt mention anything about it.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 14-05-2012 23:49
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Seriously, Goss was right on his leadout man, then decided to drift away. It's partly his fault for drifting in the first place.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-05-2012 23:59
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Looking at 8:17 on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i25f...i25f5ca3rY
Im not sure that either Kristoff or Pozzato had a very good line through there - too close to the inside of the turn, where you needed to have a wider angle from the right hand side of the road.
You can see how Nizzolo cuts across Pozzato, having been on a better line, and there was never going to be enough space for everyone to get through the turn - stupid route by the organisers. But also, Greenedge/Sky perhaps needed to do a better job at trying to string things out.
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